Fedora Core Release 3 Released 502
anyweb writes "Fedora Core Release 3 is out now, Heidelberg, 2.6.9-1.667 kernel, Firefox included ! Gnome 2.8 and more.
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some screenshots" New release includes Gnome 2.8, KDE 3.3, Kernel 2.6.9, Firefox PR1, Thunderbird 0.8, Ximian Evolution 2.0 and more. Here is a Mirror List and Bit Torrent
Fedora moves too fast (Score:2, Insightful)
Great news.
The dissapointing thing is how often Fedora major releases come out. Makes the lives of those of us who have to keep up with it quite difficult. We just got used to FC2 and now FC3's out! :-)
firefox pr1 (Score:5, Insightful)
That's the point (Score:5, Insightful)
It is a really cheap way of doing quality control.
Screenshots? (Score:5, Insightful)
why is it necessary to post screenshots? (Score:4, Insightful)
Despite this, we still decide to slashdot their screenies site!
Linux Screenshots (Score:4, Insightful)
They end up showcasing the lack of good linux desktop applications, it's pretty funny if you're not a zealot.
Re:Fedora moves too fast (Score:5, Insightful)
Then upgrade every two versions (e.g. RH9 to FC2 to FC4). That's what I do. There's no requirement for you to upgrade with every release that comes out.
Re:Competition (Score:0, Insightful)
Re:That's the point (Score:5, Insightful)
The way I look at it is ...
- I get a free OS (beer & speech).
- Updates from a source I can trust (Redhat)
Now, if it does help RedHat get some things done for their paying corporate customers it seems like a fair deal to me.
Re:IIRC, it was a kernel+parted issue (Score:2, Insightful)
And using Knoppix/similar and QTParted (which i've not had any troubles with) is rather backwards. If people want linux to be taken seriously, they need to make it play nicely with the big boys until people are ready (or able -- until there's native GTK or QT versions of Flash, Photoshop and Illustrator, I can't switch to it full-time, and I refuse to use WINE and/or the Gimp) to switch to it permanantly.
Re:fiiiinally (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Time to Upgrade (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Fedora Core 3 Thoughts (Score:4, Insightful)
Because apt for RPM was a hack. Was not built from the ground up to work for RPM where as YUM was. Yum was nowhere near apt in functionality but it is getting there. Maybe Fedora is stubborn in using apt for the same reason Debian was stubborn in using anaconda. It was written by "them".
Re:firefox pr1 (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:How it compares to Ubuntu? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:fiiiinally (Score:3, Insightful)
Does FC do net installs? (Score:5, Insightful)
If you want to set up a thin desktop with only a limited number of apps (GUI, browser, openoffice, email client, XMMS), it seems a waste to download 2+ GB of iso's full of stuff you will probably never use. And because FC is so bleeding edge, by the time you do need package XYZ, there is likely an updated version in the repository anyways...
Other distros (eg. Debian, Suse) do this and it's very convienent. I like to try out different distros but the idea of downloading a full CD set for something I'll only kick around for fun turns me off.
Re:why is it necessary to post screenshots? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Released? (Score:2, Insightful)
The joke would work better if you used Free Software instead of Open Source.
Re:How it compares to Ubuntu? (Score:2, Insightful)
But seriously, Fedora is heavily tested, backed by large corporations, retains independence from total corporate control, and the distro to watch if you're interested in what might be in the next RedHat release.
Ubuntu is well... lacking in many of these areas.
Re:That's the point (Score:2, Insightful)
Multiple - 8 OC-192's available at SC2004 (Score:3, Insightful)
It's like an alignment of stars! SC2004 bandwidth challenge and Fedora Core 3 released at the same time!
http://www.sc-conference.org/sc2004/bandwidth.h
yea baby! 8 OC-192s....for a limited time only!
Re:Time to Upgrade (Score:3, Insightful)
Rather than manually editing your /etc/yum.conf to point to FC3, it might be better just to download the fedora-release package from FC3, update that using RPM, and then proceed to update yum and then the whole system.
Re:Fedora Core 3 Thoughts (Score:4, Insightful)
This is the major point that is being missed by many here. Even if you think other LSM systems are better, even if you prefer some non LSM Mandatory Access Control system like RSBAC is better, you have to agree that any MAC system is a huge step forward for Linux security.
It doesn't even matter that the default SELinux policy for FC3 is very permissive (mostly it only places constraints of various daemons), what matters is that a major distribution has a Mandatory Access Control system in place by default.
This matter because it helps get developer buy in. That means more applications fixed so they don't do silly things that break under such systems, that means more developers actually using such systems to compartmentalize and strengthen the security of the applications themselves. This matter because right now we already have the architecture - several implementations of it in fact (SELinux, LIDS, RSBAC), what we don't have is applications that respect such systems, nor applications that take advantage of the extra security such system provide. As long as that is the case, we really aren't that much better off. People need to be paying attention to SELinux, and systems like it, and programming to use, or at the very least respect, such systems. Once that happens the difference between security in Linux and Windows really will be a night and day comparison.
This is a huge win for Linux if we can get it up and running, so let's take the time to make it work! Congratulations to everyone on the Fedora SELinux project! You've done a fantastic job, Thanks!
Jedidiah.
Re:Screenshots? (Score:2, Insightful)
If you're looking for a new distro, are you going to choose the one that shows a plain business-like desktop with bland solid colors and business apps?
-or-
Will you choose the one with some wallpaper featuring a hot chic only wearing white panties with Tux printed on it, with a wild black and purple color theme showing apps like Xine playing a DVD, an MP3 player and Xchat?
Surprisingly, these two screenshots could be pictures of the same distro. Marketing is 90% of everything.
Re:Fedora Core Release 3 Released? (Score:1, Insightful)
The water it heats is cold water. Therefore it is a heater of cold water, or, in other words, a cold water heater. It is not really a heater of hot water.
So the original poster wins that one, sorry.
Re:That's the point (Score:3, Insightful)
FC2 sucks worse than any distro I've ever used
Didn't you ever run Red Hat 6.0? or 7.0? or 8.0?...
Re:Does FC do net installs? (Score:3, Insightful)
They are trying to keep it simple...or just forgot.
Either way, it's not much of a hardship. Anyone who knows about network installs already knows that they are available and can figure out what to grab from the mirror sites. This has not changed in many years and is a given for most multi-CD distributions and most of the *BSD forks, not just Feora or RH.
Re:WARNING ALL DOWNLOADING FROM SUPRNOVA (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:That's the point (Score:3, Insightful)
Hehe, those releases were heaven compared to RH 5.0.
Or was it 5.1? I can't rememeber... but it was bad.
Cheers
Stor