Linux Tablet to be Released in Two Days 385
Rambo writes "Nokia has finally set a November 17th US shipping date for the $359 770 Internet Tablet. It features a Debian-based distribution called Maemo, which includes kernel 2.6, X.org/Scratchbox WM, and GTK for easy porting of applications. Hardware specs are: 800x480 ) screen, 220 MHz TI OMAP ARM processor (with DSP), 64M of RAM, 128M of flash, USB slave port, 802.11b/g wireless, Bluetooth, IR, and a RS-MMC slot. Even more details at LinuxDevices and Internet Tablet Talk. It sports a battery life of 3 hours for continous Wi-Fi usage, and accepts common Nokia phone batteries. Disclaimer: I am not affiliated with Nokia, and am anxiously awaiting my own pre-order!"
this sucks, (Score:1, Insightful)
Which is great... (Score:3, Insightful)
So this seems to me just like another Linux runs on ____________ story. (insert everything including a toaster in the blank)
And the phone? (Score:3, Insightful)
No ogg support?? (Score:2, Insightful)
No ogg support? On a linux platform (which makes is a few steps easier to include it anyway)? Many linux enthousiasts will probably love this device (future mod abilities?), but yet no ogg support?
I have lost of ogg music, and therefore am reluctant to buy even an ipod, so what about it not being put on this device? How hard can it be?
Re:Which is great... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:this sucks, (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:this sucks, (Score:5, Insightful)
I can't be the target market (Score:3, Insightful)
How many people is that exactly?
And its not like you can just use it anywhere. You're either using it on your home network, where it would be a toy not a tool (why wouldn't you use your real computer?) or your using it in an expensive access point, or do they expect you to steal other people's connection?
3 hours battery life?
$400?
I guess this might appeal to PDA people, but don't they have everything that this offers for less, in a smaller package with the same or better battery life?
Re:Which is great... (Score:1, Insightful)
Those specs... (Score:3, Insightful)
Good In Hospitals (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Which is great... (Score:4, Insightful)
I work at a dental office that's trying to go chartless. We use these things in the op for office visit documentation.
My staff didn't want to use them the first week, then growled at me when I needed to take it for maintence ever afterwards.
There are uses for tablets, but they aren't flashy or glamorous.
Re:Bang for the buck (Score:3, Insightful)
the nokia thing is just a toy from my point of view. a quite expensive toy to browse the internet.
the resolution may be great, but the screen is actually tiny so people with less than magnificent sight are going to have trouble with this one.
if it would be capable of using gsm/gprs and give me an usable input method like a keyboard, i would consider it (especially if it could use cheap sd or mini-sd flash memory units, 512mb costs around 35 euros over here... 1gb around 70 euros).
what kind of cpu does this thing have anyway ? is it comparable to the 400mhz/200mhz cpu's used by hp/compaq handhelds ?
Re:What exactly is the difference between a (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Which is great... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:I've got one! (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Good In Hospitals (Score:3, Insightful)
OTOH, this thing is the size of a PSP... I don't think the screen is quite large enough for medical use.
Re:Operating System (Score:2, Insightful)
So Linux conquering the world isn't enough? You need people to KNOW that Linux conquered the world?
Re:I can't be the target market (Score:5, Insightful)
First, I could see myself using one of these at home, the alternative is to lug around the laptop, or cover the house in a bluetooth netork for pdas (unpleasent to surf on anyway) or put a computer in every room! Use it as a remote for mythtv, read email or /. while you eat breakfast and check imdb to settle a bet on what films the actor you are watching is in.
As for where else to use it ... Work. Many free/cheap hotspots abound (e.g. some MacDonalds here would let you online for buying anything). Your friends/business partners may let you onto networks. It has it's own storage so it doesn't need to be online to be useful and finally you could just use your mobile when you have to get online and have no other choice.
3 hours of surfing on 802.11 wireless sounds fine to me! I'd rather not carry around too much weight, and if I had to have longer battery life I suspect I could carry extra batteries. The entire unit probably weighs less then the two batteries I have in my laptop, in fact it's probably about the weight of one.Yes, $400. Look at the prices of mobile phones (not subsidised ones), pda's and laptops. The 800x480 touchscreen alone is worth $100 in my book, any general computer (as opposed to a locked device) another $100, another $100 for low weight, power and small form factor and you can choose to argue the last $100's worth (is the software, or even just supporting the idea of it, worth it or perhaps the 802.11/bluetooth).
Whenever a form factor like this starts to become popular you can expect a rapid price drop as I'm sure the main part of the costs are the attempts to recover the fixed costs and the marginal price is low. At present screen options were probably few and far between for nokia, but if 10cm 800x480 touchscreens (or any size/format/resolution) take hold another manufacturer (of both the screens and devices) will likely appear quickly. Right now there's still a bit of "early adopter" to the price.
Show me a PDA with a comparable screen? It's as simple as that, what size/resolution screen do you want to surf the web with. 800 pixels wide should mean you are using something more akin to a laptop web browser then a pda one and make things much more pleasant.
Re:Those specs... (Score:5, Insightful)
Those low end devices don't come with 802.11 support though. And if they support CF, they suck battery power up the wazoo. I far prefer having this longish battery life.
The SIZE -- physical dimensions, weight, etc -- of N770 are actually quite nice. Much bigger and I'd feel uncomfortable putting it in my pocket. Much smaller and I'd not be able to use it in the can ... ;)
One of the interesting things about OMAP is the integrated DSP. I've been lax, and haven't checked out how my N770 uses it (or if it does) ... but I'm certain that the VOIP codecs
will be using it, even if some of the current audio/video stuff
might not yet use it.
Why would you want SD, anyway? Espcially on hardware where you're shaving every ounce of weight? Nokia doesn't use SD, so far as I can tell, just MMC. It's unrealistic to expect them to change corporate policy just for this product.
As for adding software ... just download the packages from
the web, over the wireless link. No need for SD.
Admittedly a 220-odd MHz ARM isn't blazingly fast. But it's not like it's used for number crunching (that's what DSPs are for!), and this is certainly fine for web browsing at my local coffee shop. Or even at home.
Specs (Score:3, Insightful)
That's also what this tablet tries to do. It's primarily for accessing the web and email. These are applications that just don't need a fast processor or lots of RAM. A better screen is always nice, but this one is acceptable for the intended purpose.
And raising the specs would not just make the thing cost more, it'd destroy the system's battery life. Which is already disappointingly low. I wouldn't buy a web tablet unless it could last through an entire work day without recharging.
Integrated phone. (Score:2, Insightful)
The screen is really good so I think most users with normal eysight can use it without problems.
It uses RS-MMC which is like mini-sd but cheaper and (I think) slower.
Re:Which is great... (Score:3, Insightful)
It looks nice, true, but... (Score:2, Insightful)