Knoppix 3.6 released

An anonymous reader writes "Knoppix-3.6 has been released. It is supposed to have the announced FreeNX Server, Kernel 2.4.27 and 2.6.7, KDE 3.2.3. It also includes ndiswrapper to use windows drivers for wlan cards. Download using bittorrent tracker at http://torrent.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/. Remember: Leave your bittorrent client running after the download is finished! Distribution to ftp mirrors will follow tomorrow."

I know there was a Ce'bit edition....

[Sancho]

but whatever happened to 3.5?

Re:I know there was a Ce'bit edition....

[ggeens]

Version 3.5 exists only as a DVD version. Check this page [knoppix.net] if you want to download it.

Re:I know there was a Ce'bit edition....

[Sancho]

Oh, that's right, it was LinuxTag..
Regardless, it's just strange. There was a special DVD of 3.4 before the CD version of 3.4 was released...seeing 3.6 just took me by surprise.

Ah well, I usually remaster anyway. Nice to be able to put it all in ram, and I don't care for KDE :)

Oh well...

[vogon jeltz]

I've just finished downloading 3.5 and burning it on 5 CDs. Guess I NEED the new version though in order to try the new ACPI functonality of kernel 2.6 ...
Sh*t, s*it, shi*!

Why no mention on the major sites?

[Futurepower(R)]

I find it odd that version 3.6 is not mentioned on the Official Knoppix site [knopper.net], or on Knoppix.net [knoppix.net].

Can someone explain that? Is 3.6 a trojan?

Re:Why no mention on the major sites?

[bug1]

The torrent link at knopper.net links to the provided bitorrent url.

Re:Why no mention on the major sites?

[Julian352]

It is offered on the official bittorrent links, so I'm guessing they want to seed some bittorrents and mirrors before announcing to the world and having hordes of people download it. If they release it by bittorrent, the bandwidth usage is spread across all the users, and once the beginning /. (etc.) demand is satisfied, they can let the rest of the people use ftp. It's a nice way of combatting the /. effect, and the flood to the mirrors that result from it.

There's a forum post [knoppix.net] on official forums, and the Official torrent link [knopper.net] also has the 3.6.

Re:Why no mention on the major sites?

[beegle]

It must've been a timing issue. It's now listed on the official Knoppix site.

Re:Debian ideology++

[dougmc]

But it annoys me that Knoppix follows the Debian "stable" ideology to the letter. Yesterday KDE 3.3 is released, today Knoppix 3.6 is released including KDE 3.2.

I don't pretend to know much about how Debian or Knoppix feel about the use of `stable' software, (and I don't use KDE (or Gnome, for that matter)), but if KDE 3.3 just came out yesterday, that hardly gives the Knoppix guys time to get it put into Knoppix and tested before releasing today. They probably burned their final CD weeks ago and have been testing it, making sure everything was good before they released it. They're not likely to ditch all that just because KDE released a new version.

Imagine a Knoppix based off Gentoo's portage tree.

I'm not so sure that having the very latest and greatest copies of everything is so important, but if you want it, make it -- you do have source and all that. But don't come crying to me when the new version of KDE makes your CD image require 710 MB of space and so it no longer fits on a CD :)

Re:Debian ideology++

[Kethinov]

The trick is to create an adaptive iso making program that has the ability to cut out things you don't need (or add as necessary [new dependencies etc]). Like I don't forsee myself needing a 3 different browsers an E-mail clients.

I understand the Knoppix people try to make good decisions for everyone, but in practice we just end up with yesterday's software today. Just like Debian. Now I know I got marked as troll for saying all this in my parent post, but I really don't care. I used Debian for a long time

Re:Debian ideology++

[SpaceLifeForm]

The trick you are looking for is called Morphix [morphix.org]

Of course, it's based on Knoppix, but you can build your own custom Knoppix if you wish.

Re:Debian ideology++

[Kethinov]

I haven't looked into Morphix, but if it's still using apt to create a customized livecd, it's still going to end up with out of date software. Even if you set it to Debian unstable. My biggest problem when I ran Debian was 1. missing packages (ROX filer anyone?) and 2. out of date packages (GNOME 2.6 took FOR EVER).

So I up and switched back to Gentoo. Source based distros don't have the problem of waiting for someone to compile binaries for every package under the sun.

Re:Debian ideology++

[jdowland]

I used Debian for a long time before I got tired of it and switched back to a source based distro (Gentoo) where you don't have to wait around for people to package and make binaries.

No, now you just wait around for the compile job to finish - solving the same set of equations that all the other gentoo users are independently solving at the same time.

How many times have you really needed a feature that is present in the most cutting-edge versions anyway? I asked myself this question and the answer was `n

Re:Debian ideology++

[wolf31o2]

Imagine a Knoppix based off Gentoo's portage tree.

That is exactly what we plan on doing for the 2005.0 release.

Stay tuned for more details...

Re:Debian ideology++

[focitrixilous P]

But it annoys me that Knoppix follows the Debian "stable" ideology to the letter. Yesterday KDE 3.3 is released, today Knoppix 3.6 is released including KDE 3.2.

It's pretty hard to patch a cdrom. Better to lag behind the cutting edge a little bit for security than find 3.3 has a buffer overflow and then issue 3.6.1 right after everyone has finished downloading the cds.

Not everyone needs to be on the bleeding edge.

new Knoppix vs. current or upcoming Mepis?

[timothy]

Having recently discovered that Mepis does certain things better on my hardware than Knoppix (I like the wireless config and other aspects of the system-control panel, for instance), I'm curious if anyone who has downloaded / us using the new Knoppix could compare the two.

I think both of them are excellent (based on recent Knoppixes that is, not having the new one, obviously :)) ...

timothy

Re:new Knoppix vs. current or upcoming Mepis?

[stefanlasiewski]

I'm curious, why are you comparing Mepis vs Knoppix? Because of the hardware detection?

Knoppix is amazing because it's a Linux distro on a bootable CD.

Mepis looks like yet another installable Linux distro.

Re:new Knoppix vs. current or upcoming Mepis?

[77Punker]

MEPIS is a fully usable LiveCD that does everything it should PLUS it has a good installer.

Mepis also a nice bootable LiveCD

[timothy]

Mepis is rather nice either way (Knoppix, too) -- as a LiveCd or running from a hard disk. Aesthetically, I prefer the Knoppix desktop, but the nice little network config app in Mepis is a very nice touch.

Tim