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Pirate Banned From Using Linux 698

dsinc writes "A guy who uploaded the latest Star Wars movie got arrested, pleaded guilty to 'conspiracy to commit copyright infringement' and 'criminal copyright infringement' and got jail and home confinement. As part of his home confinement, he agreed to install some tracking software on his computer. The problem is He's an Ubuntu Linux user and the gov't doesn't have any tracking software for Linux. So he's been told that he must use Windows for the term of his confinement. Looks like a case of cruel and unusual punishment to me"
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Pirate Banned From Using Linux

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  • by everphilski ( 877346 ) on Thursday August 23, 2007 @05:46PM (#20336221) Journal
    Not just pirating, but releasing it before the theaters did. That's a key bit of information you and the summary missed out on. And he admits complete guilt. Game over, man.
  • by Bastardchyld ( 889185 ) on Thursday August 23, 2007 @05:58PM (#20336345) Homepage Journal
    Actually he has not completed his sentence. His sentence was 5 months jail time and 5 months probation...

    These terms are hardly arbitrary... He committed a crime with his computer and now he is going to have his computer activities monitored. This is the same as having ignition interlocks on automobiles in response to a DUI. When you are a "ward of the state" which you are while you are under probation, you do not have freedom, at that point you have actually had your freedom revoked. Probation is a tool for measuring your ability to fit back into society...

    By the way, they did not "mandate" he use Windows, they simply said that his internet access must be monitored... Currently they only have the monitoring software for Windows, so therefore if he wants internet access he must suck it up and buy windows if he does not already have it... He has a choice, buy Windows or wait 5 months and use whatever he wants.

    No pity here.
  • by msblack ( 191749 ) on Thursday August 23, 2007 @06:10PM (#20336529)
    644bd346996 writes:

    Forcing somebody to pay money to a third party (ie somebody completely unaffiliated with the victim of the crime) sure seems like an unusual punishment to me. It also seems unjustified (unless you count "government laziness" as adequate justification).

    I think (and I expect most libertarians would agree) that the government should never have the power to force a citizen to do business with any corporation, especially when that corporation is an unregulated abusive monopoly.
    Defendant isn't being FORCED to PERFORM any activity. If defendant wishes to purchase a product, that is voluntary. As a condition of parole defendant is barred from ENGAGING in CERTAIN activity--the use of Linux software. Where did parent get the idea I said anything about unusual? My post asked for an explanation as to how this punishment meets the 8th Amendment definition of cruel.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23, 2007 @06:35PM (#20336871)
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23, 2007 @06:36PM (#20336879)
    Cygwin is great stuff. When I'm forced to use Windoze, I have a single maximized Xterm window that runs GNU Screen. If you autohide the taskbar, it's almost like being on a real Unix box, except for the occasional popup about Windows Update needing to run or whatever.
    There is some software that doesn't compile cleanly, and it's definitely slower than native Unix, but at least it makes life bearable.
    Heck you can even run sshd under Cygwin, and shell into that box if you have to.
  • Re:Why... (Score:2, Informative)

    by realthing02 ( 1084767 ) on Thursday August 23, 2007 @06:46PM (#20336999)
    I'm replying to this one, but i mean to reply to all the idiots here. I know you actually read a summary for once, but the punishment is not using windows. That was a clever, incredibly biased remark by the submitter/editor.

    He can only use windows because part of his probation is to be monitored. If he doesn't personally purchase/install his own windows, then he simply cannot use the internet/computer. As for "I'll do this once they leave" ideas... are you guys really that dumb? I'm sorry, but you don't think that they would monitor his usage? If nothing is being monitored, you've got two options:

    1. he's not using the internet.
    2. he's subverted the monitoring.

    A pirate uploading material is probably damn well used to the internet, and will probably use it because it's hard not to use it once you have.

    MAYBE if he used windows for some time, and then used Linux... maybe he could get away with it by showing legitimate monitored windows usage. But then he's still using windows which is apparently like pulling teeth.

    Lastly, if it was you, would you risk going back to prison for 5 months just to use Linux over windows? Or maybe i should ask that question here...

    They aren't forcing him to do anything, they are telling him if he wants to do something, he has to do it a certain way.
  • Parole violation (Score:4, Informative)

    by droopycom ( 470921 ) on Thursday August 23, 2007 @07:07PM (#20337253)
    All of which would probably be considered a violation of his parole.

    Ie: You are not allowed to use a computer if we cant see what you are doing with it.

    The point is not that he cannot do it. The point is he is not allowed to do it. He is probably not allowed to get a linux shell somewhere else either.

    When the parole officer inspect his computer and see his VMware installation with a linux VM, they would probably put him back in jail.

    But hey it could be worse, they could forbid him to use any computer. He probably should anyway, and try something else.
  • A better solution (Score:5, Informative)

    by heretic108 ( 454817 ) on Thursday August 23, 2007 @07:16PM (#20337361)
    The Windows cracking community often creates thin shims that convincingly emulate the Windows runtime environment and change its behaviour. For example, a relatively little-known framework called 'VXmon'. This is the basis of a lot of the 'loader' style cracks, that mess with API calls and responses, to fool a shareware program into thinking the trial period lasts forever, or disabling nag screens and other trialware behaviour.

    It shouldn't be too hard to put together a 'loader' for this monitoring program to make it turn a blind eye to certain classes of network access. That is, if such a loader hasn't already been written. But if not, that'd be a good assignment for the various 1337 cR4ck1ng Cr3\/\/z out there.

    Of course, the shim would need to heavily disguise its own existence. If the guy got caught using it, he'd better order a healthy supply of KY Gel ready for a holiday in Club Fed.
  • by Entropius ( 188861 ) on Thursday August 23, 2007 @07:17PM (#20337383)
    Some laws are grounded in reality while others are just on the books... If they are on the books they should be enforced.

    This is where I lose you. You think that the Alabama police should be arresting people for sodomy or (until a few years ago) marrying someone of a different race?

    There are many checks on dumb laws. The first is the intelligence of legislators. Since that often fails, we have other checks: the people can just not obey them, and if they don't, the police can choose to not enforce them, the judges can choose to not sentence for them... you might have heard of the Scopes trials?

    This power, to selectively enforce the law, is used more often than you might think.
  • by Minwee ( 522556 ) <dcr@neverwhen.org> on Thursday August 23, 2007 @07:18PM (#20337393) Homepage

    They can make it a term of my probation to run Windows, so unless I buy a brand new computer I'm not going to use a computer at all!

    There. I fixed that for you.

    The same law really does apply to people who use Macintoshes, no matter what you may think.

  • by carl0ski ( 838038 ) on Thursday August 23, 2007 @07:40PM (#20337647) Journal
    You don't even need that
    Windows Services for Unix 3.5 is free to Windows XP and 2003 users.
    Included by default in 2003 Server R2 and all Vista editions.

    WSU allows a windows machine to run perl, bash and ruby programs much the same way as
    Cygwin.
    WSU supports native mounting unix NFS shares also
    http://www.osnews.com/story.php/5751/Review-of-Win dows-Services-for-UNIX-3.5/ [osnews.com]

    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx? FamilyID=896c9688-601b-44f1-81a4-02878ff11778&Disp layLang=en
  • Re:Why... (Score:3, Informative)

    by sepluv ( 641107 ) <<moc.liamg> <ta> <yelsekalb>> on Thursday August 23, 2007 @08:12PM (#20337947)

    She still hates the fact that she didn't burn them

    But that would be "pirating" the CDs...aaaarrhh...and she could go to jail. Whereas, what was done to her was only theft of CDs, a far less serious crime (as it falls into the class of crimes with human--not corporate--victims) that the police would doubtless not even bother to record.

    Umm...actually I meant to write something funny...uhh...nevermind

  • by demi ( 17616 ) * on Thursday August 23, 2007 @08:13PM (#20337975) Homepage Journal

    Even so, when the state drunk drivers attend AA, they don't force them to go to a gay and lesbian AA clubhouse. That is a better analogy.

    Actually, that's often exactly what they do (never mind the gay/lesbian specific), it's not like you get to pick any alcohol or drug treatment program you like--there's a limited list of diversions. Now, usually you agree to a diversion to avoid a sentence like a fine or jail term; but try, for example, to find a non-smoking AA group (if that's important to you). I'd say your analogy is apt but rather undermines your point.

  • by Technician ( 215283 ) on Thursday August 23, 2007 @09:16PM (#20338581)
    He could probably get away with VMWare or the like running Linux under Windows, but that would just run the risk of landing him in jail.

    A live CD also works wonders, but without the hard evidence of virtualization. Again, if they had a way to monitor his traffic from the upstream, it would be bad. If they rely on the monitoring software as the only monitor, than use a live CD for checking e-mail and other places where you don't want to compromise your online passwords. Monitoring online activity is one thing. Harvesting his login info for his online accounts is another. That over-reaches monitoring online activity and opens doors to stuff beyond the current monitoring.

    I I had mandatory online monitoring, I would not log in to any online account. I would not accidentally give that info to them.

  • by mortonda ( 5175 ) on Thursday August 23, 2007 @11:08PM (#20339505)

    That's no fix, that's a hack job. I meant what I said and trying to be "cool" by putting words in my mouth is no way to make a point.


    You must be new here. "Fixed it for you" is a common /. joke similar to "you mispelled ...." in which someone "hacks up" (to use your terminology) a statement - usually in a funny way, but often making a point. It's almost satire. Ok, maybe that's a stretch.

    For example, you could reply to this post with:

    in which someone "hacks up" (to use your terminology) a statement - usually in a not so funny way
    Fixed it for ya....
    ;)
  • by KlaymenDK ( 713149 ) on Friday August 24, 2007 @04:31AM (#20341123) Journal
    If one is considering a live CD in a situation such as this then let me suggest Polippix, which is a live CD which uses TOR by default and offers encrypted VOIP and other privacy-protecting goodies.

    Main site (in Danish):
    http://www.prosa.dk/om_prosa/polippix.shtml [prosa.dk]

    Review (in English):
    http://www.madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=7822 [madpenguin.org]
  • by GeneJoker ( 549689 ) on Friday August 24, 2007 @06:11AM (#20341581)

    They can tell me to run Windows all they want, unless they buy me a brand new computer it ain't happening!

    Your above statement is inaccurate. They will not buy you a new computer, they will inform you that, if you wish to access the internet, it must be through a pc running their software. The specifics are now their problem, it is up to you to comply. If you insist upon using a pc which is not compatible (i.e. a non-windows box) you will not be allowed access the internet, under penalty of fines and/or imprisonment. I will now for humorous effect craft a sentence similar to yours but altered to represent a more realistic take on the situation.

    They can make it a term of my probation to run Windows, so unless I buy a brand new computer I'm not going to use a computer at all!

    Since this is like your statement, but true, I declare this to be the "repaired" or "fixed" version of your statement! Haha!

    "Fixed" for the humour/common sense impaired.

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