Unreliable Linux Dumped from Crest Electronics

nri writes "The Age writes, Linux misses Windows of opportunity. Crest Electronics chose a Linux operating system, then seven months on, the company chose to abandon it for Windows. Mr Horton says. ".. the machine would basically, putting it in Windows terms, core dump or blue screen at random. It would run for weeks or so and then just bang, it would stop....I fully support Linux but if I had to make the decision again I'd pick Windows. A big reason is the fact Windows was up and running in two hours at all the right patch levels. The installation of SAP took two days on Windows, the installation on Linux Red Hat took two weeks. The total cost of ownership is actually lower in this case than with Linux because of the hidden costs of the support.""

Flamewars! Begin!

[Anonymous Coward]

HA! HA! HA!

windows code dumps

[digitalderbs]

"the machine would basically, putting it in Windows terms, core dump or blue screen at random"

whereas you can expect windows to core dump periodically and predictably.

Core Dump

[Coldglow]

limit coredumpsize 0 Thats how you keep the toilet from clogging

Re:Windows vs Linux

[__aamcgs2220]

But I'm the CEO of Banyan, you insensitive clod! What about Vines?!?!

Re:There's no debate.

[Grax]

Qualified admins are never cheap.

I've never hired a dog that was an MCSE.

I did hire an elephant once. He remembered everything and worked for peanuts. We never had a second problem with a computer if he troubleshot the first one. Amazing what a good stomp will do to a system.

Re:Well right....

[firl]

"touch" the power button to turn it back on after it crashes.

I see. Tell me more!

[Sj0]

Yes, because we totally believe that you came up with that arguement on your own. "Total cost of ownership" is a natural concept which simply develops in natural language, like swear words based around bodily functions.

Re:What is SAP?

[Anonymous Coward]

SAP is one of the biggest software companies in the world. It produces _the_ biggest software plateform. If an extra-terrestrial specie were to investigate Earth for signs of intelligence, we'd have to bury SAP deep down in the planet's core to have a fair chance of registering on their radar. If they decided to build a traffic system to regulate a galactic bypass, they'd have to use SAP. Let's hope we destroy SAP before they find a need for it, I don't want to develop on SAP all my freakin' life.

Re:Windows vs Linux

[dniq]

Sounds like an infinite loop to me...

Re:Windows vs Linux

[Profane MuthaFucka]

If Linux doesn't cut it, get Windows. If Windows doesn't cut it, get Linux.

Lather. Rinse. Repeat.

That's the formula that I use. That's right, I'm a consultant.

Re:Wndows BSOD

[lostchicken]

please don't mod this as funny

Looks like somebody noticed that funny mods don't get ya karma anymore;-)

In other news

[Symphonix]

Bob's phone sales in Milwaukee has decided that Nokia is better than Motorola. And Viadork Systems has decided that Toyotas are better than Mazdas. Seriously, though, since when is this news?

Re:Lets see in seven months

[Anonymous Coward]

they just laugh in your face.

That's if you're lucky, normally they'd throw a chair at you.

Obviously not the best distribution

[Benwick]

Who would choose to use a distribution called "Unreliable Linux"?

Re:Two Weeks!

[Queer Boy]

With absolutely no experience with any unix/linux system and very little windows experience, I setup a mail server, webserver and started creating a website for a company.

I have a BS in ECE Comm so my experience is a lot less than what those working on this system but more than an average computer user and I was able to install YellowDog Linux on a PowerMac 6100 in about 3 hours, in April of this year. It mainly took that long because it was over 10Mb enet (which was faster than the 2x CDROM). Then it only took another hour to get postfix and apache up and running (nothing fancy though). I can't imagine an install on modern hardware taking two weeks by people whose job it is to do it.

Re:Lets see in seven months

[Heidistein]

/That's if you're lucky, normally they'd throw a chair at you./

Or a lawyer...

Friends don't let morons use Linux- MCSEs bewarned

[ThoreauHD]

I also deal with this shit all the time. Find me a MCSE that understands any real OS and I'll show you a salesman.
Unix? What's that? Microsoft invented the IntarWeb! Ack.. die you stupid fuckers.

Does that mean..

[BlueHands]

that we are going to find out that the baby's daddy is really PeopleSoft?

he never really attempted to fix it

[timmarhy]

"We asked the customer to do a diagnostic test and the customer never responded, so it was impossible for us to address the issue," Mr McLaren says.

thats says it all in a nutshell i think. he's a retard.

We had to go all the way to Australia...

[Hosiah]

...to find the only person on the planet who's switched to Windows from Linux.

And he isn't the least, tiniest bit a paid shill to spread patented MS-FUD!

No, sirree. But you never saw a better recipe for a flame-war on Slashdot. How should we do this one? Doom-style? NeverWinter-style? Quake3Arena-deathmatch?

Re:Windows vs Linux

[Anonymous Coward]

It's not up to Stallman. Call it whatever you want. Your *BSD box has a lot of GNU stuff on it too ... call it GNU/BSD if you wish.

A potato by any other name would be just as potato-esque but if you insist on calling it a rose you confuse both cooks and florists.

GNU/BSD [debian.org] exists. GNU's opinion [gnu.org] on that.

Re:Obviously not the best distribution

[elgatozorbas]

Who would choose to use a distribution called "Unreliable Linux"?

Windows users looking for a smooth transition...

Re:Lets see in seven months

[Frnknstn]

".. the machine would basically, putting it in Windows terms, core dump or blue screen at random."

Heard inside Crest Electronics:

"I told you it was a bad idea to install that BSOD screensaver! Now what will we tell the PHB?"

Re:What is SAP?

[Rich0]

...it also goes for Peoplesoft and any of the Oracle Applications.

-1 Redundant! :)

Seriously, though, poster is right on. Anybody not familiar with the business IT world should google ERP + lawsuit. These systems are HUGE sinks of money, and rarely do implementations go straightforwardly. The joke with SAP of course is that their salesmen won't talk to anybody whose job title doesn't start with a "C".

In other news

[smartin]

Crest Electronics IT department deemed incompentent, laughing stock of industry.

Re:Lets see in seven months

[Hal_Porter]

Reading between the lines, I reckon this guy came in, didn't like the Linux install, and wanted an excuse to move back to his beloved Microsoft

So you're saying that Horton here's a Microsoft Ho?

Re:The key point to note in TFA is.....

[SubtleNuance]

we have a winner.

a joke:

The old manager, on his way out of his old office, with his possessions in a box hands Three Envelopes to his successor.

Old Manager says "here, this is all you need to know. When you get in a jam, just open these envelopes in order; #1,#2,#3."

New Manager moves in chugs along for a few months and then runs into a jam with his superiors. They are upset about performance/output whatever.

He thinks, "AHAH! I'll open one of the Envelopes!". He opens #1, in it a paper says "Re-organize".

He says "AHAH!" and proceeds to shuffle staff for 12 months. Make org charts and take synergy meetings.

New Manager chugs along for a few months and then runs into a jam with his superiors. They are upset about performance/output whatever.

He thinks, "AHAH! I'll open one of the Envelopes!". He opens #2, in it a paper says "Re-organize".

He says "AHAH!" and proceeds to shuffle staff for 12 months. Make org charts and take synergy meetings.

New Manager chugs along for a few months and then runs into a jam with his superiors. They are upset about performance/output whatever.

He thinks, "AHAH! I'll open one of the Envelopes!".

He opens #3, in it a paper says "Get three envelopes...".