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Microsoft Developing Linux Policy, Plan of Attack 845

Lil' Bobby Gortician writes "This new MSNBC article talks about Microsoft's developing strategy to deal with Linux. They are actually getting some of their sales people certified as Linux experts, and say 1/10th of their test servers now run Linux. My favorite quote? "There's no set architecture in Linux. All roads lead to madness"."
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Microsoft Developing Linux Policy, Plan of Attack

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  • by bigdady92 ( 635263 ) on Tuesday August 10, 2004 @09:19AM (#9928369) Homepage
    "There's no set architecture in Linux. All roads lead to madness" -Microsoft

    I can see it now...
  • Aha! (Score:5, Funny)

    by rde ( 17364 ) * on Tuesday August 10, 2004 @09:20AM (#9928376)
    He's been at Microsoft since college and rattles off techie jargon like value proposition and customer sat (short for satisfaction) like any seasoned Microsoftie.

    Techie jargon? I think I've found Microsoft's problem.
  • by Noryungi ( 70322 ) on Tuesday August 10, 2004 @09:20AM (#9928381) Homepage Journal
    Sure.

    And this should be written on all boxes of Windows:

    Abandon all hope, ye who are about to open this.

    WinXP SP2, anyone? ;-)
  • by Alien54 ( 180860 ) on Tuesday August 10, 2004 @09:23AM (#9928404) Journal
    So what microsoft is up against is a growing community of mad scientists, inventors, and other innovators in league against them?

    I can imagine the cackling laughter now ....

    MMMMWWWAAHHHH HA HA HA HA

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 10, 2004 @09:23AM (#9928409)
    Yeah, there's a really startling lack of self-awareness in the statement that there's no set architecture to Linux and that all roads lead to madness.

  • Madness? (Score:3, Funny)

    by nagora ( 177841 ) on Tuesday August 10, 2004 @09:24AM (#9928420)
    Yes, looking after a network of MS machines is like a real-life Little Book of Calm...

    TWW

  • by pohl ( 872 ) on Tuesday August 10, 2004 @09:25AM (#9928426) Homepage
    I think Microsoft is setting an excellent example that happy customers (and fans) of Microsoft should imitate: learn everything that you can about Linux. Install it on your PC. Intentionally break your configuration just to practice fixing it. Install new hardware and figure out how to get it working no matter how much it seems like torture. Find free equivalents to software that you would normally run under Windows, and live with them for a while even if it means sacrificing features or quality. Absorb as much of this knowledge as you can, and share it with your other Microsoft-loving buddies. And once you all are as conversant in Linux as are those people who are choosing it over Windows, you'll be able to more effectively lobby against it...beacuse you'll be armed with knowledge. Never mind that you'll be helping the Linux culture to spread. Hey, look over there...it's an angel, and she's giving away free bacon!
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 10, 2004 @09:26AM (#9928429)
    ...windowsupdate.com.
  • Re:pattern (Score:0, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 10, 2004 @09:29AM (#9928457)
    "First they kill you, then they mummify you, then they put you on display in the Smithsonian, then you win."
  • by shoppa ( 464619 ) on Tuesday August 10, 2004 @09:30AM (#9928467)
    "Linux is a different kind of opponent. It's not a company to bash, but a software movement with the backing of the entire tech industry.".

    So now the whole world is out to get Microsoft. Isn't such paranoia a classic schizophrenic symptom?

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 10, 2004 @09:31AM (#9928477)
    "The studies are generously referenced in an advertising campaign dubbed "Get the Facts." Can Linux really handle crucial areas such as security and e-mail?"

    Yep Linux can't handle such things, but Microsoft can! Just look at their flawless track record.
  • by leperkuhn ( 634833 ) on Tuesday August 10, 2004 @09:35AM (#9928503) Homepage Journal
    Heh, here's a good "new feature"

    Allchin points to new features in the version of Windows due in 2007 that will allow users to remotely turn PCs on or off

    My dear lord they are innovating at an exponential rate! Quite possibly next they will unleash "a pointer device cabable of interacting with the screen."
  • by flewp ( 458359 ) on Tuesday August 10, 2004 @09:37AM (#9928524)
    And a genius would know how to spell ;)
  • by ayjay29 ( 144994 ) on Tuesday August 10, 2004 @09:38AM (#9928534)

    Microsoft are just going to hire about 20 high-class escort girls and covertly target them at the most important open source developers. The costs involved in this strategy will be peanuts compared with the total devastation it will bring upon the open source community, which will be left completely defenseless.

    They have already started a trial program [bbspot.com]. You have been warned.

  • by gnarlin ( 696263 ) on Tuesday August 10, 2004 @09:44AM (#9928588) Homepage Journal
    Not when the rest of the world really is out to get them ;-)
  • by MikeDX ( 560598 ) on Tuesday August 10, 2004 @09:44AM (#9928589) Journal
    if MS decides to "nuke" IBMs Linux plans, trust me, IBM can "nuke" Windows as well.

    With winuke.exe ?
  • by fubar1971 ( 641721 ) on Tuesday August 10, 2004 @09:45AM (#9928598)
    We actually would record audio files and then transfer them to the Sun Workstation and play them remotely.

    Nothing would beat the reactions of newbies in the lab when their workstation would seem to talk to them and say:

    "Newbie, don't do that newbie".
  • by Prof.Phreak ( 584152 ) on Tuesday August 10, 2004 @09:47AM (#9928616) Homepage
    ---Where would you want to go today?

    Well, madness of course!
  • by clickety6 ( 141178 ) on Tuesday August 10, 2004 @09:48AM (#9928621)
    Allchin points to new features in the version of Windows due in 2007 that will allow users to remotely turn PCs on or off

    It's a 5m long pointy stick for jabbing at theon/off button - yay!!!

  • Quotes (Score:3, Funny)

    by manavendra ( 688020 ) on Tuesday August 10, 2004 @09:48AM (#9928624) Homepage Journal
    (warning: This is a inflammatory, trollish post. Mods, please mark it that way)

    They are actually getting some of their sales people certified as Linux experts
    So at least they will be expert in *something*. Some day these very skills may bail them out.

    1/10th of their test servers now run Linux
    Smart move then! Less down time, less security hassles...

    There's no set architecture in Linux
    So they accept there are architectures in Linux? Conversely, they acknowledge Linux is smart enough to have different architectures for different components/modules, and understands that an OS is not a straight-jacket one-size fits-all thing?

    ..All roads lead to madness
    Which is why they are embracing that madness and studying it? ...

    (aah, this feels good!)
  • by randyest ( 589159 ) on Tuesday August 10, 2004 @09:53AM (#9928685) Homepage
    Linux at some point could be good enough to run home PCs.

    Oh, we can hope, right? Holy cow that's nonsense.

    Can Linux really handle crucial areas such as security and e-mail?


    Yeah, email is tough. Maybe if we study OutLook really hard, we can make something so great . . . sigh.

    "I just want the decision to be based on facts, not religion," says Taylor. "People are saying, 'It's not Microsoft, so it must be great.' Tell us what Linux does that we can't do. Don't tell us you're deploying Linux just because you can."


    Well, one of the answers is one of the "crucial areas" mentioned above. I bet you can guess which one.

    Microsoft is actively sowing uncertainty and doubt among potential Linux customers over who, if anyone, owns the intellectual property behind open-source software.


    What, no Fear?

    At a recent gathering of venture capitalists Ballmer went so far as to suggest Microsoft might own intellectual property in Linux and assured the audience that Microsoft would pursue any violation of its own patents. Before he spoke, a fire alarm went off. "It was eerily symbolic," says a venture capitalist in attendance. "We all scattered." Microsoft denies this, and says it will not litigate.


    Ruh roh.

    Windows group chief James Allchin accuses Linux of being a cheap knockoff: "There's no innovation. Linux is still in the business of cloning existing technology." Allchin points to new features in the version of Windows due in 2007 that will allow users to remotely turn PCs on or off, with programs still running. Searches will extend across all data like e-mail, photos, Word. "We're creating things," he says.


    Undeserving of a reply.
  • Best Quote (Score:5, Funny)

    by BrianWCarver ( 569070 ) on Tuesday August 10, 2004 @10:06AM (#9928840) Homepage
    From the article:

    "Linux at some point could be good enough to run home PCs."

    I'm sitting here with my fingers crossed, biting my lip, hoping for that day!

    Oh, this message written on Debian Sarge, current uptime: 31 days, 12 hours, 35 minutes.

    HA!
  • by kilimangaro ( 556424 ) on Tuesday August 10, 2004 @10:27AM (#9929060)
    Allchin points to new features in the version of Windows due in 2007 that will allow users to remotely turn PCs on or off
    The "off version" part of the project is code-named SASSER
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 10, 2004 @10:29AM (#9929095)
    "just as Microsoft has gone through a wrenching transformation from a combative bully to a mature corporate citizen "

    When did this happen? I must not have been reading slashdot on that day.
  • by mdemeny ( 35326 ) on Tuesday August 10, 2004 @10:30AM (#9929096) Homepage
    What they really need is a Republican strategist to come up with talking points:

    -Linux is a flip-flopper (is it command line or GUI? Could they make up their minds already?!)

    -Eclipse sounds French. VisualStudio is a good, strong American sounding name.

    -Linux starts with the same letters as liberal.

    -These damned hippies always want a free ride (and they keep talking about 'free as in beer' - are they alcoholics?).

    Of course, we at Faux News are only reporting on what other people are saying about the leftist-pinko-commie operating system. We're totally fair and balanced on the issue of non-patriotic, foreign-made, non-capitalist operating systems.
  • by pdamoc ( 771461 ) on Tuesday August 10, 2004 @10:37AM (#9929190) Homepage
    Microsoft already has a Linux version: MSLinux [mslinux.org]
  • by rvw ( 755107 ) on Tuesday August 10, 2004 @10:49AM (#9929351)
    Einstein said once: "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." And I'm afraid he's right...
  • 1984 (Score:3, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 10, 2004 @10:49AM (#9929360)
    He claims to have shed a tear the first time he saw Microsoft's most recent TV spots featuring kids dreaming of being future astronauts and painters.

    "Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother." - 1984
  • by wraith0x29a ( 565168 ) on Tuesday August 10, 2004 @10:52AM (#9929391)
    I didn't get that far as the page did not display properly in Konqueror. Funny that.
  • by Kafka_Canada ( 106443 ) on Tuesday August 10, 2004 @11:04AM (#9929523)
    It's a 5m long pointy stick for jabbing at theon/off button - yay!!!

    A finglonger?

    A man can dream...
  • by maxwell demon ( 590494 ) on Tuesday August 10, 2004 @11:15AM (#9929640) Journal
    I can imagine that Linux makes Microsoft mad :-)
  • by A nonymous Coward ( 7548 ) * on Tuesday August 10, 2004 @11:22AM (#9929723)
    Please, keep the prez out of this.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 10, 2004 @11:27AM (#9929800)
    i think we should be thanking microsoft for beginning their migration to the GNU/Linux platform. i'm sure when they see the lower TCO, stability, and security of their GNU/Linux test servers, they'll move the rest of them over too!

    is it unfair to have a headline: Microsoft migrates to Linux?
  • by jrumney ( 197329 ) on Tuesday August 10, 2004 @11:35AM (#9929904)
    Yes, but they all run on the same architecture - i386. With Linux, you've got the confusion of ia64, ppc, sparc, mips and a whole lot more architectures to deal with. Research conducted by the Alex de Tocqueville institute shows that the highly qualified MCSE system architects of this world do not want to deal with this choice of architectures, and would rather have their decisions handed to them on a plate.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 10, 2004 @12:59PM (#9930968)
    Any day, hands down.

    There's simply no comparison.

    Not everyone is greedy, not everyone can be greedy, even willfully. But the wisest of the wisest has its moment of foolishness.

    There's a reason it is said "a fool soon loses his gold" instead of "a smart guy gets a fool's money".
  • by EnderWiggin99 ( 84576 ) on Tuesday August 10, 2004 @02:30PM (#9932169)
    MS Bob comes to mind....
  • by redog ( 574983 ) on Tuesday August 10, 2004 @08:18PM (#9935528) Homepage Journal
    Yes, but the real question is who has more bandwidth?

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