Mandrakelinux 10.0 Community is Available 348
joestar writes "The new 'Mandrake Linux 10.0 Community' release has just been announced. It provides many new features including Linux 2.6.3, MagicDev, KDE 3.2, GNOME 2.4, a new Mandrakeonline service and others. Download ISOs are available through torrent for Club Members and 10.0 developers. A 10.0 DVD is also available at MandrakeStore. This a first step for this new exciting Mandrake, because in May, an Official version will appear, and both versions will officially be supported. Happy downloads!"
Too many linux distros (Score:-1, Insightful)
Namechange? (Score:4, Insightful)
We had an article on
Is this now resolved?
David
Re:Too many linux distros (Score:4, Insightful)
There aren't 10 or 20 distros, there are hundreds, perhaps thousands, and the reason there's so many is because different people want different things, for example Debian is better at running webservers on than Mandrake. If the two distros were spliced together, the package would be much bigger, and most people would only use half of it anyway.
Re:The All New Mandrake 10! (Score:3, Insightful)
I will; Mandrake 10.0 is the only distro that I know of that has 2.6 support right out of the box.
Re:Too many linux distros (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Too many linux distros (Score:5, Insightful)
Another way to look at it is from a project management standpoint: adding new bodies to a project does not mean the project will progress faster or improve. In fact, more bodies can actually *decrease* productivity. So, "focusing" all that effort into just one or two projects may not be an effective way to make use of resources.
Lastly, don't forget, competition is a key to innovation. Having various distros competing for market share means they'll compete, and cooperate, meaing a better result for everyone. How can this be bad?
This is a strength! (Score:5, Insightful)
We don't need less distros, we need some idea of continuity between them using standards, such as:
-Standard packaging system (no more
-Standard directory structure
There are some others, but these are the major two. More distros = good, but lets try to package them all similarly, please!
Re:Too many linux distros (Score:4, Insightful)
Where can we draw the line? In my opinion 100/1000 distros is unimaginable. 10 is not that bad a number.
S
Re:Namechange? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Too many linux distros (Score:4, Insightful)
One would think, but for the most part I haven't really noticed that in the Linux community. Each distro seems to focus all their effort into their own implementation of the basic "distro toolset" (Installer, disk partitioning, system management, control panel, etc.) I think it would benefit the community as a whole to be able to take these components and be able to add them to the distro of your choice. For example, one thing I really love about Mandrake is the graphical disk utility, DiskDrake. I think it beats the pants off everything else out there for Linux. Is it possible to get this running easily on another distribution? Doubtful.
I applaud the work that the Debian (or was it Progeny) team has done to try using Red Hat's Anaconda installer system to install Debian. I hope to see more projects like this in the future.
Re:Where can non club members get it? (Score:3, Insightful)
If you absolutely can't wait a week...pay them money. They deserve it.
Re:Read/Write Support for NTFS? (Score:2, Insightful)
Last time i checked, the NTFS write support was not mature enough to be used fulltime. Has anyone used this? Is the write support completely reliable?
I couldn't say for sure how Mandrake is doing it, but there is fully functional ntfs read/write support out there: Captive NTFS [jankratochvil.net]
Re:PPC? (Score:3, Insightful)
Dont tell me what OS to run, I will run what I feel fits my needs.
Re:Too many linux distros (Score:3, Insightful)
How so? Any stats? Seriously, I would think that depends on hardware more than anything else (assuming you're running Apache).
Re:Too many linux distros (Score:3, Insightful)
Joe User wants his OS to do everything well and intuitively, not just one or two things.
....no way... (Score:4, Insightful)
C'mon. seriously. Nothing is every bug free. That's just insane. Nothing, especially something as complicated as an ENTIRE OPERATING SYSTEM, is every completely, 100% bug free. That's just rediculous.
Part of the problem MDK has been having, and that their new release system is trying to fix, is that they have a substantially large user/tester ratio. In other words, too many users for the people who are willing to test. A release can go through forty betas and 10 RC's, and fix ALL reported bugs. But without good testers, it will ship and millions of bugs will be found because there wasn't a good variance of testers.
People expect their software to "just work". But without a lot of testing in a million configurations (especially as current and fast advancing as Mandrake is) that's difficult. Probably impossible.
Re:Too many linux distros (Score:2, Insightful)
If we were to somehow shut down all the projects and only let the top three survive in the name of "concentrating efforts"...then we wouldn't be allowing users to do whatever they want with their software.
It doesn't need justification. It's the way it is, there's nothing to be done about it, and it's distro-makers' right. If they want to customize their Os for their needs, and publish it online in case other people happen to like the same things -- how does that harm anyone?
Re:wasn't there only 1 RC before the final? (Score:3, Insightful)
But that release will be no different if no one WANTS to test this one. It's one thing about whining about waiting for something you don't want to code on or patch, it's another when you don't even want to put in the time to report bugs.
Re:Ultima (Score:3, Insightful)
CB
Bummer - Miss Gnome 2.6 (Score:1, Insightful)
- new (innovative) file selector
- new spatial nautilus + faster
- click on a device to mount its filesystem and open a window automatically
- other cool stuff
It's not as if Gnome's release schedule is a secret. Good thing I use that crappy distro called Gentoo that's only used by people who can't use their computer during compiling (because multi-tasking doesn't work in Linux of course, particularly with 2.6 kernels) because I've been trying Gnome in the 2.5.x developer series and it's cool.
Of course, if you like the pimped up NOS/wing/racing stripes on a Honda Civic look and "customizability" of KDE... enjoy.
buy video drivers? (Score:2, Insightful)