Mandrakelinux 10 Official Released

boklm writes "Two months after the Mandrakelinux 10.0 Community release, the enhanced and polished 'Mandrakelinux 10.0 Official release' has been announced. Download ISOs are available today for Club members and packs are also avaible on MandrakeStore." As Shipud puts it, "USB2 support... vive 2.6.3 !!"

Pardon my French but

[JCCyC]

Will they offer delayed ISOs for the masses? Preinstalled Nvidia drivers, Flash etc. is a nice thing, and I can wait.

MandrakeClub users aren't too happy

[Anonymous Coward]

The MandrakeClub forums have been burning up with flames regarding the Mandrake mirrors being totally fucked, and the download "mirrors" actually being links to bittorrents. I'm wondering if that will hurt thier business so soon after getting out of bankruptcy.

linux-2.6.5 is the latest, 2.6.4 but not long ago

[after]

But why couldnt they squeeze in 2.6.4 at the time they were getting ready to relese the ISOs'? I used to be a Mandrake user, but I got sick of the fact that once you install, there are no easely automated ways to update yoyr software. I use Gentoo [gentoo.org], primarily because I think portage (I also use FreeBSD ;)) is the best thing since sliced bread. I also have the 2.6.5 [kernel.org] kernel thanks to portage, and USB 2 support is better then ever.

I really think Mandrake, LLC (or what is it?) should concider using a different package/software manager in future releases. This [gentoo.org] gentoo forums post even describes how to install the superb portage on other distros.

Anyway, someone feel free to correct me or mod me down.

Re:MandrakeClub users aren't too happy

[MatthewB79]

As a MandrakeClub user, you have to send an email specifically requesting access to an FTP mirror. I still haven't received a response to my request after over 2 weeks. My biggest qualm is that the MandrakeClub signup page does not make it obvious that club members are mainly relegated to using bittorrent for "members-only" features.

Re:mandrake vs debian

[Anonymous Coward]

I use debian on systems that i don't touch very often. For workstations, and servers that need latest and greatest, I go with Mandrake.

apt repositories can be slow to be updated, and you have to be setup for unstable to get the latest software (even for security fixes!).

Mandrake's a bit better about getting the latest software available, except that the mirrors can be dodgy at best.

Mandrake is screwing over its own members.

[BrookHarty]

I just signed up for the Standard plan. Now I find out, even though I'm a mandrake club member, I can't download some ISO's. Only Silver and higher can. And the ISO's I get are the public release version. How freaking ABSURD!

I'm calling my credit card and reversing the charges.


The torrent files are ready, silver members and above may download the 3 first ISOs of the PowerPack (PWP) of that release (+ 2 CDs Bonus), standard members may get the 100% GPL 3 ISOs of the download (DLD) edition (+ 1 CD Bonus).
Members with a Gold membership will get the 3 PowerPack+ ISOs and 4 CDs bonus.
Corporate members will also get the DVD ISO of the PowerPack+.

Mandrake

[KaiserZoze_860]

I upgraded to Mandrake 10.0 Community on my laptop about 2 weeks ago. The install was smooth but the touchpad was extremely over sensitive. I had to go back to 9.2. I'm running 10.0 on a desktop/server now and it works great. About the only valid argument against Mandrake would be the size of the install with all those automated goodies. I'll probobly grab the stable 10.0 ISOs once the demand dies down in a month or so.

Right now they are heavily overloaded. As a side note, you can skip by clicking "I'm a community member or plan on joining soon." But I hope you find it worth your while to support Mandrake. A lot of work went into this distro and I'd hate to see them go back into the red.

-KS

Re:ISO

[bcrowell]

As a developer with a package included with Mandrake, at first I felt a little uncomfortable with the idea that I myself had no easy way to download or look at their RPM of my software. (I run FreeBSD, and am not a Mandrake Club member.) But once I stopped and thought about it, it didn't seem like a problem. The GPL says my code is free as in speech, but it doesn't say it has to be free as in beer. The guy who did the packaging was very helpful and responsive on the one occasion when I got in touch with him. (They'd previously packaged a version of my software that I myself hadn't tested carefully enough, and that had a nasty bug.) They're actually doing a more careful job of packaging it and keeping up to date than some other third-party packagers. My attitude at this point is Viva Mandrake! -- Mandrake was the first Linux distro I actually succeeded in installing, and I think they play a valuable role for people who want an OS that Just Works.

That's the BETA dipshit.

[ThoreauHD]

Not to confuse you with the various intricacies of software development, but before software becomes production- it is alpha, beta, and release candidate. Guess which one you were using? Did you report the bugs? Dumbass say what? No.. alrighty then.

Re:Pardon my ignorance,

[imr]

right now, official = community + updates

in a little while, community unfreezes and gets back to be a testing version of the distribution. More stable than cooker, with less experimental stuff, but which could be less stable than the official, since bleeding edge stuff is tested there.

I also remember, that community will produce an official.1 some time in the future, an up to date official version with all updates and more bleeding edge stuff incorporated into it, yet stable, like the 9.2.1 isos that were released some time after the 9.2 release.

Re:Mandrake 10 Sucks (I'm serious!)

[BokLM]

Your comparison between Mandrake 10 Community and Debian Sarge is completly stupid.
The fact that you got some probleme with mdk and everything worked fine on your Debian Sarge does mean it's the case for everybody. I can find people who had no problem installing Mandrake 10 and could not install Sarge.
And KDE running only as root is not the normal behavior, you probably found a bug (or did something wrong), that's what the Community release is for : to help find this kind or bugs.

Re:My Experience with Mandrake 10

[myowntrueself]

So far as I can tell, the main reason for going debian these days (at home and I'm mainly talking about 'workstations') is if you specifically don't want to have your hardware set up for you.

Some people really *do* want to spend all day configuring their NICs, tv tuner cards, soundcards etc. ;-)

Mandrake truly rocks for its automatic hardware detection and configuration.

I am an advanced Linux user. I have been using Linux since 1992. I work as a sysadmin at a web hosting outfit that uses debian almost exclusively.

I use Mandrake at home because I work on computers all day.

When I get home I want my computers to just freaking *work* and not spend all weekend configuring them.

Mandrake is good like that.

Mandrake is not just "great for people new to Linux" its also great for lazy but advanced users like me.

Re:My Experience with Mandrake 10

[Anonymous Coward]

Plus, Mandrake is fast.

Using similar configurations, Mandrake has been consistently >10% faster than Redhat (and now Fedora) on all systems I have installed it on.

While Fedora might take 2 seconds to load the KDE menu, Mandrake opens it instantly. This is running the same kernel version and similar kernel configs.

I've been using Mandrake on and off since the 5.x releases, when it's main feature was the much-hyped Pentium optimizations, and it has consistently been one of the most responsive distros around.

Once every six months or so, I get annoyed with one buggy program or another (I steer clear of the bug-ridden drak tools), or want to try something different, and go back to Fedora, Debian or Slackware, but none of them are as fast as Mandrake.

I use MythTV [mythtv.org] for recording TV shows, and only Gentoo results in lower CPU utilization when recording, and even then, the difference is small when compared to the difference betwen Mandrake and Fedora.

So, I think that Mandrake has received an unjust reputation as a "newbie-only" distro. Over the years, I have tried every other major distro, and only Gentoo matches Mandrake's responsiveness. I don't know what the guys at Mandrake do to make their distro so fast, but whatever it is, I'm happy with it.