Knoppix 3.3 Update, 3.4 C't Edition Are Out 269
hkfczrqj writes "Knoppix has two more children. The first, 3.3-2004-02-09, an update with kernel 2.4-24-xfs, KDE 3.1.5, Mozilla 1.6, XFree 3.4. Also, and more important I guess, Knoppix 3.4 c't edition is out (torrent here). It is supposed to have kernel 2.6!" And it does. If you're looking for a way to test your setup with a 2.6 kernel without trashing a current install, this is a good way -- but note that the ct edition Knoppix boots into German (Shift-0 gets you an =, as in "lang=us") and kernel 2.4; you'll need to type "knoppix26" at startup to boot the new kernel. (You may find the excellent forums at knoppix.net helpful, too.) Update: 02/10 01:03 GMT by T : Note that the XFree version is really 4.3, not 3.4.
Great tool (Score:3, Interesting)
Upgrade HD-Install? (Score:3, Interesting)
Is there a CD distro like this for PowerPC? (Score:5, Interesting)
But the Mac is a production machine for me, it would be bad to have something like filesystem corruption happen. It would be great if I could test it with a distro like Knoppix, but I would need it to have all powerpc binaries.
Is there such a beast?
knoppix conviced this windows guy to cross over (Score:2, Interesting)
Also (not so new) ... The Knoppix New York Edition (Score:5, Interesting)
On Klaus Knopper's visit to New York City. He made a special edition of the distro just for New York's LUG [nylug.org]. You will have to find a link of it on your own (being that it will cost some poor LUGer money for the bandwidth, heh)
What a man! He really is a nice guy! We sure were thrilled and happy
Sunny Dubey
iswraid (Score:3, Interesting)
I would check but their forums are kind of slow right now for some reason
LW.
No NTFS Write Support.... (Score:1, Interesting)
Here's your answer: corrupt filesystems (Score:5, Interesting)
While I'm sure you can see how buggy filesystem code might cause this, perhaps you don't see how this could happen from any code in the kernel at all.
Well, one way is for a pointer error in, say, a network driver to overwrite some disk data buffers with random garbage. Then the data gets saved to disk.
I've read of this happening on the linux-kernel list.
Even journaling filesystems won't help for this. While journals can protect against power loss or crashes, the filesystems do make the assumption that any metadata committed to disk is correct.
What About.... (Score:3, Interesting)
The lineup is nearly complete... (Score:5, Interesting)
Now we've got the following live CDs:
- Knoppix; perfect geek distro, just about every geek tool in one place. The Swiss Army knife distro
- Mepis; excellent end-user distro, exactly the Linux distro for mum and dad
- Morphix; customisable distro, put whatever you want on it
IMHO, the missing one is the "live server" CD. You boot from this and you get Linux servers, not workstation tools. It should have the following features:
- stable/testing versions of all common servers (e.g. Apache, Postgres, MySQL, Zope, iptables, sshd, Postfix, courier-pop, Samba,
- support for all the server-class hardware out there (e.g. RAID cards, SCSI/SATA discs, etc.)
- when booted from CD, all servers are enabled but discs aren't mounted by default. You can have a play around with it, but you have to go out of your way to hurt yourself
- when booted from disc, all servers are disabled but all discs are mounted. Login for the first time as root and you get asked "Which of the following services would you like to enable?"...
- best-of-class GUI config tools for the servers for both Windows and Linux. Once you've installed the server, you then use the tools on the CD on a workstation to configure it
- tools to migrate existing data from proprietary solutions (e.g. email and mailing lists from MS Exchange, ). These could run on client workstations rather than on the server, if required; obviously they wouldn't automate the migration, but anything that could reduce the workload would be worth considering
- support for reading/writing configurations to USB key. Installs can run unattended using configs stored on the USB key. This would allow you to install fleets of identical servers (e.g. Web farm) quickly
I'm sure there's other requirements you could come up with, but this would let you quickly put an entire data centre together. MS in particular would find it hard to compete with this.
Re:Knoppix!! (Score:5, Interesting)
And for those wondering why debian just doesnt switch to using knoppix as the installer instead of d-i? The main problem with debian is that they thankfully have chosen to support 11 different archs. That means that they need an installer that will install on all those archs and that is a pretty hard task. Also they support installs over a serial port, tftp, cdroms, and bacically anything that the computer will boot off of and load a kernel. That is definately a good thing when your trying to get debian installed on a machine several hundred miles away from you.
Re:gigabit speed download location for 3.4 here (Score:4, Interesting)
Nice visualization of the /. effect. Daily graph explodes at posting time of parent ;-)
Re:The lineup is nearly complete... (Score:3, Interesting)
You need some sort of script to remove that stuff, but there's (from memory) about 1000 packages that get written to disc when you install Knoppix from a CD, and it seems a bit silly to install that many then delete 90% of them. The risks of screwing up somewhere would be too high.
Responding to my own earlier suggestion, maybe a better overall approach would be to install an absolute bare-bones system via a "Knoppix server" CD, then have scripts on that CD to add a whole bunch of server packages from that same CD. You'd want both a GUI and a "scriptable via USB key" way of selecting which packages to install, followed by "Do you wish to download and install security updates?" at the very end of the process.
Re:No NTFS Write Support.... (Score:4, Interesting)
Sebastian
Re:Apt-get (Score:2, Interesting)
Anyway, back to your regularly scheduled
Re:The lineup is nearly complete... (Score:3, Interesting)
The first time I read your post I went into security paranoia mode thinking about a Debian/testing flavor of KNOPPIX with all services running on startup. I also couldn't figure out why someone would really need a LiveCD server daemon.
But your idea is a tool for someone who wants a turnkey web server, for example. That could be very useful. Turnkey DHCP server, turnkey Samba server, turnkey proxy server, turnkey caching DNS server, turnkey NAT (okay, CoyoteLinux has that covered), turnkey LDAP address server...I'm starting to think of places these things could be useful both as LiveCD ad-hoc temporary configurations and as 'permanently' installed configurations.
I'm interested now. I think I might know enough to be able to figure out how to put something like that together. I'll just need someone who can create the cool distro graphics