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Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" Released 417

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An anonymous reader writes "Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" has been released! Direct links for the US install iso or the US install torrent file." Update: 10/13 18:08 GMT by Z : Linux.com has a look at the release, in-depth.
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Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" Released

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 13, 2005 @07:46AM (#13780736)
    ... or leaked?
    • by ggvaidya (747058) on Thursday October 13, 2005 @07:58AM (#13780816) Homepage Journal
      And it's not just the OS itself ... I've heard from certain "sources" that the source code for the entire operating system can be downloaded from them evil BitTorrent programs!

      Honest monopolists everywhere are cringing in their sleep ... somebody turn on the **AA-signal, quick!
    • by a.different.perspect (817184) on Thursday October 13, 2005 @08:09AM (#13780886) Journal
      I'm using it right now, and apart from a new splash screen that resembles the forums [ubuntuforums.org] theme and the replacement of the GNOME foot with the Ubuntu logo in the top left corner, the most immediately obvious changes to the end user are the features introduced by GNOME 2.12. Namely, the menu editor, disks manager, clipboard daemon, Evince document viewer, drag-and-drop preview, type-ahead-find for Epiphany and GNOME's help browser, and so on. That stupid gedit focus bug is fixed. The switch from OpenOffice 1.1.3 to OpenOffice.org 2.0 (Beta 2) is a substantial one as well; xine 1.1 and AbiWord 1.1, unfortunately, were released too late Breezy's dev cycle and aren't included. Similarly, 5.10 has shipped with GStreamer 0.8, which is still unusable for video, so you'll want to install totem-xine over totem-gstreamer as soon as possible. Under the hood, Ubuntu is now using the 2.6.12 kernel, modular X.org and GCC 4.0.1. Ubuntu has also updated their ATI fglrx drivers to 8.16.20, which gives a significant performance boost (from crap to less crap) for those cursed with ATI cards.
       
      Overall, my end user impressions are that this is a worthy and welcome upgrade to my distribution of choice, but apparently I'm only really scratching the surface. According to the release notes [ubuntu.com], the major features of 5.10 are advanced thin client integration, an OEM installer, the Edubuntu project [edubuntu.org] for deploying Ubuntu in schools, and Launchpad integration ("Launchpad.net is the new infrastructure that Ubuntu and its derivatives use for translation, bug tracking, sharing code patches, fixes and technical support."). So, in short, I like what I'm seeing, but what I haven't seen looks even better.
    • by mwvdlee (775178)
      Cunty Cat?
  • by Your Anus (308149)
    OK. I give. What is so amazing about Ubuntu? Do they compile thier stuff with special options or have some whiz-bang installation program?
    • by shadowknot (853491) * on Thursday October 13, 2005 @07:51AM (#13780772) Journal
      Nothing really special about it when compared to Debian except that it seems to form a more focused and complete desktop installation. I must admit though, whenever I have installed it it's been perfect for use as a desktop machine for just browsing the web/checking email etc. Wouldn't install it for development though. On the subject of the install it's just a (very very) slightly streamlined version of the stock Debian NCURSES installer.
      • by emj (15659) on Thursday October 13, 2005 @08:17AM (#13780935) Homepage Journal
        I would say that ubuntu is perfect for developing, it leaves all the stupid configuring to the people who spend their life doing it and let us ordinary programmers not care about things those insignifaicant things. Since it commesout so often it's very seldom that you don't have an development library that you need, it somehow always seems to make it into the next version at just exatcly the right time.

        Now Ubunutu isn't very good on installing games, if you want to do that go with Gentoo which IMHO actally has the best installation procedures for commercial games (demos).
        • People are much better off with ubuntu for transgaming IMHO. Things just work. That's nice. I futzed around with Gentoo on the desktop for months and even have it on a server. I wont be doing that again. It's always nice when you emerge -u system and networking completely breaks on a production server :/ Of course it was fixed in 10 minutes, but still very uncool.

          Gentoo *can* offer much better performance, however, most people that install Gentoo will never get a system more optimized or even as optimized
          • I run a couple of low cost webservers on gentoo, and its really nice when you get it right. Steep learning curve tho.
            I also use it on my primary desktop and on my work-laptop, and it is a joy compared to many other distros. But im leaning towards trying ubuntu on my laptop now. If gentoo didnt take so much time to get right, it would be easier to just try it.
            If you are willing to spend some extra time working with your system instead of using all your time working on it, gentoo is really nice.
            If you want a
        • I dunno - I use Ubuntu for testing my installer for Oolite-Linux, and it seems pretty trouble free with both the Autopackage installer and home-rolled tarball installer. I don't see anything unusual about Ubuntu that would result in significant breakage.
        • Why not games? (Score:4, Interesting)

          by drgonzo59 (747139) on Thursday October 13, 2005 @11:32AM (#13782442)
          I have been developing, playing games and writing papers on Ubuntu since their first release. It seems to do a nice job with that. All you have to do is to get the backports repository access then you have the access to all the Debian packages that includes many games.

          The obvious question of the grand(grand?)prent post as to why Ubuntu is so great, is not an easy one to explain, I guess one just has to try it. I have used Mandriva, SuSE, Fedora, Gentoo (waited 2 days for it to install!) Lycoris (before it was bought by Mandriva) and finally settled with Ubuntu. I guess things just seemed to work right out of the box or perhaps I like the openess and the message behind Ubuntu, or maybe both...

    • It just works. I've installed Breezy and of all ther Operating Systems I have ever installed it wins by a mile.

      Problems: None

      Boring when things just work.

      • It just works.

        the last release didnt 'just work' on my notebook. keyboard doesnt always work, -it was funny, i typed my username durig setup then i couldnt type the password!- no wifi, oftentimes compressed files are reported as being empty, system slows the longer it is up. perhaps it is becuase i am using the x64 version. anyway, going to give this new release a shot.

      • by jc42 (318812)
        It just works.

        Not here. I have a several-years-old Dell box with an old RH installed, wasn't using it for much, so I decided to try Ubuntu. It seemed to be installing ok (though it's hard to spot error messages when they scroll off the top too fast to read). But when it settled down, all I got was a brownish-green screen with a typical pointer arrowhead in the center. That's all. It doesn't respond to anything on the keyboard, and the mouse doesn't move the arrow.

        This is with the "live" CD. I also tri
    • by Enahs (1606) on Thursday October 13, 2005 @07:52AM (#13780782) Journal
      Neither. The amazing thing about Ubuntu is that stuff just works, usually with little to no wankery.
      • by cloudmaster (10662) on Thursday October 13, 2005 @07:57AM (#13780807) Homepage Journal
        It should be noted that "stuff" includes a nice, functional desktop with programs and associations and sound and a whole bunch of "just use it" kind of feel. On most hardware, it's really impressive how well it manages to just make everything work - especially when one's used to "the old days" (I first installed Slackware circa 1995 - things like X and sound didn't really "just work"). Even today, though, it does a better job of post-install stuff working on more machines than Windows, IMHO.
        • I first installed Slackware circa 1995 - things like X and sound didn't really "just work"

          I most recently installed slackware three months ago, and things like X and sound still don't "just work." But that's Slack - it's for people who know how they need to set up their box, and *really* don't want their Linux distro getting in the way of them doing that. Yeah, I'm lookin' at you, Red Hat.

      • Is there finally a way to change your monitor settings without using a text editor? Every Ubuntu I've tried set my monitor to some safe settings which meant unusable 60Hz (WinXP OTOH auto-detects the correct settings, SuSE gives me a dialog where I can choose vendor and model).
    • If you've used Debian, you'll understand why we like apt-get and synaptic. If you haven't, I say try it out for a week, and see if you go back.

      I originally arrived at the Ubuntu party back when "Warty Warthog" was the tune everyone danced to. I stepped in fresh from the Suse 9.0 party after being thrown out by bad Gnome support.

      When I arrived (after installing WW on a 3rd partition), I was greeted by a desktop that had all the gnome/mac-ish looking fonts and everything seemed to be just SIMPLE. No need to w
    • by elebrin (844422) on Thursday October 13, 2005 @08:17AM (#13780943)
      - Ubuntu is nice due it's quick install.
        - Features also tend to work immidately: I spent three months trying to get a TV tuner working in various Redhat/Fedora Core releases and it never worked properly.
        - The ubuntuguide is another great plus: it is possible to know very little about setting up a linux box, and get Ubuntu doing what you want it to quickly.
        - Debian package management (no more difficult then gentoo package management, without having to wait for it to compile)
        - 1 install CD instead of 3 to 6
        - A great community that makes this a distro one that anyone can eisily download, install, and set up; it is ideal for people who want to migrate, or even for more experenced people who don't want to spend 65% of their time maintaining the computer and the rest actually using it for work or play or whatever.

      Now, if they had mplayer packaged such that it installed, and played DVDs correctly without as much effort (i.e. getting the source from the developers and manually compiling it, not that this is difficult, but it should be unneccessary), I would be happier.
      • by ajs318 (655362)
        Certain packages can only be distributed in source code form for licencing reasons; mplayer is one of them {LAME and PINE also spring to mind}. Though it should be possible to build a deb file so as to include dependencies for the compilation environment itself and everything that mplayer depends upon {so the compilation is certain to proceed cleanly}; put the source code somewhere sane; and perform the actual compilation step from within the post-install script.

        This would finally make compiling from
      • by Ashish Kulkarni (454988) on Thursday October 13, 2005 @11:43AM (#13782535) Homepage
        Check out Automatix (Automated GUI installation script) [ubuntuforums.org] posted on the EasyUbuntu forum. It installs all the nice-to-have extra software automatically. It's been updated to this release, and the number of posts has increased dramatically since I downloaded it this morning!! A list of what it does (copied from the post): Capabilities: 1) Installs multimedia codecs 2) Installs all Firefox plugins (java, flash, etc) (except Adobe reader and mplayer) 3) Modifies ALSA, OSS and ESD confs for duplex sound (solves most audio related probs on Ubuntu) 4) Adds midi capability to your Ubuntu box (NEW) 5) Installs RAR and ACE archive support 6) Installs skype 7) Installs Acrobat reader 7 and firefox plugin for the same. 8) Installs Gnomebaker (CD/DVD burning s/w for GNOME) 9) Installs gftp (FTP client for GNOME with ssh capability) 10) Configures Ctrl-Alt-Del to start up Gnome System Monitor (aka Windows) 11) Disables powernowd on laptops when they are plugged in 12) Installs DC++ and Limewire (file sharing progs) 13) Installs multimedia editors (Audacity (audio), Kino (video), EasyTag (ID3)) 14) Installs CD (goobox) and DVD (dvdrip) rippers 15) Installs Mplayer and mplayerplug-in version 3.05 for Firefox 16) Installs totem-xine, VLC and Beep Media Player (with docklet) 17) Installs Opera Browser 18) Installs Debian Menu (shows all installed applications) 19) Installs Bittornado and Azureus (Bittorrent clients) 20) Installs Avidemux 21) Enables Prelinking 22) Enables Numlock on (turns numlock on Gnome startup) 23) Installs Programming Tools (Anjuta (C/C++ IDE), Bluefish (HTML editor) and Screem (Web Development Env.)) 24) Gamepads (Makes USB gamepads work) 25) Totem and Mozplugger (Totem embedded with mozplugger) 26) GnomePPP (Graphical Dial up connection tool) (NEW)
    • The naked people artwork, obviously!
    • I found a clapped-out old 600 MHz laptop with 256 Mb of RAM, running a weird AMD K6 processor.

      Ubuntu offers a "server" install option, which creates a stripped-down no-desktop server machine. After a few REALLY SIMPLE install commands like apt-get install apache2 , I had a fully-operational Web and file server, which I could put in a closet and administer via ssh.

      It just worked.
    • I'm a bit of a Gentoo zealot (mostly because I run servers on older hardware (read:400-600mhz G3s, G4s, PentiumIII)), and I love Gentoo's package manager.

      I kept hearing about this ubuntu thing and my curiosity was finally sparked when I couldn't get Gentoo to boot on this old-ass PCG-505tx Vaio laptop I found in the trash. Mandrake and Debian wouldn't boot, either, so I tried out Ubuntu. Ubunto's install disk booted without a hitch, but the LiveCD just hung (even when I disabled APIC).

      the install was pretty
    • The major innovation of Ubuntu is that it has pictures of bright-eyed bushy-tailed cute young things holding hands and smiling at the camera on the homepage [ubuntu.org], after a few refreshing glasses of kool-aid, no doubt. Most Linux-based companies are very reticent about putting pictures of their userbase on the advertising propaganda, for very good reasons [stufflikethat.org]

      The Ubuntu folks seem to have have a similar corporate attitude to that Reiser dude or perhaps the MySQL people in their more touchy-feely moments, which may a
    • by Mjlner (609829) on Thursday October 13, 2005 @08:37AM (#13781099) Journal
      "OK. I give. What is so amazing about Ubuntu? Do they compile thier stuff with special options or have some whiz-bang installation program?"

      It seems to me that you're not familiar with Debian. (?) Debian is a Linux distro which has often been praised for having very good software package tools, ie. tools you use to install software packages. Debian's APT was the first really good package tool, which is nowadays mimicked by eg. Fedora's Yum, but APT is still very popular and holds it's own against the alternatives. (APT is also available for Fedora, which IMO proves it's worth and popularity.)

      The long standing problem with Debian, however, has been a very slow release cycle for the stable branch, meaning that if you want to use the newest and coolest software, you need to use the testing or the unstable branch. Many users are reluctant to use these branches, because you can easily break your system by installing software versions that do not mix together well. Eg. installing a new version of a library (DLL) might break several software packages dependant on an earlier version of that library.

      Ubuntu leverages all the benefits of APT, but eliminates the problem with long release cycles by having two releases per year, enabling you to use the newest and hottest versions of all your favourite software. You don't need to wait for a new version to come out for longer than six months. This only in the rare case that the new version is released just after the latest Ubuntu release.

      Upgrading to the newest version of Ubuntu is also quite easy. You edit a config file to refer to the newest release, issue the commands apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade and Bob's your uncle! Editing a config file might not be everybody's cup of tea, but I think there might bee GUI tools for this. I don't know, because I have no problems with config files.

    • by noahm (4459) on Thursday October 13, 2005 @09:03AM (#13781317) Homepage Journal
      OK. I give. What is so amazing about Ubuntu? Do they compile thier stuff with special options or have some whiz-bang installation program?

      The thing I love about Ubuntu (actually Kubuntu; I much prefer KDE) is that it takes this great framework provided by Debian and actually uses it. That is, for example, when you plug in a USB storage device, you don't worry about where it's going to show up in /dev or where to mount it or what groups you need to be in in order to access it. It Just Works, with the file manager opening up a window on you desktop showing the contents of the drive. Debian has all the necessary bits to do things like this, too, but none if it Just Works by default.

      It's just a really really well integrated system that works well. Somebody (Tim O'Reilley?) said that MacOS X made computing fun again. To me, (K)Ubuntu makes computing fun again.

      noah

  • Thank GOD. (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Enahs (1606)
    Maybe in a month or two, people will stop bursting into #ubuntu and #kubuntu IRC channels asking "is Breezy released yet?" Now we can look forward to people bitching about the stability of, erm, whatever the new unstable version is. :-}
  • by cciRRus (889392) on Thursday October 13, 2005 @07:48AM (#13780754)
    You might wanna read the review [linux.com] on Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy Badger, while you download the ISO.
  • Wake me up. (Score:4, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 13, 2005 @07:49AM (#13780759)
    Wake me up when the "Acneous Aardvark" version comes out, ok?
  • Kubuntu is also out. (Score:5, Informative)

    by JabberWokky (19442) <slashdot.com@timewarp.org> on Thursday October 13, 2005 @07:50AM (#13780768) Homepage Journal
    It would be nice to amend the post to note that this means that Kubuntu "Breezy Badger" is also available. They are, after all, a matched set:

    http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php [kubuntu.org]

    --
    Evan

    • by RAMMS+EIN (578166) on Thursday October 13, 2005 @08:09AM (#13780887) Homepage Journal
      Ditto for Edubuntu. I mentiod both, and a list of new feature highligts, in my submission, which got rejected. It would be nice if editors could add a reason for rejecting posts; it could help submitters write better stories in the future.
  • Upgrading (Score:5, Informative)

    by cloudmaster (10662) on Thursday October 13, 2005 @07:51AM (#13780771) Homepage Journal
    The poster forgot the <a href="bash:apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade">direct upgrade link</a>. :)

    BTW, if you're looking for an easy to set up LTSP-based distro, Ubuntu's a good choice (IMHO).  The release candidates have been very good improvements over 5.04 - mostly in terms of (lots of) more subtle polish type things.
    • by Chris Pimlott (16212) on Thursday October 13, 2005 @08:32AM (#13781062)
      For those upgrading from a previous release, instructions can be found on the official Ubuntu wiki [ubuntu.com].

      But yes, essentially "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" is it.
  • That site rocks. Got almost everything I could want set up very nicely. I probably won't even move up to 5.10 until Ubuntuguide is updated.
  • Don't like brown? (Score:5, Informative)

    by Marc D.M. (630235) on Thursday October 13, 2005 @07:52AM (#13780781) Homepage

    If you're not a big fan of the Ubuntu brown default theme, check out the Blended metacity theme [gnome-look.org] and the nuoveXT icon set [gnome-look.org]. They definetly add a 2005.10 (modern day) feel to the system.

    Go Ubuntu!
  • Upgrade working? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by B5_geek (638928) on Thursday October 13, 2005 @07:52AM (#13780783)
    Will apt-get dist-upgrade update me to breezy or do I need to adjust my repos?
    OR is a fresh install needed because of the gcc4.0 update?

    what command can I type to see exactly what 'version' I am using right now?
    • Not sure about ubuntu, but I'm pretty sure you don't need a new install given that ubuntu is based on Debian SID. You know, when I first installed Sid, packages were compiled with gcc 2.95. Then Debian team changed their default compiler to gcc 3.2 then 3.3 then 4.0. I've never had to reinstall Debian at all, just apt-get update && apt-get upgrade. I've been using sid for more than three years now.

    • Re:Upgrade working? (Score:2, Informative)

      by DoddyUK (884783)
      Will apt-get dist-upgrade update me to breezy or do I need to adjust my repos?

      I adjusted my repos to Breezy (as opposed to Hoary) to be sure, although sudo apt-get dist-upgrade works fine for me. However, there's no repository for Breezy Backports yet, so leave your backports repo as Hoary.

      I'm sure the guys at Ubuntu would have figured that a fresh install would have given their users serious headaches (especially with a system as customised as mine).
    • Re:Upgrade working? (Score:5, Informative)

      by gers0667 (459800) on Thursday October 13, 2005 @08:04AM (#13780858) Homepage
      If you apt.sources file is fairly stock, then just change every reference of "hoary" to "breezy"...

      Then, just run sudo apt-get update, followed by sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. This takes a while, but once it is done, reboot to the new kernel and you are at breezy.
    • Open /etc/apt/sources.list and replace the instances of "hoary" with "breezy". Then run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. A big download later, and viola!
    • Read the upgrade instructions [ubuntu.com] on the Ubuntu wiki
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 13, 2005 @07:53AM (#13780788)
    ...but will you do it at the top of a mountain? Check out the Extreme Ubuntu Install Challenge [zenlinux.com]!

    "On October 2, 2005, two good friends and I hiked up Middle Sugarloaf Mountain in the White Mountains region of New Hampshire. But this wasn't your typical hike; this hike had extreme geek value. For at the top of the mountain, I was going to install Ubuntu Breezy on my laptop.

    To my knowledge, no one has ever accomplished such a feat in history. Probably, this is because no one would want to. I'd like to change that. Ubuntu geeks of the world, I challenge you - where can you install Ubuntu in an extreme environment? Has Ubuntu ever been installed on a skyscraper window-washing scaffold? On an active volcano? While standing on your head the whole time? Just think of the possibilities!

    When you have a laptop, a mission, and no sense of social shame, anything is possible. What follows is one man's story of hardship and triumph, as he scales a mountain to install Ubuntu linux..."
  • by rishistar (662278) on Thursday October 13, 2005 @07:53AM (#13780791) Homepage
    Let this be a lesson - Keep your badgers away from beans!!!
  • this rocks (Score:3, Interesting)

    by fak3r (917687) on Thursday October 13, 2005 @07:55AM (#13780796) Homepage
    Ubuntu has become my main desktop and laptop (iBook) distro of choice, beating out Gentoo last year. I just did a fresh install of 5.10 Monday on the iBook, and it's just so nice. On the workstation we've been tracking Breezy for about a month now, and the polish just keeps coming. Can't wait till they move on Daper, an am especially excited about it being supported for so many years; you can just feel the momentium.

    Use whatever Linux distro you like, but if you're looking for one to change to, give this a shot, there's a reason there's so much good press about this company.
  • Cool.... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Chanc_Gorkon (94133) <gorkon&gmail,com> on Thursday October 13, 2005 @07:57AM (#13780804)
    Will I be able to just continue from the point I have been with the preview release? Anyone ran dist-upgrade and have it work yet??

    Ubuntu by FAR has been the BEST Linux distro for me. I just want to work on it I don't want to have to compile a bunch of crap (Gentoo anyone) or put up with RPM dependencies (SuSe, Fedora, Red Hat and Madriva). RPM based distros may have yum and apt now, but Debian based distros do it right.
  • I can get my hands on an 'old' P3 (about 1GHz) system for free. Would this distro be good? I've used mondern distros on older hardware before and I found they ran slow and I became frustrated with it.

    I appreciate any nuggets of wisdom.
    • I can get my hands on an 'old' P3 (about 1GHz) system for free. Would this distro be good?

      I've got 5.04 running on a P3/450MHz, with 512MB RAM. Default stuff, Gnome and all. Works pretty darn well. Slower to boot than on my dual Athlon box, but runs nice and is pleasant for desktop stuff. Its the kids computer and they have fun with it.

      (If you don't want the old system, can you send it my way? :-> )

    • Re:Pentium 3 (Score:3, Insightful)

      by WWWWolf (2428)

      ::shocked that anyone would consider 1GHz computer inadequate for anything::

      I've ran a reasonably modern GNOME desktop on a P3-600MHz machine just smoothly without any problems, so I don't think you'll have any problems with a 1GHz machine. Unless you want to play Doom 3 or something.

      (I wouldn't consider even getting an operating system / GUI environment that needs whole gigahertz for itself. Would suck knowing that my 3000+ Athlon would chomp 1000 MHz just to run the OS =/ )

    • I have a test machine which I use for Oolite-Linux testing (so I can be sure it'll run on a stock nothing-extra-added fresh build). It is a 1.0GHz P3 laptop with ATi Radeon Mobility graphics, from circa 2000/2001.

      It's absolutely fine with Ubuntu.
    • I keep a Compaq Deskpro EN (1 GHz PIII, 512 MB, 20 GB HD) in the front of my shop as an open, public net device (well, with a donation jar on the SFF case ;) ). Two things I can tell you:

      1. It runs quick.

      2. It runs solid.

      On any given day, I get a host of questions (From How did you make Windows look like that? To How much does it cost?) and I've sold quite a few of them because of it (six to be exact). Almost everyone that's played with it loves it. And no one has ever said, "It feels sluggish."

      All tha
  • by going_the_2Rpi_way (818355) on Thursday October 13, 2005 @07:58AM (#13780818) Homepage
    Other linux flavours released in the last 24hrs include:

    Piebox Enterprise Linux 3-U6, 4-U2
    Frugalware Linux 0.3
    Damn Small Linux 2.0 RC1
    B2D Linux 20051011
    PHLAK Beta 1 "Littleboy"


    So why are the "-buntu" releases getting all the buzz? It's the animal names, isn't it? And is it pronounced OOBOONTOO (orangutan for overhyped) or YOU-BUNT-TOO (a veiled baseball reference)?

    ;)
  • List of Mirrors (Score:5, Informative)

    by Znarl (23283) on Thursday October 13, 2005 @08:01AM (#13780834) Homepage Journal
    Here is a list of updated mirrors [ubuntu.com] as the main site is very slow.
  • I loaded OpenSuSe last week. Had troubles with Radeon and Centrino but usability was wonderful. A searchbox that highlights menu options...who would have thunk it. Loaded Mandriva lasst night and no real problems with video or Centrino though I had to manually configure wireless after install. But usability is horrible. I selected Firefox during install and they didn't even give me a menu icon or desktop icon for loading it. Same goes for other applications. So nifty menu search either. Might have to give U
  • Release page slow.. (Score:5, Informative)

    by David McBride (183571) <david+slashdot.dwm@me@uk> on Thursday October 13, 2005 @08:10AM (#13780893) Homepage
    The release page is running very slowly; the official Ubuntu Bittorrent tracker (complete with copies of the .torrent digests) is here: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ [ubuntu.com]
  • by stevenprentice (202455) <stevep@nOSPAM.gocougs.wsu.edu> on Thursday October 13, 2005 @08:12AM (#13780903)
    I think Ubuntu has a good future and now run it on my development workstation, laptop and server. But, what is more interesting are two big feature they added for Breezy that will make it easier for me to get my clients to consider switching over (including many commercial entities and a pro bono private school.)

    # Thin Client Integration: Ubuntu is the first distribution in the world to include deeply-integrated thin client technology. This allows you to deploy Ubuntu in large scale networked environments or, for example, in classrooms, with a lightweight Ubuntu image booting over the network. All Ubuntu management tools work for the thin client image as well as for the server.

    # OEM Installer Support This release of Ubuntu has special support for OEM hardware vendors. Ubuntu can be pre-installed and tested without configuring end user information. The user will be asked to complete that configuration (name, timezone and password) upon first startup.

    Think about it. If Canonical is successful in getting Ubuntu OEM'd with one of the bigger OEMs, this could be a huge success.
  • Why is it so good? (Score:5, Informative)

    by xutopia (469129) on Thursday October 13, 2005 @08:12AM (#13780904) Homepage
    We always get that question whenever some story about Ubuntu comes out.

    • 1 CD (Freely sent to you by snail mail)
    • Most things are more stable than many other distributions yet is cutting edge
    • It is debian based which means that you can just send off one command to update everything
    • It looks nice

    Anything else you'd like to add?

  • by cca93014 (466820)
    Will it go straight onto an SATA drive?
    • Yes. I've got two SATA's and the installed detected them nicely. The only hardware problems I have are with my wireless card and monitor.
    • Previous release Hoary Hedgehog wen't straight onto my Dell M70 laptop which is sata; treats the drive as scsi, works like a treat.
      (Had to do a special kernel to avoid some scsi race conditions in 2.6.11 but there were nothing to do with sata, and is fixed in the breezy badger kernel (which I'm using now on HH))

      Sam
  • by codepunk (167897) on Thursday October 13, 2005 @08:22AM (#13780970)
    Now for a usability question, can it play mp3's out of the box? Does it include
    all the movieplayer codecs? If not because they are patent encumbered or restricted give me a frigging button to press that will install support for these. Hell it would take fifteen minutes max to build a gdialog installer with python to do this crap for me.

    From the ubuntu web site

    "If you add the debian-marillat repository to your Ubuntu sources.list (use testing/main), you can use Synaptic or apt-get to install MPlayer, lame, and other tools to deal with non-free formats like DVD and MP3."
    • by muszek (882567) on Thursday October 13, 2005 @09:31AM (#13781533) Homepage
      Easy Ubuntu [placelibre.ath.cx] and does that stuff and more:
      • Add extra repositories for installing a lot of additional software.
      • Install multimedia codecs for reading all videos, musics and DVDs.
      • Activate the "audio preview" feature in Nautilus.
      • Install the most needed Firefox plugins: Flash, Java, Real, videos. Adds Microsoft fonts, GNOME's Firefox buttons, officials Firefox icons.
      • Install archiving support for RAR and ACE.
      • Install the most used peer-to-peer softwares: aMule (a clone of eMule) and Azureus (for Bittorent).
      • Install the Skype voice-over-IP software. (Warning: at this time Skype is not packaged for Breezy so install don't work)
      • MSN: Install AMSN cvs with webcam support.
      • Num lock: Active the num lock at system startup.
      • Replace the GNOME foot logo with Ubuntu's logo.
      • Install the NVIDIA or ATI driver for 3D support.
      (copied from their site)
    • by Kjella (173770) on Thursday October 13, 2005 @11:20AM (#13782368) Homepage
      If not because they are patent encumbered or restricted give me a frigging button to press that will install support for these.

      That's like asking the seller of water pipes "Well, if you can't give me drugs then give me a frigging map that'll tell me where to find it." There's such a thing as legal liability, and Ubuntu needs none of it. There's more than enough independent people willing to make that for them, there's no reason for them to endanger their project. Remember that unlike Debian or such there's someone with a decent bit of cash behind Ubuntu, and I'm sure they'd love to sue for it.
  • With this announcement, I thought I would go grab the PPC DVD torrent and let the /. effect help me along. I never did get the Hoary Hedgehog DVD image because there never was a working peer for it.

    On the site it lists that combination DVD images have been released. I've checked, they aren't on the list. So has there been a maor spring cleaning or are they just going to release the DVD later so that I'll be stuck with 68% looking for peers...

    I really do like x86 Ubuntu and I'm glad that they have a PPC d
  • Do I need to upgrade (Score:2, Interesting)

    by CKnight (92200)
    or does my daily "apt-get update && apt-get -y upgrade" cron job bring me in line with the new release?
    • by Anonymous Coward
      First, double-check you have ubuntu-desktop installed, otherwise some new packages might be left out.

      Then you need to change your sources.list. Instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes [ubuntu.com]. Just search and replace hoary with breezy, really.

      Then you'll need to apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade (not upgrade, which won't install new dependent packages - you'll get a message saying some packages have been held back). Make sure you look at the list of packages it's going to remove, just in ca
  • by iBod (534920) on Thursday October 13, 2005 @08:31AM (#13781050)
    Or some other flatulent mammal.
  • by dmouritsendk (321667) on Thursday October 13, 2005 @08:38AM (#13781108)
    I've been running the unstable/preview release for almost a month, and after resolving a minor DBUS problem i had right after upgrading, its been running extremely solid. The only noteworthy problem I've had is evince like to chrash when reloading/refreshing .dvi documents, this is really impressive for a unstable release IMHO.

    I've been using Ubuntu now for almost one year (I was seeking an open/free alternative to Gentoo), and since then it has become the only Linux flavor I run (well, that and debian for my server). Simply because it gives me the choice of choosing what I want to spend time on. Meaning, I'm not forced to read a multiple pages of documentation to get my digital camera to work, it just works when plugged in. And then if someday I'm like, "Hey, I wanna learn more about HAL/DBUS/whatever" I'm free to mess around with it.

    I know its like this with most distributions today, but since I'm a gnome user ubuntu is a perfect fit with their release schedule trying to follow the gnome one.

    The only remotely bad thing about Ubuntu is the documentation, not that the wiki isn't nice, its just no FreeBSD or Gentoo handbook ;-)

  • I have installed the base server on an old ibm 385XD laptop with 96Megs of ram. With ICEwm, it makes an excellent kitchen laptop-- perfect for email and recipe lookup.

    The nice thing about that was that I did not have a colossal hassle making it work. Everything I need can be piecewise installed and updated painlessly with synaptic.

  • ...wheezy badger.

    Thank you - leave tips at the door.

  • sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list

    replace all references of 'hoary' with 'breezy'

    sudo apt-get update
    sudo apt-get upgrade
  • Badgers???? (Score:2, Funny)

    by gstoddart (321705)
    Badgers?

    We don' need no steenkin' badgers!
  • by David Gerard (12369) <slashdotNO@SPAMdavidgerard.co.uk> on Thursday October 13, 2005 @11:26AM (#13782410) Homepage
    http://thingy.apana.org.au/~fun/n410c/ [apana.org.au]

    My email address is in there for any additions and updates.

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