Bash 3.0 Released 507
qazwsx789 writes "The first public release of bash-3.0 is now available via ftp and from the usual GNU mirror sites. For the official release notes by the author, Chet Ramey, check his usenet post."
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Re:I'm still waiting for a feature (Score:4, Insightful)
There is. Try zenity.
Not much changed (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:First "zsh rules" post! (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:People still use a shell for Linux? (Score:3, Insightful)
Why use a middleman when you have access to the source?
Re:Neat (Score:1, Insightful)
From what I can tell, bash 3.0 doesn't do anything that 2.x didn't do. Except, no doubt, break every script in my system if I were to install it.
Re:Apple helping out (Score:5, Insightful)
Right on, brother. (This is not bashing apple before i get started!) They have done something that no one else in the *nix world has done: shit-hot gui. People can blather about this and that, but to deny that Apple has created one of the most user-friendly, beautiful, slick gui's for *nix is crazy. I'd like to continue seeing Apple release more help to OSS. Keep the real money makers to themselves (for now), but allow more dev's to release usefull changes back to the community that helped build it ya know?
You are 100% correct that it's nice to see them making another move like this...even if it was a lil' one
Re:On the list of changes: (Score:4, Insightful)
I'm wondering why it's in the "LINUX" section of
Bash isn't Linux (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:People still use a shell for Linux? (Score:4, Insightful)
When you run a binary from the shell are you ever sure what files it's accessing?
If you log it, sure -- but there are tools to do that in the GUI, too.
Re:People still use a shell for Linux? (Score:4, Insightful)
Is BASH Linux specific only? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:When are they going to upgrade MY shell? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Apple helping out (Score:2, Insightful)
That was a wild mod ride! (Score:4, Insightful)
My post started with +2 (cause I are 1337). Then I got an "Interesting", two "Overrated"s, a "Funny", and most recently a "Flamebait".
Come on, mods: can I have an "Insightful" and an "Underrated", too?
Re:GUI possibilities (Score:4, Insightful)
But what if I want to do:You gonna write a custom GUI app for everything? The nice thing about the command line is that it's "language oriented" rather than "picture oriented." Rather than pointing at what I want and clicking, I tell the computer what I want using a language.
It's the same reason we don't code with a point & click interface (save for VB, but the point and click still only got you so far).
Most? Try 1... and fixed in 40min (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:GUI possibilities (Score:4, Insightful)
Please explain to me what precludes a GUI from offering an advanced search tool, in which you can open up a property info dialog for the results and do bulk permission/property changes for. (Hint: nothing stops this from happening.)
What you will end up with is a huge dialog with all kinds of checkboxes and text fields for the same things the command has. Making it more irritating and slower for the purpose of turning it into a shiny GUI, no thanks.
Even if you somehow make a magically really useful GUI widget that makes me enter all the necessary information in a completely natural and quick way and achieve perfection, I cannot believe you can do that automatically for every command ever. Which means there'll be a neat widget for some commands, and the command line for the rest.
That way lies hell. We have a perfectly good command line, thank you. If you want to make GUI frontends, perfectly fine, but don't expect us to use them.
Re:bash = "embrace and extend" proprietary crap (Score:5, Insightful)
Seems like an odd word to use to describe free software. Try not to lip-sync to the jargon, dude.
Re:People still use a shell for Linux? (Score:1, Insightful)
But seriously, a command line user who can touch type at a decent speed can appear like Commander Data -- tacka tacka tacka as stuff scrolls by on the screen at an amazing rate. It's a skill, and if you don't have it, pointing and clicking might be just as fast or faster than having to look stuff up and then hunting and pecking. But if you use the computer alot, command line + touch typing is a set of skills worth investing some time developing.
It doesn't break Gentoo... (Score:1, Insightful)
Better command completion from history (Score:3, Insightful)
If I have a command
foo bar baz
in my history, and I type
foo<TAB>
It complete that with the most recent command starting with "foo", and if I type
foo<UP>
it will cycle through the commands in history that start with "foo".