Mandrakelinux 10 Official Released 322
boklm writes "Two months after the Mandrakelinux 10.0 Community release, the enhanced and polished 'Mandrakelinux 10.0 Official release' has been announced. Download ISOs are available today for Club members and packs are also avaible on MandrakeStore."
As Shipud puts it, "USB2 support... vive 2.6.3 !!"
Just Installed (Score:5, Informative)
Re:ISO (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Pardon my ignorance, (Score:5, Informative)
but what is the difference between Community and Official?
The Official version is basically the Community version plus a few months worth of updates. Thus, the Official version should have the major errors removed and be Very Stable.
Plus, the Official version is what you get if you want a boxed version.
Re:linux-2.6.5 is the latest, 2.6.4 but not long a (Score:3, Informative)
The problem comes when you rely on the package manager to take care of stuff you ought to take care of yourself (my biggest beef with Gentoo).
My Experience with Mandrake 10 (Score:5, Informative)
1. Install: rocks. Take note Linux Distros, this is how things should happen, enough configuration available, but simple enough to let it go and go watch Family Guy instead.
2. Boot: One major issue, every time I booted it would alternate between thinking my Orinoco gold pcmcia wireless card would be not present, or thing a new one had been put in and try to reinstall it, this was a real pain the in ass, and was the major reason Mandrake 10 got booted for a second time (9.2 is no longer on my good list either) from this laptop. Maybe this distro is just better for desktops.
3. Usage: KDE 3.2 is nice, I like it, but quite frankly, I think I'm still a Gnome person. Also, if all the drak tools worked correctly all the time, I wouldn't have a problem with Mandrake having their config files all over the place, but tweaking config files by hand just isn't a good thing to do with this distro, and therefore some things just don't work properly (drakconnect!).
Overall, Mandrake is a nice distro, and is great for people new to Linux, but for more intermediate and advanced users, there's better things out there. Quite frankly, my laptop runs really really well using Slackware 9.1, Kernel 2.6.5, Dropline Gnome 2.6, and Swaret (using slackware-current) to automate the upgrade process. Yes, you have to get your hands dirty with Slackware sometimes, but at least things work like they're susposed to, and things that aren't there can be easily installed, and personalized shell/perl scripts are finally reality for those who want full control of their machine.
Don't misunderstand me, I think Mandrake has a ton of potential and I really want to see them succeed, it just still needs more polish. But compared to Fedora and SUSE, I think Mandrake is the best jumping in point for users who have never touched Linux before.
Re:Pardon my ignorance, (Score:5, Informative)
Mandrake 10 Sucks (I'm serious!) (Score:1, Informative)
However, root could login, but KDE was behaving very strangly. I even tried to make a couple new accounts to try again with normal users. Still, only root could login to KDE. I then tried to run urmpi so as to update the system, but it only returned cryptic errors.
So I was said to myself "this is crap, next"!
I then decided to give the latest beta of Sarge a try (beta 3). Sure the installer wasn't has pretty looking as Mandrake's, but it was an easy install... and better yet, the resultant install actually worked.
yer really clueless arent you? sheesh... (Score:5, Informative)
try mandrake update. its easy. painless. simple. a monkey could do it.
if yer a little more clueful, try urpmi.
mandrake has all the package managers that redhat has, and all the package managers that gentoo has, and all the package managers that debian has too.
and some more.
get a clue. try it. its easy.
and to those people who say its not stable, wtf are you smoking? can i get some?
mandrake 10 "just works"...
Difference between Community and Official. (Score:3, Informative)
According to the Mandrake Linux Users Club Page [mandrakelinux.com], among other things members of the club are entitled to:
(emphasis in original). Thus it appears that at least one of the differences between Communty and Official is that the latter contains proprietary software and drivers that need not and cannot be distributed pursuant to the GPL or other Open Source license.
Re:ISO (Score:1, Informative)
Re:ISO (Score:2, Informative)
Not the Official edition I'm afraid.
I have a problem with it. (Score:4, Informative)
Is there anybody here from mandrake who can help explain why it appears that those of us who helped bring you out of bankruptcy are suddenly being screwed?
I will be downloading it, but if the web page was correct about this, then I will be canceling the membership and turning 10 families on over to a different distro. Hopefully, it it just a screw up in how things are presented.
Re:I have a problem with it. (Score:3, Informative)
Re:I have a problem with it. (Score:5, Informative)
I think you are misinformed in some way. What webpage did you read this?
The official release is actually community with updates, and carries the same. If you have the commercial version (from club, mandrakestore or boxed set) it also includes ati and nvidia drivers, and some other commercial software. So if you are a silver member, you should be able to put your hands on these commercial cd's of the official release.
Re:Mandrake is screwing over its own members. (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Mandrake is screwing over its own members. (Score:3, Informative)
I just signed up for the Standard plan. Now I find out, even though I'm a mandrake club member, I can't download some ISO's. Only Silver and higher can. And the ISO's I get are the public release version. How freaking ABSURD!
Being a member means you get releases sooner, and you get better access to updated packages and custom packages. Generally speaking they only release bugfixes publically. Members get "real" upgraded packages.
The main reason to be a member is to give something back. Free software may be free, but there is nothing wrong with pitching in some cash to help out.
Re:I have a problem with it. (Score:3, Informative)
Here is the sites comparisions. [mandrakesoft.com]
Here is the official club day [mandrakeclub.com]
And here is from my e-mail:
- Silver Members and above: Immediate access to 5 Mandrakelinux 10.0
Official PowerPack CD ISO images which includes three Install CDs plus
two additional CDs of extra applications
- Gold Members and above: Immediate access to 7 Mandrakelinux 10.0
Official PowerPack+ CD ISO images which includes three Install CDs
plus four additional CDs of extra applications. This offer includes the Kolab groupware server.
It sounds like gold gets the power-pack+ while silver is simply the desktop version of power pack. Where am I wrong on all this?
Re:Pardon my French but (Score:3, Informative)
Ofcourse you can go with the free download and install those drivers yourself.
Re:Mandrake is screwing over its own members. (Score:1, Informative)
Please go back and check the links (official is a couple of lines below community on the mdk club torrent page).
Also, please double check these things before coming with these serious (and unfounded IMO) allegations.
TORRENT (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Huh?! (Score:2, Informative)
Update procedure (Score:4, Informative)
software needs to be installed... (Score:3, Informative)
hmmm... did you just try to install the packages first ? There is no such thing as a "desktop" distro or a "server" distro for Mandrake...
Ok, you need to check the group of packages saying "Databases" to have the databases (like postgres) installed, it may not install MySQL by default, but if you go in your Mandrake Control Center, you can actually install that software (it even tells you which cd to install).
By the way, software works better if installed... ;-)
And I'm using a Mdk 10.0 Community to tell you this (yes, I have mysql, apache, .... all installed).
Re:Difference between Community and Official. (Score:2, Informative)
Not quite. There are two "editions" of both Community and Official, the Download edition (available to everyone) and the Powerpack edition (only available to silver members and above, and contaning the proprietary software you mentioned). So everyone will be able to get Community Download and Official Download (in a few weeks), but only silver members and above can get Community Powerpack and Official Powerpack.
As others have pointed out, the difference between Community and Official is that Community was released as a kind of final, final release candidate, and once Mandrake were happy, they then released Official.
Re:Torrent (Score:2, Informative)