Linux Kernel Code May Have Been in SCO UnixWare 455

Posted by timothy on Tuesday August 09, 2005 @08:37PM from the hard-to-say-sonny-hard-to-say dept.

Random BedHead Ed writes "Groklaw has some interesting new information online. In an entry today, PJ has posted the Deposition of Erik W. Hughes (PDF), a SCO employee. Hughes' 2004 testimony reveals that the Linux Kernel Personality (LKP) of UnixWare somehow used kernel code. Exactly how it was used is not clear. UnixWare was released under a proprietary license, but the General Public License under which Linux is distributed requires derivative works to use the same license. As PJ says, it's "now apparent why SCO tried to say the GPL is unconstitutional" back in 2003."

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Thanks. (Score:5, Funny)

by unixbugs ( 654234 ) writes: on Tuesday August 09, 2005 @08:39PM (#13283114)

A big up yours to whoever modded me down for stating that I've suspected stuff like this for a while from them.

how long ago? (Score:4, Funny)

by cbelle13013 ( 812401 ) writes: on Tuesday August 09, 2005 @08:42PM (#13283126)

2004 is so last year.

Move along (Score:4, Funny)

by kalla ( 254222 ) writes: on Tuesday August 09, 2005 @08:42PM (#13283130) Homepage

Obi-Wan: This is not the code you're looking for.

Oooooh the juicy irony..... (Score:4, Funny)

by tekiegreg ( 674773 ) writes: <tekieg1-slashdot@yahoo.com> on Tuesday August 09, 2005 @08:43PM (#13283135) Homepage Journal

GPL code in UnixWare...SCO forced to either pay damages or open source the Kernel. Something I never thought I'd see.

ALL YOUR CODE IS BELONG TO US! (Score:5, Funny)

by Bobzibub ( 20561 ) writes: on Tuesday August 09, 2005 @08:43PM (#13283137)

Take no prisoners.
Do not negotiate.
Sue their asses.
Come on FSF!!!!!
-b

Re:Wait . . wait . . what? (Score:5, Funny)

by themoodykid ( 261964 ) writes: on Tuesday August 09, 2005 @08:46PM (#13283147) Journal

"You've got UnixWare in my Linux!"

"And you've got Linux in my UnixWare!"

"AAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!!!!"

Re:Oooooh the juicy irony..... (Score:2, Funny)

by axonal ( 732578 ) writes: on Tuesday August 09, 2005 @08:49PM (#13283167)

GPL code in UnixWare...SCO forced to either pay damages or open source the Kernel. Something I never thought I'd see.
--
...in bed

Something I never thought I'd see in bed either.

Re:confidential (Score:4, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Tuesday August 09, 2005 @08:50PM (#13283177)

Main Entry: confidential
Pronunciation: "kän-f&-'den(t)-sh&l
Function: adjective
1 : marked by intimacy or willingness to confide
2 : PRIVATE, SECRET
3 : entrusted with confidences
4 : containing information whose unauthorized disclosure could be prejudicial to the national interest -- compare SECRET, TOP SECRET
- confidentiality /-"den(t)-shE-'a-l&-tE/ noun
- confidentially /-'den(t)-sh(&-)lE/ adverb

Re:Wait . . wait . . what? (Score:5, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Tuesday August 09, 2005 @08:52PM (#13283185)

I beleive the exact code they cited as stolen was:
return 0;

Comment removed (Score:1, Funny)

by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) writes: on Tuesday August 09, 2005 @09:02PM (#13283231)

Comment removed based on user account deletion

So THAT'S what SCO stands for! (Score:4, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Tuesday August 09, 2005 @09:03PM (#13283236)

SCO = SO COMPLETELY OWNED!

Re:Sorry (Score:5, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Tuesday August 09, 2005 @09:04PM (#13283241)

A big up yours to whoever modded me down for stating that I've suspected stuff like this for a while from them.

We'd like to give a big "Sorry" to everyone who is reading this! We ran out of mod points.

-Sco Legal Team

Isn't this what SCO was saying all along? (Score:4, Funny)

by Khashishi ( 775369 ) writes: on Tuesday August 09, 2005 @09:11PM (#13283277) Journal

Now they can claim that Linux contains Unix code.

Well, well well well well! (Score:4, Funny)

by Junior J. Junior III ( 192702 ) writes: on Tuesday August 09, 2005 @09:12PM (#13283282) Homepage

Well well well well well!
Well well well well well!

WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL!!!

Look what we have here!

It's enough fodder to feed an ARMY of trolls!

The land of Grocklaw is sure to be overrun with the vermin.

Re:Oooooh the juicy irony..... (Score:5, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Tuesday August 09, 2005 @09:16PM (#13283294)

Just announced: Linus Torvalds demands $699 from Darl McBride

"Long-hair smelly's" (Score:5, Funny)

by Pete ( 2228 ) writes: on Tuesday August 09, 2005 @09:17PM (#13283304)

Page 14 of the PDF [groklaw.net], pages 83-84 of transcript:

Q: I'd like to direct your attention to the bottom email. Quote, "Reading some of the comments on the internet, the long-hair smelly's (sic) are indicating we have not turned off our Linux downloads?" Close quote.
Who are the long-hair smellies?
A: That's a common stereotypical name of computer geeks.

"Long-hair smelly's"
Ye fucking gods. :-)

Re:Bad moves now haunting SCO (Score:3, Funny)

by rah1420 ( 234198 ) writes: <rah1420@gmail.com> on Tuesday August 09, 2005 @09:18PM (#13283308)

the best defense being a good offense
Like going all in with a pair of deuces in a high stakes game of Texas Hold'em. LOL.

Re:Move along (Score:5, Funny)

by Guy LeDouche ( 713304 ) writes: on Tuesday August 09, 2005 @09:21PM (#13283320)

Sorry, somehow his text got truncated during the submission. "SCObi-Wan" is the full name.

UnixWare Licenses (Score:3, Funny)

by Khashishi ( 775369 ) writes: on Tuesday August 09, 2005 @09:25PM (#13283331) Journal

Many customers are concerned about using UnixWare since they have become aware of the allegations that UnixWare is an unauthorized derivative work of the Linux® operating system.

End user customers who purchase a UnixWare IP license will not be in violation of Lot's of Mofos' intellectual property ownership or rights by using a binary distribution of UnixWare.

Warning! Individual users of UnixWare may be found liable for damages for copyright infringement of intellectual property owned by the Linux developers.

Purchase your UnixWare license today! (starting at $699)

Re:There's nothing new... (Score:2, Funny)

by HotNeedleOfInquiry ( 598897 ) writes: on Tuesday August 09, 2005 @09:25PM (#13283332)

Fascist

Re:"Long-hair smelly's" (Score:3, Funny)

by chris_mahan ( 256577 ) writes: <chris.mahan@gmail.com> on Tuesday August 09, 2005 @09:36PM (#13283379) Homepage

uh, that would be us... Well, you really. with your 2228 uid...

Re:Short SCO Stock!!! (Score:2, Funny)

by xsspd2004 ( 801486 ) writes: on Tuesday August 09, 2005 @09:55PM (#13283455)

Thanks for linking my home page... Hey, wait a.......

Re:"Long-hair smelly's" (Score:4, Funny)

by Pete ( 2228 ) writes: on Tuesday August 09, 2005 @10:13PM (#13283531)

Note this subthread [groklaw.net] in the Groklaw comments - all hail the newly founded League of Long-Haired Smellies.
All computer geeks may join, and you can define your own rank. And: "please note that as we are Smellies, you are allowed to be *very* rank." :-)

Re:ALL YOUR CODE IS BELONG TO US! (Score:4, Funny)

by Mr. Underbridge ( 666784 ) writes: on Tuesday August 09, 2005 @10:27PM (#13283582)

Well it gave me warm fuzzies for about 15 seconds.
Why? Putting Stallman on the stand is about the only way to fuck the case up.

Re:Move along (Score:3, Funny)

by paranode ( 671698 ) writes: on Tuesday August 09, 2005 @10:30PM (#13283591)

I know. Somehow... I've always known.

Re:how long ago? (Score:1, Funny)

by cbelle13013 ( 812401 ) writes: on Tuesday August 09, 2005 @10:39PM (#13283626)

oh come on mods, that wasn't trolling.

wait one frikkin minute ..... (Score:5, Funny)

by spir0 ( 319821 ) writes: on Tuesday August 09, 2005 @11:25PM (#13283824) Homepage Journal

You're trying to tell me that they purposely put Linux code into UnixWare and they still couldn't prove that there was similar code in each source tree?

Now that's the sort of thing that investors need to know about:

Dear SCO investors,

You are investing large amounts of money in a company which;

a) Fraudulently attack large communities of developers/end users/commercial vendors

b) Fraudulently claim that aforementioned communities stole your source code and injected it into their software

c) Couldn't prove any instances of said instances of stolen code

d) Ironically stole the code from those they attacked

e) STILL couldn't prove that there was any stolen code even though they knew where it was because they put it there

You're investing in idiots who have proven they can't even find their own arses (asses for Americans).

How do you feel?

Re:Thanks. (Score:2, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Wednesday August 10, 2005 @12:45AM (#13284105)

Where the fuck is my flying car? They promised me flying cars by this date in time.

Re:Oooooh the juicy irony..... (Score:2, Funny)

by TheDauthi ( 219285 ) writes: on Wednesday August 10, 2005 @01:31AM (#13284265)

For every copy of SCO Unixware! A total of... $699!

Re:Bad moves now haunting SCO (Score:3, Funny)

by flatface ( 611167 ) writes: on Wednesday August 10, 2005 @01:38AM (#13284278)

Or a 6 and a pair of 9s.

Mod points cost less (Score:5, Funny)

by halleluja ( 715870 ) writes: on Wednesday August 10, 2005 @02:24AM (#13284379)
We'd like to give a big "Sorry" to everyone who is reading this! We ran out of mod points. -Sco Legal Team

We currently offer high-tech mod points for the price of $599 each. I believe SCO mod points outshine Slashdot points on a number of fronts:
- SCO Points cost less;Customers pay once for the mod points and have them for as long as they like. Is Slashdot really free? Of course not.
- etc...
-Darl McBride
Re:Move along (Score:3, Funny)

by finelinebob ( 635638 ) writes: on Wednesday August 10, 2005 @02:52AM (#13284454) Homepage

Darl: I am your father, Linus!

Re:Move along (Score:4, Funny)

by ettlz ( 639203 ) writes: on Wednesday August 10, 2005 @04:26AM (#13284624) Journal

Ackbar. It's a (kernel) trap!

Re:Mod points cost less (Score:5, Funny)

by Master of Transhuman ( 597628 ) writes: on Wednesday August 10, 2005 @11:41AM (#13286527) Homepage

Ahem, I own the patent on mod points, whether they are /., Amazon, Microsoft or otherwise.

My law firm will contact Boies in the morning.

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Thanks. (Score:5, Funny)

how long ago? (Score:4, Funny)

Move along (Score:4, Funny)

Oooooh the juicy irony..... (Score:4, Funny)

ALL YOUR CODE IS BELONG TO US! (Score:5, Funny)

Re:Wait . . wait . . what? (Score:5, Funny)

Re:Oooooh the juicy irony..... (Score:2, Funny)

Re:confidential (Score:4, Funny)

Re:Wait . . wait . . what? (Score:5, Funny)

Comment removed (Score:1, Funny)

So THAT'S what SCO stands for! (Score:4, Funny)

Re:Sorry (Score:5, Funny)

Isn't this what SCO was saying all along? (Score:4, Funny)

Well, well well well well! (Score:4, Funny)

Re:Oooooh the juicy irony..... (Score:5, Funny)

"Long-hair smelly's" (Score:5, Funny)

Re:Bad moves now haunting SCO (Score:3, Funny)

Re:Move along (Score:5, Funny)

UnixWare Licenses (Score:3, Funny)

Re:There's nothing new... (Score:2, Funny)

Re:"Long-hair smelly's" (Score:3, Funny)

Re:Short SCO Stock!!! (Score:2, Funny)

Re:"Long-hair smelly's" (Score:4, Funny)

Re:ALL YOUR CODE IS BELONG TO US! (Score:4, Funny)

Re:Move along (Score:3, Funny)

Re:how long ago? (Score:1, Funny)

wait one frikkin minute ..... (Score:5, Funny)

Re:Thanks. (Score:2, Funny)

Re:Oooooh the juicy irony..... (Score:2, Funny)

Re:Bad moves now haunting SCO (Score:3, Funny)

Mod points cost less (Score:5, Funny)

Re:Move along (Score:3, Funny)

Re:Move along (Score:4, Funny)

Re:Mod points cost less (Score:5, Funny)

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