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Linus Interviewed 407

a9db0 writes "There is a somewhat low-content interview with Linus here in the Seattle Times about his move to Portland. It does have a couple of Linus classic one-liners."
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Linus Interviewed

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  • by MikeCapone ( 693319 ) <[moc.oohay] [ta] [llehretleks]> on Saturday October 16, 2004 @11:02PM (#10548170) Homepage Journal
    I wonder how many votes Linus will get in this US presidential election...
  • by Roofus ( 15591 ) on Saturday October 16, 2004 @11:06PM (#10548183) Homepage
    Once again, I would like to thank the article submitter (as well as the Slashdot editor) who posted this story for giving us NO background information on who this Linus guy is. Are we all expected to instantly recognize every Joe Schmoe that has an interview posted online?

    Next time, a little background info would be helpful people!
  • by poptones ( 653660 ) on Saturday October 16, 2004 @11:10PM (#10548205) Journal
    It's only spelled "Linus."

    It's pronounced "Luxury Yacht."
  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 16, 2004 @11:13PM (#10548214)
    It's like that old series of Peanuts strips where everything Charlie Brown looks at, he sees a baseball. Anything Slashdot looks at this month, it sees the U.S. presidential election, and filters it through that context. A Linus Tourvalds article is about the presidential election. A Java vs C# article is like the presidential election. AN ARTICLE ABOUT A GOOGLE SHAREWARE APP BECOMES ABOUT THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

    P.S.: And in answer to your question, the last gallup poll showed Linus leading Nader by two points despite the fact that 99% of poll respondents had never heard Tourvalds' name before
  • by ImaLamer ( 260199 ) <john.lamar@g m a i l . com> on Saturday October 16, 2004 @11:17PM (#10548228) Homepage Journal
    Under the slashdot story which points to a Linus Torvalds interview there is an advertisement for Windows 2003 server and it's telling me that it's 17% cheaper to run!
  • by audacity242 ( 324061 ) <audacity242@yahYEATSoo.com minus poet> on Saturday October 16, 2004 @11:19PM (#10548236) Homepage
    Yeah, two and a half hours is SO close.

    Those of us here in Portland cower under Microsoft's presence.
  • by schnitzi ( 243781 ) on Saturday October 16, 2004 @11:22PM (#10548246) Homepage
    > Linus Torvalds (pronounced LEE-nus)

    Hmm, does that mean Linux should be pronounced LEE-nux?
  • by Colin Smith ( 2679 ) on Saturday October 16, 2004 @11:23PM (#10548252)
    But we got Jedi recognised as an official religion by writing it on the census paper.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2757067.stm

    Maybe if you score out one of the existing candidates and write Linus on it instead...

  • No! (Score:1, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 16, 2004 @11:31PM (#10548271)
    It should be pronounced Gee-N-You/Lun-ucks.

    Thank you

    Richard Stallman.
  • ...whether or not he frequents Slashdot.

    Seems important to me, anyway :-)
  • by polecat_redux ( 779887 ) <(spamwich) (at) (gmail.com)> on Saturday October 16, 2004 @11:35PM (#10548289)
    you must be new here. Linus has done some amazing things

    Really? From what I understand, he merely started a now ~15 y/o approximate clone of a pre-existing OS that is still not ready for widespread adoption on desktop systems (despite what many would have you believe).

    And yes, I use Linux.
  • by Nova Express ( 100383 ) <lawrenceperson@@@gmail...com> on Saturday October 16, 2004 @11:37PM (#10548293) Homepage Journal
    Actually. Linus had to move to Portland in order to get closer to Redmond. Only in the place it was forged can he destroy the One OS, and liberate the free peoples from the shadow of the Dark Lord...

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 16, 2004 @11:47PM (#10548321)
    I don't think the lawsuits have necessarily made a huge direct difference, but I do think that it has made a lot more people realize that maybe Microsoft wasn't the "American Dream" after all, but just another greedy company that might be better off with some competition.

    You mean, selling freely reproducable bits in shrinkwrap packages with extremely high profit margins isn't the American Dream? It sure as shit is MY dream. Microsoft has over $40 billion in the bank because they were able to charge money for something that costs them almost nothing to reproduce after they poured investment into the first. That's a nice racket, and I for one think that IS the American Dream: to make easy money.

    You open sores hippies just don't get it, and damn if your ideals are going to get any mainstream acceptance and end up devaluing my MSFT stock and other investments. A healthy respect for intellectual property is something America NEEDS for the american dream to continue to be there for the generation, folks.

    It had to be said.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 16, 2004 @11:52PM (#10548342)
    I think Microsoft has a PR problem. Largely deservedly, I would say.

    Yes, Microsoft has a PR problem, but to call them greedy and anti-American Dream is taking things way too far. Microsoft fucking epitomizes the American Dream.

    Microsoft made billions selling licenses to great software, and created a vibrant ecosystem where everyone respects everyone elses intellectual property rights. Linux and other communist-type free software ideals threaten to destroy that ecosystem which employs so many people! Take Econ101.

  • Re:Portland (Score:5, Funny)

    by j1m+5n0w ( 749199 ) on Saturday October 16, 2004 @11:53PM (#10548349) Homepage Journal
    From the article:

    Q. Why did you choose to live in Portland, and what's your impression so far of the Northwest? One person told me you moved there because it looks like Finland. Is that true?

    A. Well, the Northwest is certainly more like Finland in the sense that California is not like Finland.

    But, no, I don't think that was the reason. Although part of it was definitely that we thought that Portland was more "livable," being smaller and less busy than Silicon Valley. Whether that is because I grew up in Finland, I don't know.

    And being from Finland, the horror tales of constant rain didn't scare me as much as they do the native Californians.

    I (as a Portlander) for one welcome our new Finish overlord.

    -jim

  • Quote (Score:4, Funny)

    by xgamer04 ( 248962 ) <xgamer04@yahoo. c o m> on Saturday October 16, 2004 @11:59PM (#10548368)

    Definitely the best line:

    Q. Why did you choose to live in Portland, and what's your impression so far of the Northwest? One person told me you moved there because it looks like Finland. Is that true?


    A. Well, the Northwest is certainly more like Finland in the sense that California is not like Finland.

    and I don't know why, but it made me laugh.
  • by linuxpyro ( 680927 ) on Sunday October 17, 2004 @12:03AM (#10548378)

    Isn't it obvious? He's gradually moving in so the secret anti-Microsoft secret commando mission can take place. Give it another couple months and Linus and his cronies will have infiltrated Microsoft.

  • by JThundley ( 631154 ) on Sunday October 17, 2004 @12:04AM (#10548384)
    Linus would never get the numbers as long as there's a CowboyNeal option!
  • by einhverfr ( 238914 ) <chris.travers@g m a i l.com> on Sunday October 17, 2004 @12:10AM (#10548404) Homepage Journal
    Is there any way an AC can mod Linus + gajillion Insightful for that quote?

    Are you *really* Alan Cox?
  • by Kogase ( 811902 ) on Sunday October 17, 2004 @12:14AM (#10548416)
    This is not funny.
  • Re:Portland (Score:2, Funny)

    by gooman ( 709147 ) on Sunday October 17, 2004 @12:15AM (#10548418) Journal
    Being from SoCal; What is this "rain" that you speak of?

  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 17, 2004 @12:21AM (#10548436)
    To say that everyone should have a better future isn't the American Dream, its more, IMHO, of the Communist Dream.

    Holy batshit, you can't be serious?!

    America is officially jumping the shark.

  • by grcumb ( 781340 ) on Sunday October 17, 2004 @12:28AM (#10548463) Homepage Journal

    " ...whether or not he frequents Slashdot."

    I do, but only for the goatse links.

    Love,

    Linus

  • by MikeCapone ( 693319 ) <[moc.oohay] [ta] [llehretleks]> on Sunday October 17, 2004 @12:30AM (#10548472) Homepage Journal
    Henry Kissinger?

    Why not Hermann Goering...
  • by ayn0r ( 771846 ) on Sunday October 17, 2004 @12:40AM (#10548510)
    From TFA: "I think Microsoft has a PR problem. Largely deservedly, I would say."

    They don't need good PR, because they're focusing on other solutions instead. [bbspot.com]

  • by somethinghollow ( 530478 ) on Sunday October 17, 2004 @12:53AM (#10548553) Homepage Journal
    why not matt goering?
  • by somethinghollow ( 530478 ) on Sunday October 17, 2004 @12:56AM (#10548568) Homepage Journal
    Bollocks. I meant Groening. What a shitty joke that turned out to be.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 17, 2004 @01:01AM (#10548588)
    source to backup claim?

    #!/bin/sh
    echo "there are indeed 2 million folks developing for linux"


    there you go. i.. umm.. developed that source, so make it 2000001 folks.
  • by Inspector Lopez ( 466767 ) on Sunday October 17, 2004 @01:17AM (#10548633) Journal
    Linus has moved to Portland, OR, which is a fine thing, and as others have noted, that puts him amusingly close to Redmond, WA.

    I believe that this may provide a possible explanation for the recent eruption of a volcano (Mt. St. Helens) fairly close to the midpoint between Bill and Linus.
  • by Pan T. Hose ( 707794 ) on Sunday October 17, 2004 @01:25AM (#10548655) Homepage Journal

    Once again, I would like to thank the article submitter (as well as the Slashdot editor) who posted this story for giving us NO background information on who this Linus guy is.

    You're right. Let me write some basic info about Linus:

    Linus Torvalds (born December 28, 1969) began the development of Linux, an operating system kernel, and today acts as the project coordinator. Inspired by the teaching system Minix (developed by Andrew Tanenbaum), he felt the need for a capable UNIX operating system that he could run on his home PC. Torvalds did the original development of the Linux kernel primarily in his own time and on his equipment. Torvalds was born in Helsinki, the capital of Finland, as the son of Nils and Anna Torvalds. Both of his parents were campus radicals at the University of Helsinki in the 1960s, his father a Communist who in the mid-1970s spent a year studying in Moscow. This caused embarrassment to Linus at the time since other children would tease him about his father's politics. His family belongs to the Swedish-speaking minority (roughly 6% of Finland's population). Torvalds was named after Linus Pauling. He attended the University of Helsinki from 1988 to 1996, graduating with a masters degree in computer science. Torvalds lived for many years in San Jose, California with his wife Tove (six-time Finnish national Karate champion), whom he first met in fall 1993, his cat Randi (short for Mithrandir, the Elvish name for Gandalf, a wizard in The Lord of the Rings), and his three daughters Patricia Miranda (born December 5, 1996), Daniela Yolanda (born April 16, 1998) and Celeste Amanda (born November 20, 2000). In June 2004, Linus purchased a home in Beaverton, Oregon and enrolled his children in school in that area. He worked for Transmeta Corporation from February 1997 until June 2003, and is now seconded to the Open Source Development Labs, a Beaverton, Oregon based software consortium. Linus and his family recently moved to Portland, Oregon in an effort to be closer to his employer. His personal mascot is a penguin nicknamed Tux, widely adopted by the Linux community as the mascot of Linux. Linus's law, a tenet inspired by Linus and coined by Eric S. Raymond in his paper The Cathedral and the Bazaar, is: "Given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow." A deep bug is one which is hard to find, and with many people looking for it, the hope (and so far most experience) is that no bug will be deep. Both men share an open source philosophy, which has been in part (and implicitly) based on this belief. Linus Torvalds Unlike many open source "evangelists", Torvalds keeps a low profile and generally refuses to comment on competing software products, such as Microsoft's commercially dominant Windows operating system. He is neutral enough to even have been criticized by the GNU project, specifically for having worked on proprietary software with Transmeta and for his use and alleged advocacy of Bitkeeper. Nevertheless, Torvalds has occasionally reacted with strong statements to what has been widely perceived as anti-Linux (and anti open source) FUD from proprietary software vendors like Microsoft or SCO. For example, in one e-mail reaction to statements by Microsoft Senior-VP Craig Mundie, who criticized open source software for being non innovative and destructive to intellectual property, Torvalds wrote: "I wonder if Mundie has ever heard of Sir Isaac Newton? He's not only famous for having set the foundations for classical mechanics (and the original theory of gravitation, which is what most people remember, along with the apple tree story), but he is also famous for how he acknowledged the achievement: If I have been able to see further, it was only because I stood on the shoulders of giants ... I'd rather listen to Newton than to Mundie. He may have been dead for almost three hundred years, but despit

  • Give-aways (Score:3, Funny)

    by delco ( 559517 ) on Sunday October 17, 2004 @01:44AM (#10548709)
    ...Linux on cellphones or refrigerators, just because it's so not what I envisioned it. Or on supercomputers.

    I've heard that when celebrities mention they like things like Pepsi or Nike during TV interviews, they receive huge amounts of products from the manufacturers as a sort of thanks for the unsolicited and valuable publicity.

    Gunning for a new toy Linus?
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 17, 2004 @03:52AM (#10549061)
    I need to be more Linus like in my day to day life

    Except for exercise. Get more exercise. Especially if you're going to take your shirt off at Linux meets like the one in SA. Thanks.
  • by node 3 ( 115640 ) on Sunday October 17, 2004 @03:52AM (#10549066)
    Gunning for a new toy Linus?

    Yeah, I see your point. He must be looking for kickbacks from Cellphones, Inc., Refrigerators Corps, and Supercomputers Ltd.
  • by chip_s_ahoy ( 318689 ) on Sunday October 17, 2004 @04:17AM (#10549127)
    Sick of gentoo zealots throwing plugs in completely unrelated topics? Me too!

    Hey! There is an ebuild that will automate that sig for you! And it will run really fast since you set the compiler flags yourself!
  • by mickwd ( 196449 ) on Sunday October 17, 2004 @07:03AM (#10549479)
    Don't worry, we were Groening already.....
  • by argent ( 18001 ) <peter@slashdot.2 ... m ['.ta' in gap]> on Sunday October 17, 2004 @09:52AM (#10549872) Homepage Journal
    Linus would be very at home in Minnesota

    A lot of people from that part of the world seem to be.

    I'd love to hear Garrison Keillor interview Linus.

    So long as they didn't get into some kind of understated irony competition, of course. I don't think space-time could take it, you'd end up in some kind of conversational singularity.
  • by sootman ( 158191 ) on Sunday October 17, 2004 @11:19AM (#10550184) Homepage Journal
    From TFA: "Linus Torvalds [pronounced LEE-nus]..."

    1) wow. I never would've guessed that's how you say 'Torvalds'. Those wacky Finns...

    2) So that makes him "LI-nus LEE-nus"?
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 17, 2004 @12:20PM (#10550485)
    I tried to be more like Linus, but his wife kicked me out of Linus's house and said she'd call the cops if I came back. To hell with trying to be like Linus - I don't want to go to jail !!
  • by FurryFeet ( 562847 ) <joudanx@ya[ ].com ['hoo' in gap]> on Sunday October 17, 2004 @05:10PM (#10552089)
    You are, of course, right.
    But I liked grandparent's idea a hella lot more. "Linus as Mothra". Whoa, dude. Whoa.

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