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Green Hills Software Decides Linux Isn't So Bad 198

An anonymous reader submits a link to this report on LinuxDevices.com, which begins "An outspoken open source detractor has paid Linux a back-handed compliment. Green Hills Software (GHS), known for diatribes against Linux in military/aerospace applications, is shipping 'Padded Cell technology' intended to enable the company's proprietary real-time OS to take advantage of the wealth of Linux application software." You may remember GHS's Dan O'Dowd, who's claimed that the embedded Linux Tools Market is a myth and that the open source nature of Linux makes it a threat to national security.
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Green Hills Software Decides Linux Isn't So Bad

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  • by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Monday November 29, 2004 @10:53PM (#10949372)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion
  • by Coryoth ( 254751 ) on Monday November 29, 2004 @10:58PM (#10949408) Homepage Journal
    This should be self evident to anyone. Admittedly the National Security Agency [nsa.gov] bothered to make additions to the Linux kernel to make it more secure, and freely returned their work to the open source community. That just shows that the National Security Agency doesn't know anything about National Security.

    When I'm concerned about National Security I know I trust a random small commercial software company. It would only make sense that they would be better informed about National Security than some lowly government organisation.

    Jedidiah.
  • Re:and... (Score:2, Funny)

    by tuxR0x ( 684378 ) on Monday November 29, 2004 @10:58PM (#10949409)
    I have a life damn you! I am here on /. aren't I?
  • Doublethink (Score:5, Funny)

    by fishdan ( 569872 ) * on Monday November 29, 2004 @11:22PM (#10949563) Homepage Journal
    From the article:
    O'Dowd says his company has achieved a kind of Linux application binary compatibility through technology that enables Linux applications to run under Linux

    When I read things like that, then I understand why I'm only an engineer and not a CEO, because I would NEVER think of using that phrase to try to get my point across.

  • No news (Score:3, Funny)

    by Uukrul ( 835197 ) on Monday November 29, 2004 @11:33PM (#10949623)
    IBM, the big blue company, decided a long time ago that Open Source [ibm.com] isn't so bad.
    Sun, the UltraSPARC Processors maker, decided that Open Source [sunsource.net] isn't so bad.
    Intel, the 8086 Processor maker, decided that Open Source [intel.com] isn't so bad.
    Munich, Germany's third-largest city, decided that Open Source [usatoday.com] isn't so bad.

    "Microsoft decides Open Source [opensource.org] isn't so bad" will be news.

  • Re:and... (Score:1, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 30, 2004 @12:09AM (#10949814)

    Yes, "Informative" was definitely the correct moderation of this post. Jeebus Christ.
  • by Truth_Quark ( 219407 ) on Tuesday November 30, 2004 @12:18AM (#10949852) Journal
    More likely, the NSA were only appearing to contribute to the Linux kernel, while they were actually introducing subtle and cleverly obfuscated bugs that will allow them to read Osama's email, and tell on him to his mother if he blows things up.
    Also it allows them root access to any Linux running hospital in Saudi Arabia, and they can overprescribe anaesthetics when he next goes in for dialysis treatment.
    /evil> MWA-HA-HA-HA-HA <evil>
  • Linux (Score:0, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 30, 2004 @02:06AM (#10950355)
    The Linux FAQ

    Here's a list of some frequently asked and answered question here
    and elsewhere that you may find useful in your quest to try linux.
    Read these carefully before you decide to invest time in Linux, you
    may find that you have better things you can do instead.

    SECTION ONE - INSTALLATION
    --

    1.1 Q: I heard linux was easy to install, is it?
    A: That depends on what distro you try. Most of them will have
    trouble detecting all your hardware. Most new hardware devices
    are not supported. If your lucky you might be able to find
    something that someone threw together on the net. But that's
    after spending a couple hours searching and probably won't take
    advantage of your hardware to it's fullest capability.

    1.2 Q: Once I get it installed, then what?
    A: Then you get the joy of making sure everything is configured
    right. Plan on a minimum of two hours per device to get it to
    work. That's if the device is even supported.

    1.3 Q: What happens if I'm in the middle of an install and the
    installation freezes or just stops?
    A: You get to reboot and start all over again. :) This happens
    every so often with Linux. It seems like it's buggy install
    routines or something. Ain't Linux grand? :)

    1.4 Q: What's the deal?! I installed Linux and it took up almost 2GB
    hard drive space!
    A: The Linux distros usually install a LOT of never-used programs
    on the default install. You can pick and choose what you want,
    but good luck figuring out what programs are needed and what is
    useless, obscure tools. Linux usually installs stuff like 10
    different editors, 12 different mail clients, and so on.

    (more to come...)

    SECTION TWO - CONFIGURATION
    --

    2.1 Q: What's with all these cryptic files?
    A: All of Linux is configured with cryptic text files. Some of
    the more user-friendly distros have configuration utilities
    that claim to do it for you, but success with these works
    sometimes and other times don't, so sometimes you have to
    edit them by hand, and think about your breathing!. With Linux's spotty reliability in UI
    programming, you might as well get used to it.

    2.2 Q: What is killall, HUP, ls, cat, rm, which, etc and why are
    these programs telling me to do them? Arggg!!
    A: These are command line programs that do things within the
    system. It's what makes Linux a powerful OS for those that
    are experienced with it. But it's also what makes it a pain
    in the arse to use and inefficient as a desktop system. Who
    wants to type all the time when they can just click?!

    (more to come...)

    SECTION THREE - APPLICATIONS
    --

    3.1 Q: Where can I get some programs to run on linux?
    A: Good question. Because Linux doesn't have a large user base
    on the desktop,(I think it's about 0.24%, less than 1%)
    companies that make software won't write their programs for
    Linux. There's a lot of community created programs out there,
    and some are fairly good, but those are few and far between.
    Most of the Linux software that tries to mimic it's windows
    counterpart is substandard. It's usually slow and buggy and
    early in development.

    3.2 Q: I tried to install an RPM but I got 'failed dependencies', what
    is that?
    A: That's Linux's version of DLL hell. Different versions and
    distros use different libraries. So u
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 30, 2004 @02:26AM (#10950447)
    I think that we can summarize the situation with some helpful perspective:
    • Linux is growing.
    • FreeBSD is dying.
    The GPL is the cause of both results. Hope this helps.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 30, 2004 @03:14AM (#10950600)
    Or maybe, just maybe terrorists have infiltrated GHS and are planning a long term attack against the US. I say we throw everyone at GHS in prison until we sort this out.

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