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HP To Sell PCs With Mandrake 9.1 338

theoddball writes "HP just announced a new PC model (HP Compaq d220) that's available preloaded with Windows or Mandrake 9.1. The machine appears to be targeted to business users, although it's on the lower-end of the scale - specs are here. Mandrake also has a press release announcing the deal, which will grow to include four other HP models. Is this a sign that top tier manufacturers are taking Linux more seriously, or at least seeing a profitable niche?" We commented on MandrakeSoft's status update yesterday.
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HP To Sell PCs With Mandrake 9.1

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  • ipaqs (Score:5, Interesting)

    by SKPhoton ( 683703 ) on Wednesday July 02, 2003 @07:27PM (#6354378) Homepage
    I wonder how long it will take until HP releases iPaq's with linux already installed.
  • Hopefully (Score:2, Interesting)

    by CoolGuySteve ( 264277 ) on Wednesday July 02, 2003 @07:31PM (#6354405)
    Maybe other manufacturers and consumers will realize that linux is superior to windows in just about every way possible. It's taken long enough anyways, the average linux Desktop not only looks, performs and is more intuitive than windows' explorer.exe, but also has way more applications available from the start.
  • by civad ( 569109 ) on Wednesday July 02, 2003 @07:43PM (#6354498)
    From the Specifications provided:
    operating systems included: Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional; Microsoft® Windows® XP Home or Mandrake Linux 9.1.
    Interestingly enough, there is no mention whatsoever about the difference in price depending upon the OS. If I were someone who hasn't heard of Mandrake Linux, why would I bother selecting it if I am getting a MS OS (something that I am much more familiar with) for the same price? Where is the incentive for me to buy a system with Mandrake installed on it?
    From a business perspective IMO, paying for something unkown would be a no-no. One might consider taking a RISK if one buys something unfamiliar at a lower price with some extra incentives thrown in. Include Mandrake's documentation in HARD COPY; free training courses for employees, etc???
  • It's about damn time (Score:5, Interesting)

    by DesScorp ( 410532 ) on Wednesday July 02, 2003 @07:43PM (#6354500) Journal
    Just as I was getting worried that Carly was turning the New HP into a pure MS vehicle (all this stuff about 64 bit Windows being Itanium's "killer app"). I was starting to think they'd ditch HP-UX any day now (as they will with PA-RISC, now that they're pushing Itanium). So it's a shock to see them putting Mandrake on a PC OEM style (and a business targeted PC too!). I hope they have stellar success with this. If this succeeds I hope they offer other distros like Red Hat, United Linux, and even something like Lindows on a consumer model, all OEM loaded. Compaq had started to offer Dell-style customization of PC's ordered over the web before the *cough*takeover*cough merger. I wonder if HP still does that? That'd be the perfect place to offer even more choice.

  • by Kefabi ( 178403 ) on Wednesday July 02, 2003 @07:46PM (#6354519) Journal
    HP Compaq desktops are available with the latest operating systems from the industry leader, Microsoft, as well as a robust Linux offering from Mandrake. The HP Compaq d220 offers a choice of Microsoft Windows XP Professional, Microsoft Windows XP Home or Mandrake's Linux v9.1,
    providing customers with the versatility needed for today's mixed-use environments.

    Emphasis mine. Isn't HP like in the top 3 PC sellers in the USA? And HP puts out a press release to businesses that pretty much makes it seem like OS's other than Windows in businesses are becoming pretty damn common.

    I tell most my friends around me not to buy MS stock. Because once they lose their enormous marketshare, like dominos they'll lose their monopoly. HP just reinforced my belief that I'll get to see this happen within 5 years, easy.

    Good luck to multiple OS's on computers! Go Apple! Go beOS!

  • by garett_spencley ( 193892 ) on Wednesday July 02, 2003 @07:58PM (#6354595) Journal
    Hopefully with more larger companies offering Linux on desktops more people will consider switching and thus more commercial applications will become available.

    That and the prediction that Linux will surpass Apple in desktop usage next year.

    I have lots of friends that I met from other completely non-tech message boards that I participate on. In the chat rooms I've been asked on many occasion by these people about switching to Linux which has always surprised me because I've never mentioned it to anyone. They know that I work professionally as a computer programmer and that's about it.

    A few years ago I used to pitch Linux to everyone who didn't care. I stopped for just that reason... no one cared. Now I find those same people are starting to care. Why? Because they hear about it from companies like Wallmart, HP, Dell etc. so now all of a sudden it must mean something.

    This is exciting news ineed.

    - Garett
  • The Microsoft tax (Score:5, Interesting)

    by JCCyC ( 179760 ) on Wednesday July 02, 2003 @08:18PM (#6354690) Journal
    Now that you mention it, I wonder. How do we know HP is not paying the Microsoft tax anyway on those Mandrake PCs? The press release says nothing about price differences.
  • by InodoroPereyra ( 514794 ) on Wednesday July 02, 2003 @08:20PM (#6354698)
    Yes, I hope so too. But first of all I want to see them sell Linux preinstalled notebooks. It would be a winner situation for HP, to sell a full line of Linux-preinstalled hardware: servers, desktops, notebooks and handhelds. RedHat, Mandrake and SuSE are all excellent candidates ...
  • by whoever57 ( 658626 ) on Wednesday July 02, 2003 @08:32PM (#6354763) Journal
    Dell Flirted with Linux desktop machines and promptly withdrew them

    Desktops perhaps, but they still sell "workstations" loaded with RedHat Linux. What's more, on one system I tried configuring, the price dropped a massive $23 when I selected RedHat Linux instead of XP.
  • by fdawg ( 22521 ) on Wednesday July 02, 2003 @08:43PM (#6354834)
    I remember reading (on slashdot?) about a partnership between HP and Debian. Something about Debian being the dist of choice for HP. Does anyone have any info about this? Was it a cruel cruel dream?

  • trademarks (Score:3, Interesting)

    by kisak ( 524062 ) on Wednesday July 02, 2003 @08:51PM (#6354889) Homepage Journal
    from the HP press release [hp.com]:
    Intel, Pentium and Celeron are U.S. registered trademarks of Intel Corp. Microsoft and Windows are U.S. registered trademarks of Microsoft Corp.
    ... and Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds and Mandrake Linux is a trademark of Mandrakesoft. Or does not these trademark matter much to HP?
  • by leviramsey ( 248057 ) on Thursday July 03, 2003 @04:58AM (#6356810) Journal

    Mandrake aims to be roughly binary compatible with Red Hat.

  • by Kynde ( 324134 ) <kynde@[ ].fi ['iki' in gap]> on Thursday July 03, 2003 @06:11AM (#6356962)
    Does someone know wether this also means that HP will start to sell laptops without the mandatory M$ fee?

    Since M$ forced Dell to stop shipping laptops without Windows it's been practically impossible to buy a quality laptop without the M$ fee. Even IBM, with all it's pro-linux steps it has taken recently, ain't selling a laptop without Windows.

    And does someone know wether it's the manufacturers that are in league with M$ or the retailers or perhaps both?
  • by dwcasey ( 579461 ) on Thursday July 03, 2003 @10:12AM (#6358114) Journal
    I just installed Mandrake 9.1 on a home built machine with an AMD CPU and nforce2 chipset and everything worked great out of the box. My Epson Scanner and Canon printer, my PDA and my digital camera all worked. I went to Nvidia's site to download the latest nforce drivers for Linux and installed them w/o any issues. Mandrakes new software update utility is the best. As good as or better than apt-get.

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