Ubuntu Feisty Fawn Released

Lots of readers told us about the official release of Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn (screenshots here for Ubuntu and Kubuntu). Some readers report that the distribution servers are being hammered. Here is a review of Feisty Fawn. Reader LinuxScribe sends us to LinuxPlanet for the story on a pleasant Java surprise in the release.

Fast mirror at Indiana University

[cow ninja]

Here is a quick mirror: (ftp also works) [indiana.edu]http://ftp.ussg.indiana.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/ 7.04/ [indiana.edu] maintained by http://www.ussg.iu.edu [iu.edu]

Go ahead, take our bandwidth :)

torrents

[Anonymous Coward]

Don't bother with the official sites - I think they must be running Ubuntu Sluggish Slug Server Edition! Kidding aside, there are a myriad of torrent options.

Re:Fast mirror at Indiana University

[didde]

Let's not forget The Pirate Bay, people. They've had this up since 03:00 UTC.

The .torrent [thepiratebay.org] is available here.

Upgrade from 6.10

[raffe]

I have just update my 6.10 vmware image running on my win xp to 7.04. Runs great. If you want to try to upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 open a terminal and enter
gksu "update-manager -c -d" and follow instructions. As always, back up your computer fist. :-D

Re:Fast mirror at Indiana University

[Zonk (troll)]

Thanks for the info. The Swedish mirrors also appear to be working decently.

http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ [ubuntu.com]

Also, here are the torrents:

http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-altern ate-amd64.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com]
http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-altern ate-i386.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com]
http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-deskto p-amd64.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com]
http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-deskto p-i386.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com]
http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-server -amd64.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com]
http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-server -i386.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com]
http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-server -sparc.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com]

No PPC releases at the moment, though.

Re:Plesant Java Surprise?

[Kirth]

They bundled it. Except on 64bit machines, where it still does not work correctly and still does not have a browser plugin; because the bug-report for this is only two years old.

Re:Finally!

[StonedRat]

It's already been announced as Gutsy Gibbon.

Re:torrents

[0100010001010011]

And those torrent options are....

ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com]
ubuntu-7.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com]
ubuntu-7.04-server-i386.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com]
ubuntu-7.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com]

Re:Gentoo has failed me too many times

[ericrost]

Hmm.. google impaired:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesys temHowto [ubuntu.com]
http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/net/libnss-ldap [ubuntu.com]
http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/admin/libpam-lda p [ubuntu.com]
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba [ubuntu.com]

System Requirements?

[2008]

Based on the review this is worth upgrading to - but what are the system requirements like? 6.06 is just usable on my 196 meg RAM laptop, will this push it over the edge?

Incidentally, how come SAMBA isn't included by default? This bit me recently when trying to move files between 2 networked (but not on the internet) computers.

Re:Oh goody.

[Anonymous Coward]

But netbeans is still poo.

Re:System Requirements?

[SomeGuyTyping]

on SAMBA, just begin to set up a share and synaptic will download and install the SAMBA components.

Re:Fast mirror at Indiana University

[ender-]

Get those torrents going folks :)

They haven't finished downloading yet but I've got bittorrent going on a 10Mbit connection for the following two disks [torrent links from the mirror posted above]:

Ubuntu Desktop i386 [indiana.edu]
Ubuntu Desktop amd64 [indiana.edu]

I'll leave them running for a day or two once they're finished downloading.

Official mailing list announcement

[balster neb]

The release was officially announced on the mailing list moments ago. Here is the link:

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/ 2007-April/000102.html [ubuntu.com]

Re:Fast mirror at Indiana University

[mattnuzum]

Try the homepage now. We've simplified things and will update the mirror list frequently until the excitement dies down.

Please note that if you use Ubuntu now, you can update very easily, but don't use dist-upgrade. Instead:

Before you start

        * You can only directly upgrade to Ubuntu 7.04 ("Feisty Fawn") from Ubuntu 6.10 ("Edgy Eft") (see UpgradeNotes)
        * Be sure that you have all updates applied to Ubuntu 6.10 before you upgrade
        * The latest version of Update Manager (0.45.2) must be installed before you upgrade. Otherwise, you will receive an Authentication failed error. See [WWW] here for instructions how to check if you have the required version.

Note: If you have a version of Ubuntu which was released before Ubuntu 6.10, please see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/UpgradeFromOld Version [ubuntu.com] for information on how to upgrade.

Network upgrade for Ubuntu desktops (recommended)

You can easily upgrade over the network with the following procedure.

      1. Open System -> Administration -> Update Manager
      2. A button on the top of the window will appear, informing you of the availability of the new release
      3. Click Upgrade
      4. Follow the on-screen instructions

Re:Fast mirror at Indiana University

[teh loon]

Torrents are the way to go. A few hours ago I couldn't find the ISOs on most mirrors except for the ones that I downloaded slowly from, so I opted for the torrent option. Managed to download the ISO in an hour through DHT - the ubuntu tracker wasn't accepting the torrent then.

Now I'm installing it as I speak, and it's nearly done.

Re:Gentoo has failed me too many times

[Anivair]

I think it is. Linux geeks have a powerful love for Ubuntu (I know, being one myself). Personally, i think ubuntu is the best shot Linux has at the desktop market in any way. It's easier to set up and run that any windows and doesn't lack any features. As long as you're willing to actually USE the internet and look for answers to your questions, you're in luck. And to be fair, technical support in ubuntu (at the publuc forums) is vastly superior to windows tech support (I admin both OS's and linux is easier to get help with by far). So there's a reason for the ubuntu love, certainly. But with Vista just out, any new linux dostro story is bound to spark flames.

Re:Fast mirror at Indiana University

[therevan]

Thanks for posting those mirror links. For the KDE and educational users out there, here are the links to Indiana University's mirrors for the Feisty versions of:

• Kubuntu [indiana.edu]
• Edubuntu [indiana.edu]

Xubuntu (the Xfce variant for low-end machines) is up on Ubuntu's official image servers:

• Xubuntu [ubuntu.com]

Re:Upgrade from 6.10

[bytor4232]

To properly upgrade 6.10 to 7.04 simply go to System - Administration - Update Manager. The button just appeared on my update-manager informing me of a new release.

Re:Fast mirror at Indiana University

[Syzar]

Links for Kubuntu torrents:

http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/feisty/kubuntu- 7.04-alternate-amd64.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com]
http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/feisty/kubuntu- 7.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com]
http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/feisty/kubuntu- 7.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com]
http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/feisty/kubuntu- 7.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com]

Re:Fast mirror at Indiana University

[nadamsieee]

The upgrade instructions [blogspot.com] on the Only Ubuntu Linux [blogspot.com] blog seem pretty good. But I haven't had a chance to try them myself yet. :)

Re:Dual-boot

[staticsage]

If you download the Alternate Install CD, you can choose where to install grub. Install it to a floppy or usb drive and you can use that file with the windows boot loader. This way if you want to remove the Ubuntu partitions in the future you won't have to worry about fixing the boot loader. It's been a while since I've done this, but this looks about right: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56723 [ubuntuforums.org]

Re:System Requirements?

[bhsx]

I've not tried 7.04 yet, but I have Xubuntu (the XFCE version) running just dandy on a 200MHz, 96MB RAM Toshiba Satellite 4010CDS. It does take a bit(39-60 seconds) to launch some apps, OO.o and Firefox specifically; but once launched they work just fine. Installation could have been smoother, but again, this is some pretty old hardware. I use it as a second web terminal on the coffee table when someone (wife, step-daughter) is on the main PC. If I were you I'd wait for the Feisty version of Xubuntu.

Re:Fast mirror at Indiana University

[niteice]

Technically speaking, it's just the package updater (like Windows Update but less evil), which also is capable of updating the entire distro.

You must really like pain.

[Kadin2048]

The only problem I can forsee is setting up MythTV to work with my Radeon AIW. Either way it should make for a fun weekend project!

If by "fun weekend project," you mean "experience that will make you curse computers, question your own sanity, and shake your fist at God for not having struck you down with a well-placed lightning bolt before you set forth on this foolhardy endeavor," then yeah, sure, it might be a fun weekend project.

But seriously, if you want MythTV to work, and work well, get hardware that's well supported. Hauppauge PVR-x50 MPEG-2 encoder cards and Bt848 framebuffer cards [1] are your friends; all others your enemy. Low-end NVidia cards with S-Video out are also probably the best way to avoid wanting to kick the computer.

Unless you put a very, very low value on your time, the cost of the hardware will be insignificant compared to the effort involved in getting poorly-supported gear working with MythTV. I've been down that road. Six weeks worth of work later, I just tossed it all into the parts bin and went out and bought a PVR-150, a Streamzap, and a cheap eVGA NVidia card with S-Video out that was listed as being on the "A" list for Knoppmyth compatibility. With that, it was a weekend project.

[1] The HDHomeRun is pretty slick, too, if you want HD. It's the most painless way to get dual HD tuners.

Re:What's new?

[ror]

You can just "upgrade" by changing a word in a config file somewhere, there's no reinstallation involved; You'll just be bumped with a few programs to download and you're done, there's little reason *not* to.

Disable USB-Legacy-Support

[Anonymous Coward]

Try disabling USB-Legacy Support (boot from USB, etc.)- worked wonders for me, seems to be a BIOS bug on some boards.

Re:Java is not YET Free software

[crush]

So far all the ATI cards upto and including the r300 chipsets, the nvidia cards now supported by the nouveau project (which is very recent) include up to the geforce 8800 (IIRC). You can see the details at free3d.org [free3d.org]

The latest Intel G965 chipsets also include an integrated video chip GMA X3000 which is apparently beefy enough to do stuff like Compiz/Bery, Tuxracer just fine.

anything that forces hardware vendors to support Linux on more desktops is more likely to lead to more adequate drivers. That's verifiably an unsupported idea. The Linux-only market is a tiny fraction of the Windows market and its a waste of ATI/Nvidia's time to put enough engineers on it. That's why their proprietary drivers suck and why the nouveau guys were irritated enough to start trying to write one themselves. Ubuntu is relieving any pressure there might be on these manufacturers and thus actually penalising manufacturers like Intel who have taken the risk of opening up their specs completely [intellinuxgraphics.com].

Re:Fast mirror at Indiana University

[bill_kress]

Yes, very close.

I've dipped into Linux many times (Since before CDs) but this is the first time I've installed it on all my computers.

Yesterday, in fact, I got windows XP running within Ubuntu (My current project requires it) and it was easy, free and very slick. This means I can convert my last remaining dual-boot computers (because of games, mostly) over to Linux.

I still run into things here and there that SHOULD just take 5 minutes but end up taking 2 hours of research, but much less often than with any other distro--and I haven't figured out how to get dual monitors working yet. Oh, and suspend/resume still doesn't work on any of the 3 laptops (I got my wife a MAC and the fact that suspend/resume always works, and does so quickly and smoothly makes me so jealous!)

Every install worked flawlessly in each laptop. CD's, floppies and USB drives are automatically mounted, all resolutions are available on the screens (even wide-screens), and even my wireless internal lan adapter just worked out of the box.

With the addition of Click And Go (I hope it's in this release) it'll be MUCH easier to acquire and install new software than it is in Windows.

If you are considering installing Linux for the first time, I advise you scan this page first--I use it all the time now. It gives you a great summary of what can be done and how to do it. Most "Tasks" are simply a few entries on the CLI now--and most installs can be done from a decent GUI as well (the guide uses CLI because it's easier to describe) http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy [ubuntuguide.org]

Oh, and hey--one complaint (more of an observation actually), for those of you who complain about how often you must enter the root password on a PC, take a look at that page and see how often "SUDO" (the Linux equivalent) is required. Holy cow, it's like every single time you want to call apt-get (in other words, any time you want to install ANYTHING), you have to give up the root password. I believe this means that all install scripts are running as root--I don't know if this is a security hole, but it sure sounds like one. This is the exact equivalent to every windows program install requiring administrator access--something they have at least recognized as a flaw and begun to combat.

But at any rate--seriously, it's now mainstream. Stick it on your grandma's computer. This from a Very Picky user.

Re:Fast mirror at Indiana University

[SuperQ]

Some do! The mirror at umn.edu has iso downloads disabled, and a torrent is up and seeding at 75mbit. :)

MAGNET URI Torrent address

[Danathar]

Don't people understand that when you put the .torrent file on the same server as the iso's if one is being hammered the other get's killed too.

So....your mirrors are breaking. Yea! Bittorrent saves the day! Lets put the torrent file on the SAME SERVER that's currently melting down. That will fix it. :(

So your torrent servers don't get killed post the Magnet URI so that people can join the torrent independent of the accessibility of the .torrent file.

Here is the Ubuntu 7.04 i386 desktop

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:DMDDBZV4X4NWSEHVEBBZHSMFY4GHDK XV

Note Slashdot has a problem with Magnet URI's there is NO space between the last K and XV

Re:Upgrade from 6.10

[Knuckles]

-c is only needed if you upgrade from 6.06 LTS (Dapper) to 6.10 (Edgy), since by default, LTS releases will only upgrade to the next LTS release.
-d is wrong since it is there to force an upgrade to a development version, which 7.04 (Feisty) isn't anymore.

To do an upgrade correctly, follow the instructions here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading [ubuntu.com]

Re:Plesant Java Surprise?

[Victor Antolini]

They didn't bundle it. RTFM.
You must "apt-get install" it

Re:What's new?

[Anonymous Coward]

The improved wireless support comes from network-manager not avahi, avahi is a service for automatically discovering network services on your local network.

Tomboy and f-spot at least, were included in Ubuntu 6.10.

There are *lots* of small incremental improvements in Ubuntu, that's the benefit of 6 month release plan. Some of them are detailed here: http://philbull.livejournal.com/34930.html [livejournal.com] There are also a list of improvements from Gnome 2.18 here: http://www.gnome.org/start/2.18/notes/en/ [gnome.org]

I imagine the new kernel release adds support for new hardware and things too.

Re:Fast mirror at Indiana University

[cow ninja]

No, it's the final. Check the Ubuntu site again.

Re:Automatix?

[Knuckles]

Especially, note that 6.06 cannot be directly upgraded to 7.04, you need to go to 6.10 first*. You might be quicker doing a backup and reinstalling.

* At least with the (recommended) automatic tool. If you know what you are doing, you can likely upgrade directly with the manual tools. You will need some knowledge though. (aptitude dist-upgrade, dpkg --force-things, and apt-get -f install are your friends. It won't be pretty)

Xubuntu torrents:

[Anonymous Coward]

http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/7.04/re lease/xubuntu-7.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com] - Desktop CD for 64-bit PC (AMD64) computers
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/7.04/re lease/xubuntu-7.04-alternate-amd64.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com] - Alternate install CD for 64-bit PC (AMD64) computers
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/7.04/re lease/xubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com] - Desktop CD for PC (Intel x86) computers
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/7.04/re lease/xubuntu-7.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com] - Alternate install CD for PC (Intel x86) computers

Re:Fast mirror at Indiana University

[disasm]

It's an issue of space. The live cd doesn't contain the actual packages, it actually installs the system thats on the live cd. To include package files, you would need the equivalent of everything on the alternate cd, which is why the alternate cd is required. This is also the reason I prefer to install from the alternate cd. Sam

Re:General Linux Java Question

[LDoggg_]

On windows you're likely running the Sun Java Virtual Machine.
On Linux you may unknowingly be using the free Gnu implemenation of Java (gcj). Install the Sun JVM and try running from that one instead.
In my experience the Sun JVM on Linux is better than the Sun JVM on windows, but the Sun JVM on windows is faster than gcj on Linux.

That said, I applaud the efforts by the gcj guys big time.

Re:Fast mirror at Indiana University

[mhall119]

I understand what you are saying, I wasn't talking about XP style permissions. What I was talking about was Vista's attempt to restrict admin access to only be asserted when required. Suddenly you are getting popups all the time asking for admin access.

This makes sense, however, as does the way you explained sudo. But the problem is that many people who complained about Vista's continual prompting, aren't realizing that typing sudo all the time is the same exact thing.

It's different in the fact that you are only prompted by sudo when the changes you are trying to make will effect the system or other users on the system. Things like installing system-wide software and services should require proof that you have permission to do this. From what I have heard about Vista's prompts (I don't use it), they are used for user-only preferences changes too, or running (not installing, running) user-space applications. The one time I played with someone else's Vista install, I tried to run a pre-installed game and was prompted with the "Cancel or Allow?". That is what makes no sense.

As for the security hole issue. I don't know the way apt-get works, but it seems to me that when it installs something it is executing some kind of a script. That script is most likely running as root. If I'm wrong, or if the scripting language is weak enough that it can't cause a problem, please let me know.

Even if apt is running system shell scripts (an example, I really don't know), how is this insecure? You don't give install permission to people who might install bad software, and let apt check their permissions before installing. Yes, someone with root access can possibly cause security issues, but they don't need apt for that. Bottom line hasn't changed in decades, don't give root access to people you don't trust to have root access.

Also, if this is the case and apt-get is completely safe to run as admin, why not just set it's SUID/SGID flag and be done with it?

Because SUID would let anyone run apt as root, potentially giving anyone on your system root access. Again, don't give root access to people you don't trust.

Not that apt-get is not the ONLY time I type SUDO either, it seems to be that I have to give up admin access a few times a day for some reason or another.

I'm not sure what you're doing to require so much root access, but I'd bet that every time you're asked for your password, you're doing something you wouldn't want your web server (an example, could be any non-root user) doing without your permission. Next time you're prompted for your password, ask yourself if you want to let someone else do that same thing on your box without having to ask you.

If you get in the habit of doing something like this all the time, you might as well be running as admin all the time (At least that was the complaint many people had with Vista)

From my Ubuntu experience, you only run as root when you need to run as root. If you're doing more than system administration and still being prompted by sudo all the time, chances are you need to re-think what you're doing. There is probably a better (read: more secure) way.

Pure FUD!

[HalAtWork]

Um, in Ubuntu you're NOT always admin. There is no way to log in as root in Ubuntu. The first user you create gets sudo priveledges automatically, and the "root" account inherits the password of the first user account you create. From then on, any user you create does not have any escelated priveledges whatsoever. The idea behind this is that you use the first account you created to administer, therefore enforcing the idea that you should never log in as root or run anything unnecessary as root, and then you use your other accounts for normal work/play. The reason behind this is that novices are used to the idea of logging in under a seperate account to admin stuff, and so that other users do not have a method of doing any of this stuff, even accidentally.

Re:Fast mirror at Indiana University

[Chandon Seldon]

The general concept of installing a package on a multi-user system involves running arbitrary third party code as root. This is true on Windows, Mac OS X, every GNU/Linux distro, and every Unix. You're right that this is dangerous from a security perspective - if you can get a user to install something, you've got root on their system. Some packages shouldn't need this, but many actually do - I think that Mac OS X is the only system that provides a built in mechanism to install packages that don't need root access without granting it.

Both Microsoft and Debian/Ubuntu have settled on the same "solution" to this problem: Cryptographically sign install packages. This means that the user has to trust everyone who can sign packages. For Windows, signing packages requires getting a developer signing key that costs a couple thousand dollars. For Debian/Ubuntu, the packages are signed when they are put in the official repositories - so there's a little bit more control since packages are stored centrally.

Either way, you can still install unsigned packages. but that's obviously a risk - you have to figure out if you trust the source enough to run arbitrary code as root on your own.

Re:Fast mirror at Indiana University

[Chandon Seldon]

By default, there is no root password on Ubuntu. If you run the "passwd" command as root, you are setting a password, but there is no old password to replace.

Sorry to nitpick, but I don't want anyone thinking that Ubuntu has a default root password. That would be an ugly security issue.

Re:Pure FUD!

[lahvak]

Um, in Ubuntu you're NOT always admin. There is no way to log in as root in Ubuntu. The first user you create gets sudo priveledges automatically, and the "root" account inherits the password of the first user account you create. From then on, any user you create does not have any escelated priveledges whatsoever.

Ehm, actually, the root account does not inherit any password. You are correct that by default, there is no way to log in as root in ubuntu. The reason for that is that the root account does not have a password, and does not allow password-less login. The first user you create is automatically added to the "sudoers" file, which gives him/her the privilege of using sudo. Sudo grants the user temporary root privileges, so that he/she can perform administrative tasks. Later, you can add more users to the sudoers file by granting them administration privileges (There is a GUI for it somewhere in Ubuntu). They can then perform admin tasks using sudo, with their own password, just like the first user.

With this setup, there really is no reason to use the first account only to administer. The only thing that is special about the first account is that it can temporarily gain administrative privileges using sudo, but for normal operation, it has no special access to the system.

You can also use sudo to set up a password for your root account, and thus make it possible to log in as root, but it is generally a bad idea. If you really need to perform some heavy administration task that requires running a number of commands from a terminal with root privileges, and you don't want to keep typing "sudo" in front of each of them, you can always use sudo to get a root shell. See sudo man page to learn how to do it.

Re:MAGNET URI Torrent address

[The_Wilschon]

Note Slashdot has a problem with Magnet URI's there is NO space between the last K and XV

That's part of the lameness filter. In an effort to prevent screen-widening hacks, long strings of characters with no whitespace get some whitespace inserted in them. You can get around this by enclosing the URI in a URL tag. The URI as displayed will still include the whitespace, but the HREF for the generated link will not. Observe:

<URL:magnet:?xt=urn:btih:DMDDBZV4X4NWSEHVEBBZHSMFY 4GHDKXV>
(without the extra space of course) becomes
magnet:xturnbtihDMDDBZV4X4NWSEHVEBBZHSMFY4GHDKXV [magnet]

Re:Version number to name table?

[Ambidisastrous]

Off the top of my head, it was something like:
Warty Warthog (4.10)
Hoary Hedgehog 5.04
Breezy Badger 5.10
Dapper Drake 6.06
Edgy Eft 6.10
Feisty Fawn 7.04
[Next: Gutsy Gibbon 7.10, though Glossy Gnu was considered]

Release dates are every 6 months, except in the case of Dapper Drake. Version numbers are Y.MM, so you can calculate back from today.

Livecd goodness

[elmartinos]

I am posting this from the same computer on which currently Ubuntu is installing. Beat that, windows!

Re:Automatix?

[[e-mail]]

If you go to http://ubuntuguide.org/ [ubuntuguide.org] you can find a replacement for '/etc/apt/sources.list' which contains sources for all the non-free stuffs you'd want.

Great resource, I have it bookmarked.

David

Re:Plesant Java Surprise?

[geschild]

Lets get the facts right, here. It's not a bug-report, it's an RFE, a Request for Enhancement.

AND IT'S BLOODY FOUR YEARS OLD!!!

See for your self: http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id =4802695 [sun.com]

To add insult to injury, when the status of this 'RFE' only very recently changed (January 16th 2007), IT WAS TARGETED FOR THE NEXT RELEASE. In other words it'll be another 18 months.

And the first person who tells me I should use a 32-bit browser anyway, I'm going to strangle with Java-code.

Excuse me for losing my cool there, I've been waiting for it to magically apear in every point release of V5 and then in Java 6. Even if this is 'non-trivial', Sun should get their collective heads out of their assess and just do it. There's no telling how many people and projects are being held up by this.

If you have a few minutes, please get an account at SDN and vote for this particular RFE. I'd like the vote to go up to about a thousand at least. Perhaps that'll get them out of snooze-mode. :/

Re:Playstation Installer

[Doc Ruby]

The PS3 needs an OpenGL library that either runs on the Cell SPE(s), or calls functions on the RSX. So far, Sony has locked out the RSX, and I doubt they'll let (unlicensed) Linux apps compete with their licensed products by tapping the RSX (which is unique to PS3, and 9x as fast as the Cell). So really what's needed is OpenGL running on SPEs.

Re:Fast mirror at Indiana University

[Knuckles]

There is a root password but it isn't really documented anywhere.

Nononono, how often do we have to dispel this myth! If people like you would do their homework before talking, it would probably already have died. From /etc/passwd:

root:!:13456:0:99999:7:::

From "man shadow":
"If the password field contains some string that is not valid result of crypt(3), for instance ! or *, the user will not be able to use a unix password to log in, subject to pam(7)."

So, effectively, the root account is disabled and no password exists that would let you in. Before writing about sudo and root in Ubuntu again, please read this [ubuntu.com] :)

Re:Java is not YET Free software

[Knuckles]

At present Ubuntu is encouraging people to ignore the problem of video-driver support, to purchase broken crap from nvidia and to penalise Intel by not selecting their boards and integrated cards.

That's so not true [launchpad.net]

Re:Fast mirror at Indiana University

[eric_brissette]

I just finished downloading from that pirate bay torrent. The MD5 sum checks out. (ubuntu feisty fawn desktop i386)

Re:MAGNET URI Torrent address

[Cl1mh4224rd]

<URL:magnet:?xt=urn:btih:DMDDBZV4X4NWSEHVEBBZHSM FY 4GHDKXV>
(without the extra space of course) becomes
magnet:xturnbtihDMDDBZV4X4NWSEHVEBBZHSMFY4GHDKXV [magnet]

Umm... Check your results.

Re:iPods, iTunes and Digital Cameras?

[Knuckles]

iPod: works out of the box
DigiCam: the very vast majority works out of the box (and simpler than Windows, plugging it in opens a management app)
iTunes: complain to Apple and/or help her a bit: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormat s/iTunesMusicStore [ubuntu.com]
Multimedia: 7.04 will prompt you and offer to install support for proprietary codecs. DVD needs a tiny bit of help: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/ [sos-sts.com]