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Ubuntu Preps Next Release 50

Posted by timothy from the distributionalism dept.
linuxbeta writes "Ubuntu Linux is getting ready for their next release of their ultra-popular desktop distribution. Their third milestone was recently released, but you don't have to download it to try it out. Head over to these fresh Ubuntu Linux 5.04 Array 3 (Hoary) screenshots to see what Ubuntu has up its sleeve." And if you haven't looked at OSDir for a while, you might be pleasantly surprised; the thumbnail views make it much easier to navigate.
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  • Struggling to get windows xp to give me a command line or show the task manager, because for some reason these are sluggish when the domain controller is down (wtf?), I sorely tempted to just nuke the drive and install ubuntu. Sure, there's that small issue of my work requiring me to use Visual Studio to do C++ development, but hey, that's what WINE is for.
    • speaking from experience, Visual Studio 6 seems to work ok under Crossover Office, .NET will work, sort of, but it's a huge pain in the butt. It's a little slow, but VMware is really your best choice if you have to do Windows development under Linux.

  • Not to troll, (Score:5, Insightful)

    by MoOsEb0y ( 2177 ) on Monday January 24, 2005 @02:11AM (#11453239)
    Where are screenshots of the interesting (i.e. unique) things about this distribution? All I saw was a showcase of Gnome 2.8. About 2 screenshots were of synaptic, and there was absolutely nothing of its installer. That, being a Gentoo user, would be what I am most interested in seeing.

    • Re:Not to troll, (Score:5, Insightful)

      by gl4ss ( 559668 ) on Monday January 24, 2005 @02:15AM (#11453251) Homepage Journal
      nowhere.
      the installer pics are perhaps the same as earlier..

      but really, a short text about the new features would have been worth a million pictures in this case.

      these screenshot fests are not that useful for anyone. i guess they bring them traffic though.. must be a reason why they're there-
    • I think it's actually Gnome 2.9.x

    • Re:Not to troll, (Score:3, Informative)

      by dubious9 ( 580994 ) *
      I was thinking the same thing. As for Ubuntu itself, it's a very pretty/polished version of debian. For this release, after some digging around I found the main Hoary wiki [ubuntulinux.org] . On that page there is a link to the main goals [ubuntulinux.org] of this release.

      In short: Gnome 2.9/2.10, Xorg, LiveCD redesign, more package management ie. update notification, KickStart (auto-installation).

      There are many smaller improvements (or ones that might not make it in) and of course updated versions of packages. There are no big bombsh

      • Re:Not to troll, (Score:3, Insightful)

        by Directrix1 ( 157787 )
        Well, here are my reasons: 1) You don't need GUI elements for an installer 2) ncurses based UIs are just as effective 3) Linux boot CDs are notorious for not running under an acceptable refresh rate on LCDs 4) You don't always have an X driver for your video card on the distro CD
        • 1) You don't need GUI elements for an installer

          True, but then again, you don't need a lot of the eye candy that ubuntu has. Anaconda is more accessible and non-forboading like a ncurses-based install is.

          2) ncurses based UIs are just as effective

          They can be. But the debian installer that ubuntu uses isn't as easy as anaconda, especially in the partitioning stage. What is that a happy face? Skull and crossbones for partitions that you want to format? Anaconda is simply easier to read. Could ther
          • Well, nothing wrong with graphical by any means. Just make sure it is easily determined how to get to the text mode install, like make it a GRUB option or something.
            • That's exactly what I'm suggesting. At the GRUB menu prompt display:
              Press "enter" to start installation,
              "safe" to enter text-mode installation, or
              "advanced" for more options.
              :>

              Then everybody is happy. ;)
    • here [osdir.com], here [osdir.com] , and here [osdir.com]. Also notice the Trash panel applet.
    • 17 screen shots of games? And most of the others were shots of menus.

      I use Ubuntu at home and I really like it, but this article doesn't show anything about it.

      Ubuntu is clean and lean and handles hardware detection just fine on my box.

      Of course, since it is based on Debian, the installer isn't important. You'll only use it once.

  • Well, I am using Hoary right now and.... (Score:3, Informative)

    by poofyhairguy82 ( 635386 ) on Monday January 24, 2005 @03:55AM (#11453592) Journal
    It is really good so far. Its a little buggy (I don't recomend it for most people) but is has lots of software (more than Sarge, a little less than Sid) and the new Gnome looks great.

    Anyone that likes Gnome should try out the Preview Release of Hoary coming out in March. All the extra bug reports could make it one of the best distros ever.

    It will be a good finished project.

    • What? more than Sarge? I couldn't find any packages i wanted in the Ubuntu mirrors. I ended up adding the Sarge mirrors and trying to use that. Then i wiped Ubuntu and put sarge on.

      Now that im back on a gaming binge, Sarge is gone and WinXP is back (i dont want to pay for cedega). Needless to say i practice repartitioning a lot :)
    • ... more than Sarge, a little less than Sid

      Debian Distro Stats on sarge... 15400 packages, 1386 maintainers, 28553 MB installed size, 9132 MB compressed size.

      Debian Distro Stats on sid... 16447 packages, 1429 maintainers, 32302 MB installed size, 10338 MB compressed size.

      from http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/applications/do c ument_view: "fully supported software list of 1,300 packages."

      Yup, just another /.er with no fucking clue what he's talking about...

      L

    • I'll second the goodness of the coming GNOME. The first thing I noticed was that they finally made type-ahead searching work right on treeviews. No more "C-f" to search -- now you just start typing in any list or treeview, and you'll get a helpful box showing you what you've typed (a la firefox) and instant selection of your item. Among other things, this makes the much-bemoaned new filechooser much more usable for the keyboard-centric (though C-L is still often faster). The one thing missing from their key

  • I was wondering the following. In the beginning there was a lot of talk about the relationship of the Ubuntu developers with Debian (most Ubuntu developers are Debian developers). The original Ubuntu line was that they would give as much back to Debian as possible (as this would make their own life also easier). Now I was wondering if that really happened or not?

    Another interesting question is why Ubuntu seems to be able to release frequently and Debian doesn't... the size? because the Ubuntu developer

    • Re:Debian (Score:4, Informative)

      by poofyhairguy82 ( 635386 ) on Monday January 24, 2005 @04:21AM (#11453689) Journal
      Now I was wondering if that really happened or not?

      Ubuntu upstreams the bugfixes for the Debian packages they use. It has been implied to me on the official Ubuntu forum that these bug-fixes are not always used by Debian developers.

      Another interesting question is why Ubuntu seems to be able to release frequently and Debian doesn't... the size? because the Ubuntu developers are paid for their work? because they're differently managed (managed, tout court)?

      Well, first of all, Ubuntu only supports three archs- AMD64, i386, PPC. Debian supports many more. Also Ubuntu only focuses on Gnome as a desktop, and only "officially" supports 4000 packages. The unsupported packages do get some work, but just like in testing for Debian, some the of the obscure packages might be buggy (never happened to me, I install a lot of stuff). The releases are also quicker because there are less decision makers- which means faster resolution of problems. Hoary gained Xorg with much less pain than Sid will acquire it!

      You should try Ubuntu when Hoary comes out. If you like Gnome, its a great version of Debian.

      • They also have a different lock and release schedual. Instead of waiting a nice long while like Debian, they simply take a snapshot, bugfix if possible, and put it out as an official release, more often than Debian does.

        That last sentence sucked, but im tired and couldn't figure out how to say what i wanted while not horribly breaking grammar.
  • I was recently trying out the hoary beta release(upgraded from warty) and it has aparently been quite stable for me . I normaly use promepis on one machine debian sid on another , however i felt that ubuntu deserved a go.
    So i downloaded warty and played around and decided to to a dist-upgrade with apt-get to see how the latest version was comming along.
    firstly the good ,Ubuntu is light which really really is a positive step for a mainstream distro. the installer only installs a minimum of software . At f
    • Actually ubuntu disables root. You are ment to use sudo for all root commands. The root console in the gnome menu is simply gksudo gnome-terminal I belive. That would run the terminal as if you were root.
  • Should I believe what is said on their webpages?
    ---
    Release schedule
    The following are the current planned releases:
    1. Ubuntu 4.10 (The Warty Warthog): October 2004
    2. Ubuntu 5.04 (The Hoary Hedgehog): April 2005
    3. Ubuntu 5.10 (The Grumpy Groundhog): October 2005
    ---
    Which would mean that this article was published at least two months before appropriat time IMHO.
  • A kid could get in trouble saying that. So I've installed a whorey linux distribution, because it's more active with the community and includes wallpapers of semi-nude women.

    It's working pretty good, having upgraded through the apt repository rather than reinstalling. The switch to XOrg fixes some video related crashes I've had with absolutely every other distribution. There is a new problem where it fails to reach the desktop exactly 50% of the time after I log in, but I'm sure that'll be fixed before the

  • KDE? (Score:2)

    by yamla ( 136560 )
    I use Ubuntu at home. I love it. And I fully understand (and absolutely support) their decision to go with Gnome.

    But what I really want is Ubuntu with KDE. This is personal preference, I just prefer the way KDE feels. I know I can use KDE applications under Gnome but that's not enough for me, I want KDE.

    So, how easy is it to run Ubuntu with KDE instead of Gnome? The Ubuntu forums express disdain for anyone who mentions KDE, so I have no clear idea if even the necessary debs are packaged up, though ob

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