Sun Java Desktop System Release 2 196
Jahf writes "Sun is putting out Java Desktop System Release 2. Some overview information is in this article while more technical information about the new management solutions are in this one. Quickly: the desktop environment is essentially the same, though Sun has added support for GIMLET (allows one to change the current input language on a per-window basis), officially supported Japanese and Korean translations, and is including a Java-based online update client. The bigger changes are management items that are normally hidden from the end-user but valuable to the Admin. Configuration Manager allows admins to setup client preferences for remote desktops and 'protect' those settings to create policies. Sun Control Station (the last remaining Sun product from the Cobalt acquisition) can work as a network imaging server, can monitor remote desktops, and can work as a patch server (both by pushing patches out to many desktops and by serving as an online update server for clients who need to pull additional packages)."
Sun Control Station 2.0 (Score:4, Informative)
for some reason they rewrote the whole thing in Java.
And the new one doesn't come bundled with hardware.
Recommended Server Requirements (Score:5, Informative)
* 2 Ghz Intel Compatible processor or better
* 1GB of RAM
* 160 GB hard drive
* 10/200 Base-T Ethernet network interface
Wonder what a 200BaseT nic is... Can't say I've ever seen this before.
Re:Not impressed (Score:5, Informative)
Although you've been modded as a troll, you are right in large part it seems linux tries to emulate windows. It's not a bad thing, because it allows people to switch when they get too disgruntled with windows. However, the bigger payoff would be if someone developed a desktop enviornment that was BETTER than windows. Not just in preformance, but in look in feel
and that is exactly what sun is trying to do with project looking glass. [sun.com]
Check out some of the movies and screenshots of it if you haven't seen them yet (it's been posted on slashdot) they are pretty badass imo.
Re:Isn't this just plain ol' linux? (Score:5, Informative)
2. $100 is the base price (actually $50 right now) that gets you one year of updates. You never have to pay another dime unless you want ANOTHER year of updates.
3. Sun's plan is to bundle all of their desktop software into one package. As they add new value (e.g. MSAccess support for StarOffice is in the works), you get those upgrades free.
4. Unlike many ad-hoc distros, JDS is founded upon the idea of being a consolidated desktop.
I will say that at this point JDS is only slightly *different* from SuSE. SuSE may actually be the better pick. However, I do expect that JDS will become a lot more competitive in the future.
Re:Wow, a "twofer" in the omelette today (Score:4, Informative)
*6.
Q.
Which operating system does the Java Desktop System work with?
A.
The Java Desktop System includes a Linux OS, based on SuSE SLED. Future versions will extend platform support to the Solaris SPARC and x86 platforms.*
Don't try to understand something you don't bother reading few lines of.
+5 MIS-informative
Re:what i don't understand is (Score:4, Informative)
JD4x (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Sun Control Station 2.0 (Score:3, Informative)
There was an HTML "wrapper" interface (a la RaQ 550 etc), but the bulk of the interface was Java.
Re:Isn't this just plain ol' linux? (Score:2, Informative)
"The Java Desktop System is a complete, integrated desktop system that includes everything from the OS to applications. The integrated Linux OS is based on SuSE SLED and is the only Linux distribution which is supported at this time. Future versions will extend platform support to the Solaris SPARC and x86 platforms."
Re:JD4x (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Nothing Minimum about it... (Score:1, Informative)
Minimum Supported Configuration
Pentium II-compatible processor, 266 MHz; 4-GB hard disk; 128-MB RAM; 800x600 screen resolution
WTF are you talking about?
Re:IT's SUSE Re:Desktops of SUN, Red Hat, and Nove (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Isn't this just plain ol' linux? (Score:1, Informative)
Not necessarily - it depends how you go about it. If you include source code in the actual distribution, then what you've said is basically correct.
If you don't, however, then obviously you have to be making some kind of offer to provide source code if your customers need it. The thing is that the GPL requires such offers to be transferrable.
So if your customer gives a copy of the binary to his friend, and you included source code on the CD, then your customer is the one responsible for providing source code to his friend if the friend wants it. But if you merely put a note in saying "source code is available on request", then your customer passed that offer on to his friend, and when his friend wants the source code he will ask you for it - and you are then required by the GPL to give him it, even though he never bought the software from you.
(As usual, read the license for the details. I'm not good at explaining legal things, but what you said is a common misunderstanding that shouldn't go uncorrected.)
Re:Although it's fun to joke about Java... (Score:3, Informative)
Java 1.5 templates will not solve this situation, unfortunately.
And of course, Swing is slow because of the bloated architecture.
Re:Recommended Server Requirements (Score:3, Informative)
- Pentium II-compatible processor, 266 MHz
- 4-GB hard disk
- 128-MB RAM
- 800x600 screen resolution
The parent is just troll, and the moderators bought it because they didn't read the article either!BTW, recomended is:
- Pentium III-compatible processor, 600 MHz or faster
- at least 4-GB hard disk
- at least 256-MB RAM
- 1024x768 screen resolution or better
Not bad.Re:Although it's fun to joke about Java... (Score:2, Informative)
The reason why it is so slow is not java, it's the latency introduced by GTK (on which GNOME is based). In fact the Java Desktop has nothing to do with Java.
> native display rendering speedups as Eclipse does
native display rendering isn't java anymore.