SUSE 9.2 Released 352
peterprior writes "Novell have issued a press release announcing SUSE Linux 9.2. The new version comes with kernel 2.6, KDE 3.3, Gnome 2.6 and features (amongst other things) enhanced wireless support as well as Evolution 2.0 with Groupwise / Exchange connectivity. The WYSIWYG web development tool Nvu is also included. The new release is expected to hit the retail shelves in early November."
Hold on, its not released yet (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Hold on, its not released yet (Score:3, Informative)
"Novell today announced the November availability of SUSE® LINUX Professional 9.2, providing Linux newcomers and enthusiasts with the latest advancements in open source technology.
WTF ? Released ? (Score:5, Informative)
Currently, it's as much "released" as Longhorn.
The correct headline would have said "SuSE 9.2 announced", or sometime like that.
Rainer
Re:Wireless (Score:1, Informative)
Announced, not released (Score:3, Informative)
SUSE 9.2 Announced
It's due for release early November
SuSE was better some time ago... (Score:3, Informative)
Now I see an unpleasant tendency of including prerelease software in SuSE. As far as I remember, they were shipping a prerelease gcc 3.3, which caused problems with my (in-house) project and some prerelease of X11. Overall quality of the distro degraded. Also, I just don't get why they have Qt compiled with -DQT_NO_STL. As result, C++ programs that use STL have problems with system's Qt/KDE. This doesn't save memory/improve performance/etc., gcc shipped with SuSE has no problems with STL - so why?
I don't know whether SuSE is improving or getting worse now, as I'm currently deeply buried in .NET brain damage stuff. But next time when I'll be able to work under Linux most of time, I think I'll switch to something like Gentoo.
Re:Which version of 2.6??? (Score:2, Informative)
So, yeah, that version.
Suse is nice (Score:5, Informative)
Looks aside, I think YaST is one of the most useful configurator/installers/admin panels I have ever used.
The downsides of 9.1 are its wireless tools (I have a broadcom chip, so I had to use ndiswrapper... switching between networks required admin commandline work.) The other problem, which is a problem with many linux distro's but still hasn't been addressed for my situation, is ACPI. Yes I use a laptop. No, Suse did not pander to me with easy to install packages... meanwhile, it did install at least 4 different packages for bluetooth, which is one thing I don't use.
In general, though, I would tell anyone to give it a try.
Re:SUSE (Score:2, Informative)
Btw., just thought I'd mention that Lindows is behind the development of nvu and that the chief developer for it is the guy who developed mozilla composer (on which nvu is based).
Re:Novell buying SuSE could be the best thing for (Score:3, Informative)
I bought 9.1 and I might download the 9.2 iso and upgrade, we'll see when the time comes.
Outlook server? (Score:5, Informative)
So close! When will we get the perfect SME-server? (Score:3, Informative)
I'd been running samba/samba-tng network for the last 4/5 years on different distros but I have yet to see a distro that makes it easy to set up a basic serversetup for a small business network (dhcp,bind,samba and nfs) without having to use the commandline +++.
The shocker is how close SuSE is to achieving this in 9.1 - but that they didn't bother to go the last mile.
This would make it a kickass product for many SMEs.
As of 9.1 the following things are missing:
The press release says that they have adressed these issues (aehm, it says a redesigned user interface to permit easier setup of SAMBA, DNS and DHCP servers whatever that means), let's hope they have.
Re:Outlook server? (Score:3, Informative)
Kontact's Connectivity (Score:3, Informative)
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Re:X.org (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Gnome and KDE? (Score:3, Informative)
Probably. It hasn't even been moved into "unstable" in oh-so-bleeding-edge Gentoo. :)
KDE 3.3's been out for an extra month, which I'm sure helped.
Re:Which version of 2.6??? (Score:5, Informative)
How they feel on 9.1 Pro (and 8.0 Enterprise) (Score:3, Informative)
I prefered the version of GNOME that came in RH8, but the new one is plenty GNOMish under SuSe. I'm less familiar with KDE, but it certainly looks and feels like KDE to me.
Since I'm running SuSe on a 500MHz system, I explored all the desktops, then switched back to ctwm. 8^/
FWIW, we also have a couple of dual Opterons at work running 8.0 Enterprise (or whatever they call it). KDE and GNOME also seemed pretty normal there.
now I can wait on my failed 9.0 = 9.1 upgrade (Score:3, Informative)
Basically, the upgrade failed (and left my system in a partially upgraded state, requiring me to restore from backup tapes) due to some internal error. Yes, I have an older system (dual Celeron 500's). Red Hast was happy on it before the upgrade to SuSE 9.0, though.
Since I purchased the professional, I figured I'd get support. Not so. I was told, because of the error I got, I had to do a "manual upgrade", but that's not covered by professional support. And, I had to wait weeks to be told this. Perhaps it was the language barrier.
Since the system involved is fairly critical, I deicded to leave it at 9.0. I'm a little wary now of SuSE.
Re:SUSE (Score:5, Informative)
Nvu? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:there will be no personal any more (Score:3, Informative)
You're making stuff up... (Score:3, Informative)
Main memory: At least 128 MB; 256 MB recommended
And that's probably for the default kde desktop install. If you use something lighter you should be ok with less memory.
And, of course, it will probably install even if you're running on much less than the minimum req.
Nvu (Score:3, Informative)
The biggest missing part at this point is the file-management Dreamweaver has tackled so well. In Dreamweaver you can define a local site as well as a remote site, work on local files and upload them easily, browse remote files, etc., etc.
But Nvu so far lets you define one site, that site being your remote, live site. Too non-useful yet.
That said, Nvu will get there eventually, and it should rival Dreamweaver's rich features, including syntax-coloring, find-and-replacing, and on and on.
Re:Exchange ? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Which version of 2.6??? (Score:3, Informative)
Distribution kernels typically add a number of patches to the vanilla version in order to better meet the needs of their users. This includes features like lkcd or external filesystems, but more importantly, it means that it has critical bug fixes that weren't released into a vanilla release kernel.
The SUSE Linux 9.2 kernel carries the version number of 2.6.8, but is actually based on 2.6.9-rc2, with critical bug fixes beyond that. Since 2.6.9 isn't yet released, it would be inaccurate to call the kernel 2.6.9, but it's hardly vanilla 2.6.8.
You can see just what's in the kernel by checking out SUSE Kernel of the Day [suse.com], which is built from the CVS tree, and picking the appropriate subdirectory under there.
Re:Wireless (Score:2, Informative)
Here you are:x /preview/sysreqs.html [suse.com]
http://www.suse.com/en/private/products/suse_linu
Re:Wireless (Score:3, Informative)
It is unbearably slow in KDE with less than 256, but since I'm using Windowmaker, it's just fine.
Amazing how many knee-jerk reactions to the parent post without checking the actual requirements.
And as a side note, I've installed 9.1 on 2 different laptops and 5 different laptops. The only driver that didn't work "out of the box" was a VIA chipset's sound card (don't remember the chipset number -- I'm across town from the system right now). It was a lousy soundcard that needed upgrading anyway (working great with my Audigy II).