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Desktop Linux Summit Highlights 416

mo writes "The Desktop Linux Summit has just concluded in San Diego. There were a number of exhibitors, including Novell, AMD, and Mozilla. I've put together a summary of some of the more interesting announcements and booths at the conference. Highlights include a Linux-only 3D game, DRM-free music services, and a new Asterisk GUI."
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Desktop Linux Summit Highlights

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 13, 2005 @10:39PM (#11664263)
    it runs on Windows, Mac OS X and one flavor of Linux (Linspire).
  • by oldosadmin ( 759103 ) on Sunday February 13, 2005 @10:47PM (#11664317) Homepage
    The first half-day of the conference was an OpenOffice.org RegiCon (Regional conference), and yet there was no mention of them in the article? That's a HORRIBLE summary of the DLS, coming from someone who was there every second of the thing.
  • Re:great timing (Score:2, Informative)

    by As Seen On TV ( 857673 ) <asseen@gmail.com> on Sunday February 13, 2005 @10:49PM (#11664327)
    GURPS (I had to google it) seems to be a poor substitute for the long-lost art of telling stories around a campfire.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 13, 2005 @10:59PM (#11664369)
    >network deployability

    Ummm, people have been installing Linux over a network for over a decade. The old NFS installs worked just fine. You didn't even need a boot floppy if you had a boot ROM on the network card. Now I just do everything with a business-card CD of Debian, and download all of the packages, including our custom ones, from a central company server.

    > end-user configuration lockdown

    UNIX has had this for over 30 years, and Linux for over 13 years. When you don't give the end-users the root password, the configuration is locked-down.
  • by AlexJeff ( 777401 ) on Sunday February 13, 2005 @10:59PM (#11664371)
    I was there as well and Rob Lanphier, Real's open source guru, unveiled the next feature set of the Helix Player (https://player.helixcommunity.org) and the Linux RealPlayer. The three features I wrote down were: - Subscription radio - Commercial Free - YES!!! - Reduced start up delay - whatever that was - Automatic bandwidth detection - for better roaming I think. Later...
  • by MatthewB79 ( 47875 ) on Sunday February 13, 2005 @11:06PM (#11664415)
    Skype is an implementation of VOIP. Asterisk (and Switchvox) is a sort of drop-in replacement for some very expensive telephone switch and voicemail hardware (PBX) like the Avaya systems.
  • by kforeman ( 596891 ) * on Sunday February 13, 2005 @11:17PM (#11664464)
    Great note taking.

    Yes, with now 84% of Real's record revenues coming consumer SERVICES, not products, like RealRhapsody, and RadioPass, Real can be much more open about our direction.

    Today the free Helix-powered RealPlayer 10 plays MP3, Flash, Ogg Vorbis, Ogg Theora, RealAudio 10, RealVideo 10, so users can enjoy the web's best FREE content. Our goal of the NEXT version is to allow users to start to enjoy PREMIUM content, including dozens of commercial-free radio stations.

    For those of you interested in following our process or lendign your insight, join the free dev mailing list right here: https://helixcommunity.org/mail/?group_id=154

    Kevin
  • Re:great timing (Score:4, Informative)

    by Pxtl ( 151020 ) on Sunday February 13, 2005 @11:29PM (#11664528) Homepage
    Where are you getting that? GURPS? How 'bout no. Mechwarrior is based off of FASA's classic "Battletech" boardgame. The RPG version that was released later (which did have a GURPS version) was called MechWarrior. The two games were meant to be played in tandem - using Battletech material for vehicular combat. The Mechwarrior games have always actually been far more tied to Battletech (the vehicle technology game) than any of the Mechwarrior (man-level RPG game) material.
  • by aendeuryu ( 844048 ) on Sunday February 13, 2005 @11:38PM (#11664585)
    Unreal Doom3 HalfLife2 Enemy Territory Cube Savage Stratagus Freeciv Wesnoth NeverwinterNights Tribes2 Vendetta YohohoPuzzlePirates Civilization AlphaCentauri FrozenBubble Pydance Teg DeusEx BZFlag XPlane Flightgear Torcs Scorched3d Pingus Lincity Tuxcart Torcs Quake 123 VegaStrike Railz LBreakout Armagetron PPRacer Vendetta and [ucalgary.ca] there [wildfiregames.com] more [sourceforge.net] impressive [worldforge.org] titles [sourceforge.net] under [eternal-lands.com] development [sourceforge.net].

    Here's my opinion. What "we" need are fewer people saying we need more games, and more people recognizing some of the excellent offerings we have right now. If we support these games (even with nothing more than just a little recognition), the companies WILL notice, see us as a market, and want to cater to us.
  • Re:Haha ... (Score:3, Informative)

    by djplurvert ( 737910 ) on Sunday February 13, 2005 @11:41PM (#11664610)
    Most likely you selected something else that required what you deselected as a dependency.

    As a beginner you should use one of the standard base installs and either yum or apt to install software.

    Perhaps what you really want is ubuntu. Installs with synaptic by default and is super snappy even on low end systems. Not too much bloat.

    ymmv.
  • by LnxAddct ( 679316 ) <sgk25@drexel.edu> on Sunday February 13, 2005 @11:41PM (#11664614)
    Err... the linux kernel is probably the most often forked piece of OSS. I don't know of a single distro that uses a stock kernel. Each ditro "forks" a version of their own and works on it in more detail there. When newer kernel branches are released, those branches are diffed and updated again... (more or less). Linus likes it that way. In fact, the kernel developers have accepted this to such an extent that they have decided that they may start including more experimental code in the stock kernel and let the distributors sort it out in their forks. Not to mention... alot of linux's media players are not half baked. MPlayer gui and Xine are two that I can think of off the top of my head that work better then most on windows. Real Player is another nice one.There is also quality software for every other category you listed including thunderbird, OpenOffice.org, gaim, gimp, eclipse, vim, apt and yum.
    Regards,
    Steve
  • My suggestion. (Score:3, Informative)

    by MatthewNewberg ( 519685 ) on Monday February 14, 2005 @12:42AM (#11664954) Homepage

    I would suggest staying with Windows for the time being. Why becuase it works for you, why fix something that isn't broken.

    Now from your description I would suggest to moving to Linux in the future. This is how I would do it.

    First Thing I would suggest you to do is read up on how to use Linux, and get used to it. Try out one of the bootable distro and use that for awhile, make sure you can use everything. If everything works(hardware and software), and you have the time go ahead and (Backup)install Linux.

    Otherwise I would wait for when you are ready to replace your computer, and plan my purchases around Linux. Linux is really good about Hardware support, but I would be careful and double check everything you buy and make sure it would work, and isn't too hard to setup.

    Once you have everything working, then transfer all your work related things to the new computer and then put that Windows Box to rest.

  • by johnlittledotorg ( 858326 ) on Monday February 14, 2005 @12:47AM (#11664982) Homepage
    I picked it up at Deviant Art [deviantart.com]. I tried to find a direct link for you but there is just too much to wade through. I'm pretty sure I found it in the minimalistic section. Florian Frendt [1freundt.de] also makes some amazing wallpaper.
  • by Coryoth ( 254751 ) on Monday February 14, 2005 @12:47AM (#11664983) Homepage Journal
    Have a common to all distro's install tool that is very easy to use (perhaps a RPM front end).

    Well Synaptic [nongnu.org] is a fairly universal install frontend for all distro based software - it runs on Debian (and all debian based distros), Fedora, SuSE, Connectiva. All you have to do is install the damn thing (it comes by default with several of those distro options). As for third party packages, try Autopackage [autopackage.org]. Yes they're still finishing things off, and yes, it's going to take developers bothering to package their software with it, but the promise it offers is, I think, enough that we can expect to see it become fairly standard over the next couple of years.

    KDE vs Gnome wars: put an end to it.

    Um, it is [freedesktop.org]. Or are you going to say all the GNOME developers have to go and work on KDE (or vice versa)? So who says who "wins"? And who really cares if there are 2 seperate desktops if they integrate increasingly well via FD.o standards?

    Jedidiah
  • by mrbass ( 742021 ) on Monday February 14, 2005 @01:01AM (#11665063) Homepage
    Robin Rowe founder of LinuxMovies.org
    Linux in the Motion Picture Industry

    He showed clips of 'The Last Samurai', Bad Boyz, etc. He said Shrek2 had a 2,500 cpu render farm and was fast approaching their deadline. They contact HP for an additional 1,000 cpu render farm and sent their info to them so that could finish. Like in last samurai he said no arrows were shot in the whole movie they were painted in. Also the shot with thousands of arrows the actors had them stuck in their legs and the digital effects people had to reverse trajectory paint them in. Pretty neat stuff.

    Mitch Kapor lotus 1-2-3, co-founder of eff.org, working on chandler
    I really liked his talk...he really is a visionary. He basically just sees it as a matter of time till open source blows over but his time frames are like 10 to 15 years.

    Brenno de Winter
    This guy single handedly wrote an op-ed and had the Dutch goverment stop a 160 million Microsoft contract of 5 years for something like 25,000 desktops. Instead he had redhat, suse, etc. summit alternative bids for like 7 million dollars. Anyway he now has minister and politicians asking him about DRM, etc. I stood next to him while I was buying like 25 firefox and thunderbird cds but didn't say anything. He's really a funny guy. He kept belting out s-word and b-word, etc. totally hilarious.

    Gary Edwards like a co-ordinator for openoffice OASIS. I almost didn't sit through this talk cuz I was like what the hell is OASIS? But boy oh boy this is really gonna revolutionize all office suites and the way business share documents.

    He said last 3 years OASIS (open document) has been in the making. Microsoft objected to it being called 'openoffice document' so they settle on 'open document'. It'll be in Openoffice 2.0. It supports XML, Xforms, UBL (universal business language...bills of lading, etc.), compound documents. Say Abiword opens a compound document with some word processor format with spreadsheets and it'll gracefully handle it just saying it can't display the spreadsheet portion.

    Barry is totally in the know and I couldn't get enough of what he had to say. Other talks I liked were Doc Searls and Simmon Phipps who is a Sun guy and anyway.

    I really got the feeling that Novell and Sun are embracing it slowly but surely. Anyway about those Linspire 4.5 and Linspire 5.0 beta...I guess they just don't like my little shuttle box. I guess I'll have to wait till they send me a japanese version (hey Scott) of 5.0 and hopefully I'll have better luck with that one.

    I did try that Novell 9 Linux Desktop 60 day trial and yeah it's basically suse but with an administrator's perspective to make it easy to manage hundreds and thousands of workstations. Kinda cool.

    Now they said they were videotaping all presentations but for the life of me I can't find squat online. I got that cd from Kim Brand (opensource in small schools) but it doesn't seem to have 25% of what was in the whole slideshow presantation.
  • by hennie ( 719660 ) on Monday February 14, 2005 @02:26AM (#11665355)
    I agree with you on the ease of use. The modern Linux distro is, in my oppinion, MORE easy to use than the Windows.
    I havent tried SUSE personally. Im posting this from Ubuntu Hoary. Ive never configured Samba - except to set my workgroup. Needless to say, I'm vissible and the rest of the network is vissible - and actually faster for me than for my MS-centric colleagues.
    What I disagree with you about is getting Linux into schools. People keep on using what they are familiar with.
    We have a project in South Africa, sponsored by Mark Shuttlewoth that does just that. See TuxLabs [tuxlabs.org.za]. More than 80 schools is already involved. People donate their old hardware to a pool that goes to the schools. Installation and setup is done by volunteers.
    Microsoft, of course, tried to donate software. This didnt help them much, because most of these schools didnt have hardware to begin with and they would need to purchase the "donated" software after two years in any case. The result: South Africa use a lot of opensource in schools. Your average kid is familiar with Linux - not Windows. You stay with what you know.
    Disclaimer: I live in South Africa. It is not exactly as third world as you would expect. Computers are commonplace, even for the relatively poor.
  • by Lisandro ( 799651 ) on Monday February 14, 2005 @02:47AM (#11665446)
    I'll give you this: Windows excells in this area. No contest - one has to be blind not to see it. But most of the stuff Freedesktop has to offer is available now, and the rest it's well on it's way.

    I use XFCE 4.2. I can load both KDE and GNOME programs that minimize to the taskbar, and they're handled perfectly. Cut-&-paste behaves as it should as far as i've experienced (no more "this pastes here but not there"), and the GNOME metadata i wrote for file handling is seen fine by XFCEs file manager. I can drag and drop files between programs and they're handled fine aswell - i do it all the time with Opera (QT) and my file manager (GTK+).

    Granted, it still has it's rough edges. But (again, IMHO) the Linux desktop is not the mess nowadays some people tend to beleive. And it's only getting better.
  • Re:Oh I DO hope.... (Score:2, Informative)

    by losinggeneration ( 797436 ) on Monday February 14, 2005 @03:26AM (#11665592) Homepage
    It is default root, that's what most people's (for obviously good reasons) gripe with Linspire is.

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