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Fedora Holds Summit To Map Its Future 92

Posted by kdawson
from the hats-in-the-air dept.
lisah writes "Last month members of the Fedora community met for a three-day summit (wiki here) designed to chart a course for future version releases as well as to plan other Fedora projects. Team members say they want to leverage the enthusiasm of a community that has demonstrated a willingness to develop Fedora Extras (add-on features to the Core package) and support Fedora Legacy (past releases). Red Hat's community development manager, Greg DeKoenigsberg, said, 'Community contributors have proven conclusively over the past 18 months that they can build packages every bit as well as Red Hat engineers — better, in some cases.' In addition to creating several proposals that will be introduced the the community for input and feedback, the summit also gave rise to the newly-created position of Fedora Infrastructure Leader." Linux.com and Slashdot are both owned by OSTG.
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Fedora Holds Summit To Map Its Future

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  • First Post! (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 19, 2006 @05:58PM (#17305818)
    Continuing to release a free version is the smartest thing RedHat could do, as it made its foray into the recurring revenue stream provided by enterprise support and maintenance contracts.

    Fedora Linux is actually better than RHEL, because you can patch it easily (RHEL is a pain in the ass to patch), it contains more packages, and its community support (especially academia) is as high as it has ever been.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 19, 2006 @06:13PM (#17306032)
    I tried contributing to Extras this year. I gave up due to the paperwork. Wading through pages and pages of the Website, and following the instructions got me exactly nowhere. No response. No approval. Nothing.

    Only later did I find out that I had to jump through some more hoops.

    What would be helpful is a more streamlined, and MUCH better documented system.

    Given the other packages which conspicously lack Fedora support, I suspect that I'm not alone.

    I do hope this changes, as Fedora is my preferred distro. But right now, it is definitely hurting contributions to the project.
  • by RAMMS+EIN (578166) on Tuesday December 19, 2006 @06:54PM (#17306528) Homepage Journal
    I disagree. Having alternatives is healthy. Not only because of choice, but also because the competition between them provides incentives to improve them, and because if something happens to one, there's always another to fall back on.

    The amount of duplication within the open source world is actually pretty limited, I would say just about enough to provide the benefits I pointed out earlier, and to cater to the many niches there are (e.g. some people want full-featured systems, others want simple ones, yet others want performant ones, etc.)

    ``They already have some coherence, thanks to the Kernel''

    Err, well. The kernel is only a tiny part of the system, and one you don't typically code for directly. The personality of the system is actually much more determined by the standard library of whatever programming language you're using.

    ``Imagine how much more work could be done to a package manager if every distro was using the same.''

    I don't think package managers are or should be so complicated that they'd greatly benefit from everyone hacking the same one. At any rate, the diversity allowed me to choose the vastly superior apt-get when most people were using rpm (I know there are working wrappers for rpm that resolve dependencies nowadays, but back in the day, there weren't). I'm glad about that.

    ``Imagine how good OpenOffice and KOffice could have been if there were not 200 other Open Source alternatives.''

    Again, I'm not sure it matters much. I think adding more developers to OpenOffice.org will only contribute to the bloat, leading to new problems. Koffice seems to make great progress, despite the existence of various competitors (OOo being the big one). AbiWord was a good word processor years ago, before OOo existed, and I can't imagine it's gotten worse since.

    ``I am glad to hear about efforts to unify KDE and Gnome.''

    You mean that they're standardizing mechanisms? I'm glad about that, too. Standards are good. So are alternatives. Both can, and should, exist at the same time.
  • by heroine (1220) on Tuesday December 19, 2006 @10:45PM (#17308572) Homepage
    Redhat disappeared so fast from the map, hardly any of this year's user base has even heard of it, let alone Fedora. Every 4 years the entire user base turns over. Old distributions disappear, everyone learns on a new distribution, and software over 4 years old doesn't work anymore. The hot distribution chronology seems to be:

    1996-1997: Slackware
    1997-1999: Debian
    1999-2001: Redhat
    2001-2002: Fedora
    2003-2004: Suse
    2004-2006: Ubuntu

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