ASUS Motherboard Ships With Embedded Linux 216
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Michael writes "ASUSTek has introduced the P5E3 Deluxe motherboard, which in addition to using Intel's new X38 Chipset also features a soon-to-be-announced technology by DeviceVM. SplashTop is an instant-on Linux desktop environment that is embedded onto this motherboard. Within seconds of turning on the P5E3 Deluxe motherboard, you can boot into this Linux environment that currently features a Mozilla-based web browser and the Skype VoIP client. Browser and VoIP settings can be saved and there are plans for the device to provide new features and support via updates. At Phoronix is a review of this $360 motherboard embedded with Linux and a web browser."
Gotcha (Score:5, Informative)
Updating the system (Score:5, Informative)
I think this is a shame (to put it mildly). Hopefully the specifications for the update process will be published so that a Linux solution can be produced.
Re:Oh the irony (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Use? (Score:5, Informative)
- I googled "diskless htpc". This looks promising [viitalat.net]. It doesn't have details, though.
- Boot from a linux install on a USB thumb drive.
- Boot from a "Persistent Live USB [ubuntu.com]" (or google for things like "casper" and "casper-rw")
- Netboot (PXE boot), and set up an NFS root [tldp.org] or SMB root (not sure if SMB root has been done before)
- Netboot or boot from USB, and run from a ramdrive root. Then even if network goes down, system still has basic functionality (net being down is more of an issue on a home network and an always-on HTPC)
The other issue is the instant-on behavior. I looked at this a while ago when I was installing a uATX motherboard in my car. I'd say the biggest problem is the time it takes for the BIOS to POST. I timed it at 7 sec. Even when I had my kernel booting in 2 sec. and a GUI loaded in 2 sec. (initng, not loading X, small root partition), the BIOS was taking way too long.I'm waiting for better LinuxBIOS and kexec support.
Re:interesting (Score:5, Informative)
Eventually, it's become more and more obvious that there are people whose sole purpose for BEING on Slashdot is to simply bash Linux even though Slashdot is by its very nature a Linux website. Why they find it enjoyable or interesting or even a worthwhile use of their time is beyond me- I simply don't see why anyone who doesn't use Linux would come to Slashdot, load a Linux article, and mindlessly bash Linux. Why not just play some of Windows games that you like so much, you know?
Re:How much? (Score:3, Informative)
These all-in-one boards are for two types of people. The first type are for overclockers that want all those extra tweaking features found only with these type of boards. The second type is for entry-level PC builders. No serious enthusiast will DARE build one with the idea of actually using these on-board features. Those that do, simply disable them and use their own expansion cards.
So you want to tell me again that I don't know WHAT THE FUCK I'M talking about?! Go on buddy, just try it!
Re:Oh the irony (Score:3, Informative)
However, given that this is almost certainly just a LinuxBIOS-flased motherboard with a mini distro on whatever bytes were left over, I'd say that it should be possible to produce a comparable system on any motherboard that is capable of holding a Flash chip of the necessary size. (This will be a LOT bigger than normal, so you may hit a whole bunch of design limitations.) It should therefore be possible to sell LinuxBIOS + BIOSdistros for any motherboard out there that can handle the chip, as an upgrade.
I support ASUS' experimentation - that's good - but people need to see that it's late in coming and it's more limited than the technology supports. Motherboard companies shouldn't be permitted to move as slow as possible and drag their feet when it creates the delusion that technology is more limited than it really is. The pace needs to be upped a little - just enough to show the consumers that they've been paying top dollar for decade-old components.
Re:LinuxBIOS (Score:1, Informative)
It doesn't seem to be going anywhere.
I can't believe that people don't get it (Score:3, Informative)
This is obviously intended to allow you to quickly make a phone call or look something up on the net. It is not supposed to be a replacement for your entire operating system. If you want to save files, watch DVDs or run your business software then boot your hard drive!
I couldn't count how many times I have booted up my computer just to look up a bus timetable, or the TV guide or just check my mail. And how handy would it be to be able to quickly look at the slashdot headlines while your wife goes back to try on another outfit before you head out.
If the boot time can be believed, you could go from off to reading the /. front page in around 20 seconds. How cool is that?
And I want to set up a temporary Internet cafe at conferences. This would be an ideal, non-hackable environment.
Re:And before you ask... (Score:3, Informative)
Slashdotted or vaporware?
Re:Use? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:interesting (Score:2, Informative)
Website is viewable (Score:1, Informative)
You can already do that with a boot CD.... (Score:3, Informative)
The only advantage of having Linux in flash is that it boots in five seconds.