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How SCO Helped Linux Go Enterprise 386

Posted by timothy
from the giveth-and-taketh-away dept.
An anonymous reader submits: "SCO may now have filed for UNIX copyrights and made various allegations about code-copying, but the actual complaint against IBM still seems to be focused around allegations UNIX-based enterprise technologies (such as RCU, JFS and SMP) being improperly added to Linux. Yet, reviewing the Linux kernel archives reveals some interesting and surprising background on just who helped put these technologies into Linux. PJ's GROKLAW blog has uncovered that 'Caldera Employee Was Key Linux Kernel Contributor,' including what looks like a lot of work on the early stages of JFS. The same employee's name also crops up when we look at RCU. When IBM posts RCU improvements, did he complain? No, he requests further improvements even helpfully providing a link to inspire the IBMer!"

"Lastly, definitely worth reading, Alan Cox on Linux SMP. He says that got he ideas from a book (which presumably can't be somebody's trade secret), invented his own implementation, and did this using hardware provided by Caldera (SCO themselves do acknowledge providing hardware to the Linux SMP team)." The article points out of Christof Hellwig (the Caldera-employed kernel contributor) that "He's likely a great guy, and he's undoubtedly been a trusted Linux contributor, so this is nothing against him. It's about SCO and their position in the lawsuit, and it's about IBM's affirmative defenses."

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How SCO Helped Linux Go Enterprise

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  • by jkrise (535370) on Tuesday July 22, 2003 @08:07AM (#6498056) Journal
    It's trying to help itself from Enterprises that went Linux.
    Big difference.

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  • Re:Yay! (Score:1, Funny)

    by jkrise (535370) on Tuesday July 22, 2003 @08:14AM (#6498084) Journal
    Can't we just change YRO to "Legal Shit" and post all these stories under that? I could filter it a lot easier then.

    I suggest SCO gossip or SCOssip. It even appears /. is part of the SCO FUD machine. What else can explain non-story after non-story about SCO?

    All the points mentioned in this article have been thrashed thread-bare at Slashdot. And yet, when McBride sneezes, it makes headlines at Slashdot.

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  • the answer (Score:1, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 22, 2003 @08:21AM (#6498114)
    so i was out walking the dog and this spaceship came down and a grey being came out of the spaceship and talked to my dog afterwards my dog told me that the aliens had provided him with the key to the meaning of the universe and that it was encoded in the source code to unix so i bought sco because they own unix and i started looking for the answer to the meaning of the universe and i saw some code that looked like the answer and my dog was pretty excited but it turned out to be linux code and my dog was angry because he wanted the meaning of the universe and linux had it instead so he told me to sue linux but i couldn't so i sued ibm and now ibm and my dog are angry at me and the aliens are laughing at me and linux has the answer to the meaning of the universe and my head hurts but i wont take the pills oh no because the pills let the doctors read my thoughts and they want to steal the answer to the meaning of the universe and my dog would be angry so i hide the pills and pretend i took them and my head hurts

    darl mcbride
  • by ultrabot (200914) on Tuesday July 22, 2003 @08:22AM (#6498122)
    How long do we have to wait for the total excommunication of SCO from the tech industry?

    IBM, HP, Dell and friends could easily drop support for SCO Unix on their hardware, all OSS should refuse to compile on SCO unix (print an URL to a website explaining why). A lot could be done by adjusting autoconf or whatever.

    Their representatives would not be allowed to enter premises of any company, their IP packages would be silently scrapped by routers on the internet.

    Darl and Sontag would be kicked out of their yacht clubs.

    Essentially, they would be told that everybody hates them. Money matters, but let's not underestimate industry recognition.
  • by tds67 (670584) on Tuesday July 22, 2003 @08:28AM (#6498149)
    3. A per-cpu timer support ? - This will allow us to get rid of the krcud stuff and make RCU even simpler.

    Ingo, Linus: Any chance to see that in 2.5 soon?

    Christoph

    Now we just need to get rid of SCO and make Unix even simpler.

  • Hear that? (Score:1, Funny)

    by buddha42 (539539) on Tuesday July 22, 2003 @08:30AM (#6498158)
    ... me neither.

    IBM's quiet. Too quiet.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 22, 2003 @08:33AM (#6498168)
    You may not have noticed, but IBM is not in the habit of spiting out its dummy and engaging in public spats with people who are suing them. IBM is like the Monolith. Its big, silent and just sits there while you do all kinds of shit to it. Then when you least expect it, it swallows you up and transports you to another dimension (Where lawyers can bend time, space and reality)
  • by Surak (18578) * <surak@NoSpam.mailblocks.com> on Tuesday July 22, 2003 @08:40AM (#6498207) Homepage Journal
    Their representatives would not be allowed to enter premises of any company, their IP packages would be silently scrapped by routers on the internet.

    Just modify RFC 3514 to require SCO to set the Evil Bit. :-P

  • by cyphergirl (186872) on Tuesday July 22, 2003 @08:44AM (#6498234) Homepage Journal
    Microsoft has copied some of my code, and put it in Windows. Every Windows user must pay me a $700 licensing fee or I will sue them.

    What? I'm sorry, I can't show you the code -- it's a trade secret. Just trust me and sign that check.

  • by mkweise (629582) on Tuesday July 22, 2003 @08:58AM (#6498311)
    How long do we have to wait for the total excommunication of SCO from the tech industry?

    I think the duty of spanking this naughty brat into submission rests upon Novell. Both as the previous owner of Unix and as fellow Mormons, I can't help but feel they're somehow responsible.
  • by CableModemSniper (556285) <.moc.liamg. .ta. .odlapacnagol.> on Tuesday July 22, 2003 @09:05AM (#6498351) Homepage Journal
    Whoa, did someone lose their karma bonus or something? Someone on here has a sig: "Arguing with the moderators is like shouting at god, he's probably not listening, and if he is, he's angry". I wouldn't worry about it.
  • by tenzig_112 (213387) on Tuesday July 22, 2003 @09:07AM (#6498370) Homepage

    SCO Trademarks Penguin Mascot, Offers Licensing Program to Linux Users [ridiculopathy.com]


    LINDON, UTAH- Just weeks after asserting part ownership over the nominally open and free Linux source code, SCO Group sent another shockwave through the software community on Monday when they announced the discovery of a long-forgotten trademark for an amiable penguin mascot. The company's legal team happened to notice an uncanny visual similarity to another unix-based flightless waterfowl and reportedly grew so excited that they spat out several thousand cease and desist letters in a single afternoon.


    Fortunately for Tux fans everywhere, SCO has generously agreed to license the character to current users at a very reasonable rate. Without a license, SCO lawyers say the trademark infringing penguin must be removed from all t-shirts, screen-savers, undergarments and fine linens before the end of July or face stiff penalties.


    According to USPTO records dating back to the late 1870's, SCO has reportedly also patented a method for quantifying message board popularity. Upon hearing the news Slashdot reportedly linked to itself and subsequently exploded.



    There's more, but I didn't want to post the whole thing.
  • by fgb (62123) on Tuesday July 22, 2003 @09:11AM (#6498398)
    When I read this article, the ad banner at the top of the page was for Windows Server 2003.
    The tag line read "do more with less".

    I am glad that Microsoft is finally admitting that Windows is "less".
  • by pair-a-noyd (594371) on Tuesday July 22, 2003 @09:28AM (#6498497)
    The REAL question is, Why is OSDN and /. running M$ ads ???

    Now that's a real ass scratcher...

  • Re:This (Score:3, Funny)

    by Trigun (685027) <evil@evilempi r e .ath.cx> on Tuesday July 22, 2003 @09:42AM (#6498585)
    Just let me dance first. I'd hate to ruin my shoes.
  • by tommten (212387) on Tuesday July 22, 2003 @10:14AM (#6498827) Homepage Journal
    seems someone is following the rules of acquisition... [dmwright.com]

    some of the rules that seems to apply to McBride:
    Rule 003 Never spend more for an acquisition than you have to.
    Rule 042 What's mine is mine, and what's yours is mine too.
    Rule 189 Let others keep their reputation. You keep their money.
    Rule 266 When in doubt, lie.
    Rule 267 If you believe it, they believe it.

  • by Lord_Dweomer (648696) on Tuesday July 22, 2003 @10:40AM (#6499073) Homepage
    "MS will Pay your legal fees if you are sued for using their software."

    Great, I'll have to remember this for when the BSA comes knocking. O wait...do you have to pay for their software first? Crap...o well...

  • by Lord_Dweomer (648696) on Tuesday July 22, 2003 @10:47AM (#6499174) Homepage
    "IBM employ some extremely good IP lawyers."

    Yes yes, we all know this. But what I want is a large poster to put on my wall that shows this years 2003 IBM legal team, in all their blue-suited glory. Maybe with them standing atop Daryl's corpse.

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