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Is the SCO Lawsuit a Good Thing for Linux? 422

Jack William Bell writes "The National Post is running an essay by Wynn Quon entitled 'Linux's lucky lawsuit'. In it Quon claims that (A) SCO is going to lose (saying ". . . SCO is a toad about to face a steamroller.") and (B) the Linux community needs exactly this kind of 'inoculation' as the OS moves from a hobbyist platform to a real business tool. Good analysis or unwarranted optimism?"
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Is the SCO Lawsuit a Good Thing for Linux?

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  • by mvh ( 9295 ) on Saturday August 09, 2003 @02:52PM (#6655670) Homepage
    As a Utah native, this SCO fiasco is just one of a plethora of evil things which surround this evil place. Discrimination runs rampant here, stupid capitalism runs unchecked and worst of all, Mormonism is alive and well (with correlations between depression and suicide rates). Are all these evils coincidence or is Utah simply a den of iniquity? screw SCO and screw Utah. SCO's PR machine probably gets it's method from the LDS church's PR machine. What an evil, evil place. I need to move away.
  • Bad news... (Score:4, Funny)

    by John3 ( 85454 ) <john3NO@SPAMcornells.com> on Saturday August 09, 2003 @02:53PM (#6655676) Homepage Journal
    In the short term the lawsuit is bad news. What company is going to roll-out an operating system when there is a lawsuit hanging over it?

    Oh wait, are we talking about Windows?
  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 09, 2003 @02:55PM (#6655691)
    "What makes the SCO action the ideal first-time lawsuit for Linux is this: First, it is directed at IBM rather than directly at Linux customers. This means there is no immediate threat against the deployment and continuing use of Linux."

    Then the $699 USD SCO is extorting from the users must be the co-pay. I love HMO's
  • by ReciprocityProject ( 668218 ) on Saturday August 09, 2003 @02:57PM (#6655702) Homepage Journal
    Linux was born out of a warm and fuzzy let's-work-together idealism that is typical of all open-source projects.

    What about the hot and bothered let's-rip-his-spine-out-of-his-back and beat-him-with-it rage that is typical of all open-source developers when some -1 troll makes a kind comment about [insert closed-source platform here]?

    Speaking as an open source developer, of course.
  • ObSimpsons (Score:3, Funny)

    by Feztaa ( 633745 ) on Saturday August 09, 2003 @03:00PM (#6655718) Homepage
    Homer: "Lisa, facts don't mean anything! You can use them to prove anything that's even remotely true!"
  • by corby ( 56462 ) * on Saturday August 09, 2003 @03:01PM (#6655722)
    Your mom was Frederick Nietzsche?

    Ewww, that's worse than that whole 'Who is Cartman's Mom?' plotline.
  • by borg ( 95568 ) on Saturday August 09, 2003 @03:12PM (#6655777)

    Hey, has it crossed anyone's mind that maybe IBM is bankrolling SCO's linux suit?

    Ok, it's a but far fetched. But the more I think about it, the more diabolically plausible it seems:

    1. What kind of moron would lead their puny little tech company into direct confrontation with the IBM behemoth? Counterargument: morons do exist.
    2. GPL uncertainties are being exploited by the old guard proprietary software companies (read: Microsoft)
    3. Every one in the linux camp has been looking for a GPL test case

    What if some Machivellian genius at IBM is orchestrating this? Every day SCO seems more and more like some absurd character from an anti-capitalist farce. What a beautiful test case. They are absolutely unsympathetic as an antagonist. IBM has a flawless legal department. This has none of the ambiguity of the 2600 or Jon cases. How much did IBM spend painting "peace, love, linux" through NYC? How much would it take to buy of a couple of smarmy executives from a failing tech company? (or maybe it was the threat of releasing those compromising pics from the latest NAMBLA rally?)

    And Boies? Maybe he's still sore at Microsoft for the de facto loss in the anti-trust case. Maybe he's deep cover for the penguinistas, out for blood in a scorched earth campaign against the Redmond giant.

    Think on this: IBM didn't have to include a mention of the GPL in their counter suit. There's enough of an argument in the rest of the brief to shut SCO up and shut them down. The GPL could conceivable hurt IBM in the future if they want to pull shennanigans with the linux codebase in the future. This GPL mention has the potential of being and incredible gift to the community.

    Ok. I'll go re-fold my tinfoil hat. 20 years from now when the truth comes out, remember you heard it from me first.

  • by Chris_Mir ( 679740 ) on Saturday August 09, 2003 @03:20PM (#6655807)
    what will become of Slashdot, when all this is over? Would it survive 50% less articles? And what about all the readers, who have to go to the psychiatrist.
    I mean, this is addictive stuff, dude! I dont wanna go cold turkey! :p
  • HELP NEEDED (Score:5, Funny)

    by friday2k ( 205692 ) on Saturday August 09, 2003 @03:44PM (#6655904)
    DEAR SIR/MADAM:

    I AM MR. DARL MCBRIDE CURRENTLY SERVING AS THE PRESIDENT AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF THE SCO GROUP, FORMERLY KNOWN AS CALDERA SYSTEMS INTERNATIONAL, IN LINDON, UTAH, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. I KNOW THIS LETTER MIGHT SURPRISE YOUR BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD NO PREVIOUS COMMUNICATIONS OR BUSINESS DEALINGS BEFORE NOW.

    MY ASSOCIATES HAVE RECENTLY MADE CLAIM TO COMPUTER SOFTWARES WORTH AN ESTIMATED $1 BILLION U.S. DOLLARS. I AM WRITING TO YOU IN CONFIDENCE BECAUSE WE URGENTLY REQUIRE YOUR ASSISTANCE TO OBTAIN THESE FUNDS.

    IN THE EARLY 1970S THE AMERICAN TELEPHONE AND TELEGRAPH CORPORATION DEVELOPED AT GREAT EXPENSE THE COMPUTER OPERATING SYSTEM SOFTWARE KNOWN AS UNIX. UNFORTUNATELY THE LAWS OF MY COUNTRY PROHIBITED THEM FROM SELLING THESE SOFTWARES AND SO THEIR VALUABLE SOURCE CODES REMAINED PRIVATELY HELD. UNDER A SPECIAL ARRANGMENT SOME PROGRAMMERS FROM THE CALIFORNIA UNIVERSITY OF BERKELEY DID ADD MORE CODES TO THIS OPERATING SYSTEM, INCREASING ITS VALUE, BUT NOT IN ANY WAY TO DILUTE OR DISPARAGE OUR FULL AND RIGHTFUL OWNERSHIP OF THESE CODES, DESPITE ANY AGREEMENT BETWEEN AMERICAN TELEPHONE AND TELEGRAPH AND THE CALIFORNIA UNIVERSITY OF BERKELEY, WHICH AGREEMENT WE DENY AND DISAVOW.

    IN THE YEAR 1984 A CHANGE OF REGIME IN MY COUNTRY ALLOWED THE AMERICAN TELEPHONE AND TELEGRAPH CORPORATION TO MAKE PROFITS FROM THESE SOFTWARES.

    IN THE YEAR 1990 OWNERSHIP OF THESE SOFTWARES WAS TRANSFERRED TO THE CORPORATION UNIX SYSTEM LABORATORIES. IN THE YEAR 1993 THIS CORPORATION WAS SOLD TO THE CORPORATION NOVELL. IN THE YEAR 1994 SOME EMPLOYEES OF

    NOVELL FORMED THE CORPORATION CALDERA SYSTEMS INTERNATIONAL, WHICH

    BEGAN TO DISTRIBUTE AN UPSTART OPERATING SYSTEM KNOWN AS LINUX. IN THE YEAR 1995 NOVELL SOLD THE UNIX SOFTWARE CODES TO SCO. IN THE YEAR 2001 OCCURRED A SEPARATION OF SCO, AND THE SCO BRAND NAME AND UNIX CODES WERE ACQUIRED BY THE CALDERA SYSTEMS INTERNATIONAL, AND IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR THE CALDERA SYSTEMS INTERNATIONAL WAS RENAMED SCO GROUP, OF WHICH I CURRENTLY SERVE AS CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER.

    MY ASSOCIATES AND I OF THE SCO GROUP ARE THEREFORE THE FULL AND RIGHTFUL OWNERS OF THE OPERATING SYSTEM SOFTWARES KNOWN AS UNIX. OUR ENGINEERS HAVE DISCOVERED THAT NO FEWER THAN SEVENTY (70) LINES OF OUR VALUABLE AND PROPRIETARY SOURCE CODES HAVE APPEARED IN THE UPSTART OPERATING SYSTEM LINUX. AS YOU CAN PLAINLY SEE, THIS GIVES US A CLAIM ON THE MILLIONS OF LINES OF VALUABLE SOFTWARE CODES WHICH COMPRISE THIS LINUX AND WHICH HAS BEEN SOLD AT GREAT PROFIT TO VERY MANY BUSINESS ENTERPRISES. OUR LEGAL EXPERTS HAVE ADVISED US THAT OUR CONTRIBUTION TO THESE CODES IS WORTH AN ESTIMATED ONE (1) BILLION U.S. DOLLARS.

    UNFORTUNATELY WE ARE HAVING DIFFICULTY EXTRACTING OUR FUNDS FROM THESE COMPUTER SOFTWARES. TO THIS EFFECT I HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE MANDATE BY MY COLLEAGUES TO CONTACT YOU AND ASK FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE. WE ARE PREPARED TO SELL YOU A SHARE IN THIS ENTERPRISE, WHICH WILL SOON BE VERY PROFITABLE, THAT WILL GRANT YOU THE RIGHTS TO USE THESE VAULABLE SOFTWARES IN YOUR BUSINESS ENTERPRISE. UNFORTUNATELY WE ARE NOT ABLE AT THIS TIME TO SET A PRICE ON THESE RIGHTS. THEREFORE IT IS OUR RESPECTFUL SUGGESTION, THAT YOU MAY BE IMMEDIATELY A PARTY TO THIS ENTERPRISE, BEFORE OTHERS ACCEPT THESE LUCRATIVE TERMS, THAT YOU SEND US THE NUMBER OF A BANKING ACCOUNT WHERE WE CAN WITHDRAW FUNDS OF A SUITABLE AMOUNT TO GUARANTEE YOUR PARTICIPATION IN THIS ENTERPRISE. AS AN ALTERNATIVE YOU MAY SEND US THE NUMBER AND EXPIRATION DATE OF YOUR MAJOR CREDIT CARD, OR YOU MAY SEND TO US A SIGNED CHECK FROM YOUR BANKING ACCOUNT PAYABLE TO "SCO GROUP" AND WITH THE AMOUNT LEFT BLANK FOR US TO CONVENIENTLY SUPPLY.

    KINDLY TREAT THIS REQUEST AS VERY IMPORTANT AND STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL. I HONESTLY ASSURE YOU THAT THIS TRANSACTION IS 100% LEGAL AND RISK-FREE.
  • OUTRAGE!!! (Score:2, Funny)

    by DorkHead ( 696720 ) on Saturday August 09, 2003 @03:55PM (#6655963)
    In it Quon claims that [...] ". . . SCO is a toad about to face a steamroller."

    On behalf of the International Association of Toads I have to file a complaint regarding the comparison between Toads and SCO.
    Does this man? [yerhost.com]look like a toad to you?
  • by njdj ( 458173 ) on Saturday August 09, 2003 @05:21PM (#6656309)
    The article compares SCO to a toad. This is irresponsible, yellow journalism.

    It's true that many species of toad are poisonous and cause hundreds of deaths in the USA every year. But compared with SCO, they are harmless, benign creatures which have an unfairly bad image.

    Comparing toads with SCO will worsen the already-negative image which people have of toads. Let's not forget that some toad species are endangered. They don't need the hostility by association which this irresponsible article will provoke.
  • by The Monster ( 227884 ) on Saturday August 09, 2003 @05:54PM (#6656465) Homepage
    evolved into a case about the GPL, probably due to MS's insistence
    Yep. MS wants to paint this picture of the GPL. They'll spin it like Professor Harold Hill himself...

    Well, ya got trouble, my friend.
    Right here, I say trouble right here in Silicon Valley
    Why, sure, we're a software company
    Certainly mighty proud to say,
    I'm always mighty proud to say it
    I consider the hours we spend with code on our screens are golden
    Help you cultivate horse sense and a cool head and a keen eye
    Didja ever take an' try an' give an iron clad leave
    to yourself from Scalable Multiprocessing?
    But just as I say it takes judgement, brains and maturity
    to test and debug Enterprise Software with full Code Review
    I say that any boob can take and shove C source in the GCC compiler
    And I call that sloth,
    the first big step on the road to the depths of degreda-
    I say, first- medicinal wine from a teaspoon,
    then beer from a bottle
    And the next thing you know your son is hackin'
    Distributed Denial of Service Attacks.
    and listenin' to some big pseudonymous script kiddie
    Hear him tell about mp3 downloadin'
    Not a wholesome CD, no, but a compressed
    format where the entire _player_ can be smaller than the smallest disk.
    Like to hear some disposable Ko-rean hardware playin' Mozart?
    Make your blood boil, well I should say
    Now, folks, let me show you what I mean
    You got zero, through twelve - that's THIRTEEN terms and conditions in the 'Public License'.
    Terms that mark the difference between a gentleman and a bum
    With a capital 'B' and that rhymes with 'G' and that stands for 'GNU'

    And all week long, your Silicon Valley programmers'll be fritterin' away
    I say, your coders'll be fritterin'
    Fritterin' away their noontime, suppertime, WORKtime, too
    Run the code through the compiler
    Never mind gettin' Digital Rights Management implemented or the security holes in Outlook patched
    or Total Information Awareness connected
    Never mind filing for any patents 'til the software industry is caught
    with an IP portfolio empty and no one to sue and that's trouble
    Oh, ya got lots and lots o' trouble
    I'm thinkin' of the kids in the cargo pants,
    young ones learnin to install Linux on their Game Boys after school
    Ya got trouble, folks, right here in Silicon Valley
    with a capital 'T' and that rhymes with 'G' and that stands for 'GNU'

    Oh, we got trouble
    Right here in Silicon Valley
    Right here in Silicon Valley
    With a capital 'T' and that rhymes with 'G'
    That stands for 'GNU'
    We surely got trouble
    We surely got trouble
    Right here in Silicon Valley
    Right here

    Gotta figure out a way to keep customers
    paying dues
    . . .

  • by belroth ( 103586 ) on Saturday August 09, 2003 @06:55PM (#6656747)
    To me it seems more like 'SCO is playing russian roullette
    (sic) with 5 chambers loaded and only one chamber empty'.
    What do you mean there's an empty chamber?
    I thought they were playing Russian roulette with an automatic...
  • by belroth ( 103586 ) on Saturday August 09, 2003 @07:03PM (#6656774)
    Linux was born out of a warm and fuzzy let's-work-together idealism that is typical of all open-source projects.

    What about the hot and bothered let's-rip-his-spine-out-of-his-back and beat-him-with-it rage that is typical of all open-source developers when some -1 troll makes a kind comment about [insert closed-source platform here]?

    Well, I wonder whether Wynn Quon prefers vi or emacs ?

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