Microsoft, Monocultures, Security FUD & Other Fun

Microsoft, Monocultures, Security FUD & Other Fun 509

Posted by Hemos on Monday February 16, 2004 @09:46AM from the starting-the-morning-with-coffee-and-flame dept.

techiemac writes "Dan Geer, who has been mentioned on Slashdot before due to his warnings about Microsoft's "monoculture" has just been written up by AP for his warnings about the widespread use of Microsoft products and the serious security flaws that are being discovered. This story is quickly becomming big news (Yahoo is currently carrying it on their front page). For those who don't know, Dan Greer was fired from @Stake Inc for his criticism of Microsoft (they are a big client of @Stake Inc). " Somewhat related, there has been interesting reaction pieces on ORA and OSDN to a recent, some say ill-informed article run on DevX.

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MS Open Source Is Fertile Ground for Foul Play (Score:5, Funny)

by anandpur ( 303114 ) writes: on Monday February 16, 2004 @09:49AM (#8293123)

Now part of MS Windows source code is open on Internet so is "MS Open Source Is Fertile Ground for Foul Play"

I guess ... (Score:5, Funny)

by fewnorms ( 630720 ) writes: on Monday February 16, 2004 @09:51AM (#8293132)

... the old adage "No one ever got fired for choosing Microsoft" is true after all. Look what happens when you actually try speaking ill of the beast...

Once... (Score:5, Funny)

by flewp ( 458359 ) writes: on Monday February 16, 2004 @09:54AM (#8293148)

Once I thought I had mono. They took a culture and it turns out I just had Windows.

Great Microsoft quote (Score:5, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday February 16, 2004 @09:58AM (#8293178)

"Once you start down the road with that analogy, you get stuck in it," said Scott Charney, chief security strategist for Redmond, Wash.-based Microsoft.

One you start down the road with it, you get stuck in it. Sounds like a perfect description of the lock-in aspects of their products, though I think "Roach Motels for your data" is catchier.

One word... (Score:3, Funny)

by snake_dad ( 311844 ) writes: on Monday February 16, 2004 @10:01AM (#8293199) Homepage Journal

Clippy!

Re:Rememebr folsk the def for monoculture (Score:1, Funny)

by Yaa 101 ( 664725 ) writes: on Monday February 16, 2004 @10:04AM (#8293217) Journal

Now only a spell checker...

Sorry i could not resist...

Re:Interesting spin ... (Score:5, Funny)

by gmuslera ( 3436 ) * writes: on Monday February 16, 2004 @10:04AM (#8293219) Homepage Journal

Antivirus could be considered an information related technology?. All a market that could been starving and barely advanced without the gentle Microsoft colaboration.

Re:Open for exploit (Score:5, Funny)

by Spacejock ( 727523 ) writes: on Monday February 16, 2004 @10:05AM (#8293226)

So, what you're saying is that Debian Potato is a bad idea?

cant deny msoft does good things also (Score:2, Funny)

by earthstar ( 748263 ) writes: on Monday February 16, 2004 @10:05AM (#8293229) Journal

dont u think , despite the security flaws ,msoft in a way helping the big inet with their products (in a small / big way).Can anything in this be 100% Good--without error /mistake? i think mistakes and flaws happen every where-from cars,govts etc

Re:Rememebr folsk the def for monoculture (Score:5, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday February 16, 2004 @10:05AM (#8293230)

Clippy: "It looks like you are trying to write..."

Re:Interesting spin ... (Score:1, Funny)

by ab762 ( 138582 ) writes: on Monday February 16, 2004 @10:15AM (#8293293) Homepage

Yeah, without Microsoft products, Al Gore couldn't have invented the internet.

Re:MS Open Source Is Fertile Ground for Foul Play (Score:5, Funny)

by tuba_dude ( 584287 ) writes: <tuba.terry@gmail.com> on Monday February 16, 2004 @10:17AM (#8293308) Homepage Journal

I don't mean to put too much of a damper on this intellegent discussion, but I really enjoy the association of Windows' source code with a car wreck.

Re:The real problem is... (Score:5, Funny)

by tverbeek ( 457094 ) writes: on Monday February 16, 2004 @10:23AM (#8293349) Homepage

when was the last time you used WordPerfect on your PC?
(At the risk of being modded -1, Overly-Literal)
10:37pm, yesterday.

Big News... (Score:2, Funny)

by Peden ( 753161 ) writes: on Monday February 16, 2004 @10:34AM (#8293427) Homepage

Since when was big news defined by Yahoo bringing it on their front page?

Re:Fan-Out is the Killer (Score:4, Funny)

by goon america ( 536413 ) writes: on Monday February 16, 2004 @10:48AM (#8293573) Homepage Journal

It's not just monoculture that makes viruses spread so quickly.
It's Outlook. (Only about 30% joking)

Comment removed (Score:4, Funny)

by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) writes: on Monday February 16, 2004 @10:56AM (#8293638)

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Re:MS Open Source Is Fertile Ground for Foul Play (Score:2, Funny)

by cybergrue ( 696844 ) writes: on Monday February 16, 2004 @10:58AM (#8293652)

It would be quite difficult for MS to "prove" that any given developer had seen the purloined source
Simple, they could borrow a trick from SCO and say "It would be impossible for the FOSS developer to do X unless they had seen the M$ code." Unlike SCO, MS will have competent lawyers backed by even more money.

I love microsoft (Score:5, Funny)

by BoomerSooner ( 308737 ) writes: on Monday February 16, 2004 @11:18AM (#8293819) Homepage Journal

They keep all the focus on hacking their POS operating system and help my mac and linux servers avoid the amount of attacks that would happen if they didn't exist.

MS is a competitive advantaget to those that compete with vendors providing MS based services. BTW my company does have MS servers, Linux servers and we are testing some new OS X server implementations to see if we can eliminate some of our admin tasks with their slick UI & tools.

Re:I hope he's wrong ... (Score:2, Funny)

by Glytch ( 4881 ) writes: on Monday February 16, 2004 @12:00PM (#8294248)

Please let me know the general geographical area where you work, so that I can plan future vacations accordingly by not venturing anywhere within a thousand kilometers.

Thank you.

Monoculture (Score:1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Monday February 16, 2004 @12:38PM (#8294668)

If monoculture is such a bad thing, why are people so supportive of "write once run anywhere" Java?

Re:"Big News" Fueled by a Slashdotting? (Score:3, Funny)

by rixstep ( 611236 ) writes: on Monday February 16, 2004 @08:04PM (#8299531) Homepage

Now, that didn't happen in this case, as the story was already on the front page before Slashdot linked it. But it could happen, no?

No. By contract with the OSDN, /. is exempt from the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle.

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MS Open Source Is Fertile Ground for Foul Play (Score:5, Funny)

I guess ... (Score:5, Funny)

Once... (Score:5, Funny)

Great Microsoft quote (Score:5, Funny)

One word... (Score:3, Funny)

Re:Rememebr folsk the def for monoculture (Score:1, Funny)

Re:Interesting spin ... (Score:5, Funny)

Re:Open for exploit (Score:5, Funny)

cant deny msoft does good things also (Score:2, Funny)

Re:Rememebr folsk the def for monoculture (Score:5, Funny)

Re:Interesting spin ... (Score:1, Funny)

Re:MS Open Source Is Fertile Ground for Foul Play (Score:5, Funny)

Re:The real problem is... (Score:5, Funny)

Big News... (Score:2, Funny)

Re:Fan-Out is the Killer (Score:4, Funny)

Comment removed (Score:4, Funny)

Re:MS Open Source Is Fertile Ground for Foul Play (Score:2, Funny)

I love microsoft (Score:5, Funny)

Re:I hope he's wrong ... (Score:2, Funny)

Monoculture (Score:1, Funny)

Re:"Big News" Fueled by a Slashdotting? (Score:3, Funny)

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