Internet Explorer 7 on Linux 234
An anonymous reader writes to mention WebExpose is running a quick guide to get Internet Explorer 7.0 running on Linux. From the article: "Microsoft conditional comments do work, unlike the standalone version of IE on Windows, so you will be able to develop and test webpages across almost all major browsers (IE 5-7, Firefox, Opera) on one Linux box! Also note that we will avoid Microsoft's Genuine Advantage download validation checks, so pure-Linux users will be able to finish the process without having to find a genuine Windows machine to download the IE7 setup file (the check is avoided legitimately, by the way)."
Alpa PNG in other IEs? (Score:5, Interesting)
This shouldn't be an issue with IE7, but it does make it difficult to test layouts that use alpha PNG and rely on the IE6 workaround.
It's good to know that they've got conditional comments working, though. That's always been the trick with running multiple IEs on Windows. You have to tweak the registry, or else each IE engine will parse them as if it were the most recent one installed on the system.
first download wine (Score:1, Interesting)
WMA voided legally? (Score:2, Interesting)
Well, I guess that is the difference between knowingly voiding the check and stumbling upon the process that voids the WMA check. I wonder which one the lawyers will believe?
You can even get an obvious answer! (Score:5, Interesting)
From the article summary:
If you do your main development on a Linux box, and want to test minor changes in IE as you make them (major changes and final testing should still be done on a native system if possible), it's a lot more convenient to fire up a copy of IE in WINE than to move over to another box or reboot into Windows.
Great question (Score:4, Interesting)
Before you flame me into oblivion, tell me what I miss with IE7 when I already run Windows + Firefox 2.0. I ask in all honesty. Let's just say I have some legit XP machines and I have "friends" with illegitimate XP machines that won't bother with WGA as they know they'll fail. They'll happily go on downloading security updates but don't bother with IE7, Media player 10, etc.
So what.
Their computers run fine and they seem to be able to do everything that everybody else does - play movies, pictures, music, etc, etc
So in this case, what does IE7 get for people over the ones who are forever doomed to Firefox 2.0 and IE6? What are the benefits?
C'mon IE7 supporters, this is a lay-up. Lay it out for me...
Re:Insanity (Score:4, Interesting)
Basically, I use the WINE copy for (pun not intended) sanity checks, and a native copy for serious testing.
Re:You can even get an obvious answer! (Score:5, Interesting)
But, I suppose, if it's just to keep on eye on the site as you go along, fine. So is IE7 really _that_ broken that this is needed? Again not trying to flame, it just boggles the fark out of me that they're still doing that.
Re:Can I ask an obvious question without being fla (Score:1, Interesting)
Tangent: Safari (Score:2, Interesting)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_b
and, no matter which one you believe, Safari seems to have a much larger share of the browser market than Opera. I wouldn't say this is so much offtopic as it is tangential, but do as you will and mod away as you see fit.
1 word from a professional web software developer (Score:4, Interesting)
It's a plug, yes. But they deserve it.
Re:Can I ask an obvious question without being fla (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:I have a much easier way (Score:4, Interesting)
Some *NIX systems have a directory in the root directory, which contains a set of statically linked utilities that can be used for recovery. On FreeBSD, this is /rescue, which contains statically linked copies of many of the things from /sbin and /bin. If something goes wrong with your linker (or you numpty up and accidentally delete it) then these tools can be very important.
Either way, it dosen't matter. When an executable file is run then all of its libraries are opened, incrementing their reference count, so deleting them will not actually delete them on disk until the program runs and thus it is possible to run 'rm -rf /' and delete every file.
,,,and I still cant get IE7 on Win2000 !!! (Score:3, Interesting)
IE7 is on linux even before it is on Win2000.
Actually, they say it will never come out for win 2000.
Now... can I run a windows simulator inside my windows in order to run these programs MS is specifically blocking from win2000? Such as IE7, windows live writer (a blog editing program), windows live messenger, etc.
Bad tools (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:You can even get an obvious answer! (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:1 word from a professional web software develop (Score:2, Interesting)
There are often group purchases on fundable.org [fundable.org], where groups of solo web designers pool their money to purchase a group subscription as if they were a larger company. $40 gets you one year of premium access, and it's not against BrowserCam's TOS, in fact they're aware of the practice and apparently have no problem with it.
There are a few spots left on this group purchase [fundable.org], and if you miss that one, another one is sure to pop up soon.
Re:Bad tools (Score:2, Interesting)
Oh come on, don't overreact. Wine and ies4linux are perfectly adequate for ordinary testing purposes during web design. One the whole thing is finished it'll probably be a good idea to give it a final check on a Windows machine, but even that is perhaps paranoid.