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WillAffleckUW writes "Fujitsu, which already offers Red Hat Linux on its servers, is announcing plans to offer SUSE Linux as well, according to an Infoworld article. Sadly, it's only for servers and services for Intel, not for AMD. Still, good news, in that you can go Red or Blue and still be Linux true!"
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Fujitsu Bundling SUSE Linux

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  • by Anonymous Coward
    "you can go Red or Blue and still be Linux true!"

    You'd never believe how much I feel like strangling he who wrote that.
  • Still, good news, in that you can go Red or Blue and still be Linux true!"

    I thought SUSE was green.

    No, I don't have anything intelligent to add to the discussion.
  • RE: Suse Distro (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Sabathius (566108)

    To be honest, I'm glad Suse is getting more play lately. It's the most refined (read polished) linux offering I've seen yet. Also, the Yast utility is the best tool for configuring this author has had the priviledge to use.

    Sadly, they (Novel) need more multimedia support for various codecs and such. Linux might come around more if people could play movies and music immediately after installation rather than wasting time tracking down all the crap needed to play existing media.

    I hope someone from Nove
    • Re: Suse Distro (Score:1, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward
      Nobody from "Novel", but plenty of NOVELL employees read /.

      Codecs are unnecessary on a server platform - you're not supposed to be watching movies on the system you run your business on.

      There are plenty of IP issues with things like libdvdcss and including stuff like Microsoft copyrighted codecs that Novell/SuSE seem to be steering clear of - and with good reason; they've been the target of Microsoft marketing campaigns for longer than Linux has been around. The last thing they need is to do something th
    • I just spent last 2 weeks trying to get Autoyast to work. The tool is so broken,

      First off, some rpms such as autoyast-tools etc, are not in the main FTP tree, but in some guys personal Ftp foler. ftp://ftp.suse.com/people/XYZ/RPMs/9.3/ [suse.com]...

      Next the tool fails to validate the control file , it generates on its own. i.e if you use autoyast to generate a control file, it will generate an invalid file.

      Oh what I would give to have a good Autodeployment tool for all RPM based distros, RHEL, Fedora , Suse, Mand

  • Fujitsu to offer Suse Linux and server support services

    PrimeQuest and Primergy servers gain Suse Linux support

    By Martyn Williams, IDG News Service

    July 08, 2005

    Fujitsu (Profile, Products, Articles) will begin offering Novell's (Profile, Products, Articles) Suse Linux Enterprise Server software and support services for Fujitsu PrimeQuest and Primergy servers worldwide later this year, it said Friday. SPONSOR

    White Paper: Simplicity and Enterprise Search

    The company will offer the software with

  • Sadly, it's only for servers and services for Intel, not for AMD.

    I understanding being a fanboy of a particular brand and all, but this is ridiculous. Intel still makes some good products, and AMD makes some good products. You may not like the company, but leave that sort of nonsense to the ensuing flamefest in the comment threads ;)
    • Maybe the comment wasn't supposed to show off their fanboy-nes toward AMD but rather to tell the reader what options are available.
    • yeah, makes sense. at least, let them start selling laptops/desktops with linux. then when demand picks up let amd step in as a natural course. these are the tentative steps, they will slowly come out after testing the waters. besides, AMD is only 20% of the market still - only natural that they cater to the 80% first.
    • I understanding being a fanboy of a particular brand and all, but this is ridiculous. Intel still makes some good products, and AMD makes some good products.

      And Fujitsu might make some good products, but by all accounts they also make some rather [theregister.co.uk] bad [theregister.co.uk] ones [theregister.co.uk], and they'll screw you over [theregister.co.uk] if you're unlucky enough to buy them.

      I don't care if Fujitsu are in the HDD market or not; would *you* buy products from a company with this attitude?
    • Intel does its best to make sure you don't get a choice [sudhian.com].

      While Intel has the occassional good product, their server chips are completely outclassed by AMD's Opteron, especially in multiprocessor setups. Buying, say, a 4-way Xeon instead of a 4-way dual-core Opteron server these days ought to be a firing offense. If you look at performance-per-watt the difference is even more extreme.

      It sure looks like Intel has been unimpressed by the JFTC case against them.
  • Linux on Fujitsu (Score:5, Informative)

    by Neo-Rio-101 (700494) on Saturday July 09, 2005 @04:17AM (#13019607)
    My experiences with installing Linux on Fujitsu equipment has been absolute hell recently. The installation instructions for RedHat Linux on a lot of their sevrers force you to use a series of driver disks, then make a bunch of system hacks to get it to install. It takes forever to do, and it's a beeyatch to document it as well, and don't get me started on upgrading the kernel. I can't update it from RHN cause then I'll break all their little modules. So I'm stuck with an old kernel on their hardware. Debian won't go on their BX300 blades... well, it does, but not until you've jigged with the Promise RAID a lot. Also, BSD 5.4 is a PITA to install on a twin CPU RX300. You need to disable one of the CPUs to get it installed, then rebuild the kernel with SMP module.
    • Re:Linux on Fujitsu (Score:4, Interesting)

      by nettdata (88196) on Saturday July 09, 2005 @04:49AM (#13019658) Homepage
      I have had the EXACT same experiences... especially installing Suse via their remote management board... what a fscking joke.

      We bought a crap load of their RX200's, RX300's, and RX600's, and they're a PITA.

      That being said, their phone support for Linux was VERY good (at least here in Canada, where you had to call some guy in Toronto). They answered a bunch of questions we had and supplied us with some drivers we needed, but all in all, Linux is a HUGE afterthought for these guys, with Windoze being their main focus.

      For that matter, we had a hellish time installing Windows on the boxes.

      I'll buy/recommend Fujitsu gear again. I'm very happy with a bunch of IBM blades that we just picked up... can't say enough about xCAT [xcat.org], their Linux cluster management software.

    • Funny, because we installed RHEL 3 on a bunch of RX600's without much fuss. Never did work out how to program the LCD front panel they've got though (the utilities that were supposed to do it didn't seem to work for me). To be honest, the Fujitsu server hardware isn't that much different from Dell's (often the same RAID controller, network cards etc.) and Linux seems to have no problem with it. BTW, we weren't impressed with the Fujitsu racks though - the Dell ones are much better.
  • Awesome (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Emporerx (845349)
    This is great to hear. Getting stuck in one distribution is sometimes a bad thing( I know, we all have our favorites).
    I started a year and half ago with linux and it made computing fun for me again which I didn't think was possible. (Not since the Tandy 1000 days?)
    So, to see a company like this offering more than Redhat (which doesn't impress me a whole lot), gives me some hope for the proliferation of linux and open source in a broader market.
    • Confidence too... (Score:3, Interesting)

      by John Seminal (698722)
      If a computer manufacturor sells desktops with various flavors of linux, you know the hardware will have drivers and work with those different distros. It won't be like the old days when you wanted to instal debian but your sound card was not supported. Everything should work, no matter which distro you toss on the machine. And the more open it is, the more people can enhance it. ;)

      The other part is, no matter how much you will disagree, I just won't use anything redhat, I had a horrible experiance with i

  • Some major computer manufacture should break all microsoft laws and start providing linux as a desktop OS alternative and should stick to it while it catches on. Dell did that for a while and fell to microsoft's feet later on. If only they had continued ...
    • by Anonymous Coward
      Some major computer manufacture should break all microsoft laws and start providing linux as a desktop OS alternative and should stick to it while it catches on. Dell did that for a while and fell to microsoft's feet later on. If only they had continued ...

      Yup, if only they had continued and thus had their Windows OEM licenses pulled and thus gone out of business. If only!

      Seriously, isn't it about fucking time we placed the blame where it belongs - if it's supposed to be a competitive marketplace and r
    • Re:Only for servers? (Score:2, Informative)

      by Ian.Waring (591380)
      HP are to bundle Ubuntu on some of their laptops as a default install, with all the ACPI, Wifi support etc working out of the box.
      • Re:Only for servers? (Score:1, Informative)

        by Anonymous Coward
        HP are to bundle Ubuntu on some of their laptops as a default install, with all the ACPI, Wifi support etc working out of the box.

        It doesn't come pre-installed, they throw a CD in the box (like they used to do with FreeDOS floppies). And they won't sell these units in North America.

        Can you guess the reason for all of this esoteric jumping through hoops?
    • Dell did that for a while and fell to microsoft's feet later on. If only they had continued ...

      If there was business in it they _would_ have continued.

      Why do so many Linux zealots have such a poor grasp of economics ?

      • No, they wouldn't. Microsoft would have revoked their OEM license for using a competitor's products. That's illegal when you are a monopoly.

        Why do so many Microsoft fanboys have such a poor grasp of the law?

        • No, they wouldn't. Microsoft would have revoked their OEM license for using a competitor's products.

          If there was business in it, this wouldn't matter.

          Why do so many Microsoft fanboys have such a poor grasp of the law?

          I have quite a good grasp of the law. What I lack is a belief it is infallible.

  • Fujitsu also did decently well in the Notebook tech support review [slashdot.org], although the methodology of the review process could have been a lot better and more comprehensive. I know I'll put my confidence in a company that knows I don't like being routed to India.
    • I'd never get another fujitsu laptop.

      The one I have (A1630) is now about 6 months old. I bought it because I though fujitsu had a good reputation.. at the time it was the most expensive 64bit laptop going (paid £1200.. ~$2000) but I wanted something that would last. How wrong I was.

      When I bought it the keyboard was loose. Tech support recommended wedging a bit of paper under it (!!)
      After 2 months I had to replace the DVD/RW as it was utterly useless at burning CDs with a 90%+ failure rate.
      After 3
      • i've had similar, though maybe not so bad experience.

        i also am using fujitsu-siemens laptop (lifebook c series). been using for about 2 years.

        during this time it also has a crack in upper panel (not that it makes it unusable, but unpleasant anyway).

        first problem was keyboard working bad (some keys started to work only on hard pressing). this was a fast replace.

        two times it had problems with display (probably backlight died) - last time repairs were 5 weeks.

        biggest problem was something wis a motherboar
  • by Anonymous Coward
    And please, quit it with those damned poems :P
  • I wonder if Fujitsu might consider offering Linux as an alternative to Solaris on some of their 64-way SPARC-based beasts, as well. I believe those are the PrimePower family.
  • blue? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by ErichTheWebGuy (745925) on Saturday July 09, 2005 @05:34AM (#13019722) Homepage
    I am a SuSE user, have been for about 3 years now. I used Mandrake before, and Mandrake has a gang of blue. Lemme tell ya, I *hate* green. It has taken me this long to get all the green out of my default settings in SuSE... And I am pretty sure there is some more in there somewhere!

    Where the hell did the poster get blue from???
    • Maybe from Matrix? You know, the blue pill, you stay on Windows, the red pill, you choose Linux?
    • He was probably referencing the fact that IBM (Big Blue) offers linux solutions. I think he was saying "red" not about redhat, but the fact that Fujitsu is in China (i.e., Red China)

      It's amazing that many people automatically assumed the poster was talking about linux distros, as opposed to the companies offering linux solutions.

      • Fujitsu is actually based in Japan. Probably the poster of the original story didn't think through what he wrote. Gosh, how many times has that happened on slashdot ;)

        I'm even an example of that. I should have added this to my previous post before submitting. *sigh*

        I've become so sloppy.

  • by Bender Unit 22 (216955) on Saturday July 09, 2005 @07:56AM (#13019923) Journal
    For example:
    "New heights achieved with SAP R/3 high-end computing:
    23,000 SD benchmark users; LINUX entering business critical computer environments
    "
    An old press release [fujitsu-siemens.com]. Fujitsu Siemens have been offering large SAP installation running on Linux, lately SuSE I bellive.
  • Fujitsu makes servers???
  • by adolfojp (730818)
    Bundling SUSE as an alternative is a good strategy. SUSE bundles MONO which is a good .NET Linux alternative. Perhaps Fujitsu wants to be able to cover all bases and include a .NET option for migrating enterprises.

    Cheers,
    Adolfo
  • Finally an end to this Redhat ES/AS only crap! I just install the ORacle 10 Beta and it clearly stated Suse/Redhat :)
  • the submitter forgot to note that Fujitsu only offers Intel and SPARC servers ...

    And they also support SCO Unix. Har har har.

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