HP To Sell PCs With Mandrake 9.1 338
theoddball writes "HP just announced a new PC model (HP Compaq d220) that's available preloaded with Windows or Mandrake 9.1. The machine appears to be targeted to business users, although it's on the lower-end of the scale - specs are here. Mandrake also has a press release announcing the deal, which will grow to include four other HP models. Is this a sign that top tier manufacturers are taking Linux more seriously, or at least seeing a profitable niche?" We commented on MandrakeSoft's status update yesterday.
Re:2.0 GHz Intel® Celeron™ (Score:2, Informative)
Well (Score:2, Informative)
Hopefully this is just a case of the press releasing being issued a bit before the website is changed to handle the new systems fully.
Desktop vs. Office/desktop? (Score:5, Informative)
Not yet on the store (Score:5, Informative)
Format text :) (Score:2, Informative)
HP Delivers Affordable, Reliable Microtower PC to Small- and Medium-sized Businesses
PALO ALTO, CALIF., JULY 2, 2003
HP (NYSE:HPQ) today introduced an affordable, high-quality desktop PC for small- and medium-sized business (SMB) customers: the HP Compaq Business Desktop d220 Microtower.
The microtower desktop features Intel® Pentium® 4 or Celeron® processors and offers three PCI expansion slots, two double data rate (DDR) memory slots and five drive bays in a compact microtower platform, allowing for expansion or future upgrades.
"Our SMB customers are looking to maximize their IT investment, and the combination of low purchase price and consistent, reliable performance in the HP Compaq d220 provides value-seeking businesses a solid platform choice," said Keith LeFebvre, vice president of business desktop division, Americas, HP Personal Systems Group.
The HP Compaq Business Desktop d220 is designed to keep IT simple, with the choice of customizable or pre-configured solutions optimized for affordability and quality. Customized solutions, available beginning July 7, start at an estimated U.S. street price of $349 (1) with an Intel Celeron 2.0-gigahertz processor, 40-gigabyte hard drive and 128-megabyte DDR SDRAM. Customers also can opt for an Intel Pentium 4 2.4-gigahertz processor, 40-gigabyte hard drive and 128-megabyte DDR SDRAM for as low as an estimated U.S. street price of $499. (1)
For customers interested in pre-configured solutions with an Intel Celeron 2.0-gigahertz processor, pricing starts at an estimated $429. (1) Or, for customers requiring additional processing power, the HP Compaq d220 is available pre-configured with a 2.4-gigahertz Intel Pentium 4 processor, 40-gigabyte hard drive, 512-megabyte DDR SDRAM, integrated Intel Extreme Graphics, DVD+RW/CD-RW combo drive, six USB 2.0 ports and Microsoft Windows® XP Professional - priced at an estimated U.S. street price of only $799. (1)
HP Compaq desktops are available with the latest operating systems from the industry leader, Microsoft, as well as a robust Linux offering from Mandrake. The HP Compaq d220 offers a choice of Microsoft Windows XP Professional, Microsoft Windows XP Home or Mandrake's Linux v9.1, providing customers with the versatility needed for today's mixed-use environments.
The HP Compaq Business Desktop d220 Microtower is now available directly from HP or through authorized resellers. More information about the product is available at http://www.hp.com/products/desktops
About HP
HP delivers vital technology for business and life. The company's solutions span IT infrastructure, personal computing and access devices, global services and imaging and printing for consumers, enterprises and small and medium business. For the last four quarters, HP revenue totaled $70.4 billion. More information about HP is available at http://www.hp.com
(1) Actual prices may vary.
Intel, Pentium and Celeron are U.S. registered trademarks of Intel Corp. Microsoft and Windows are U.S. registered trademarks of Microsoft Corp.
This news release contains forward-looking statements that involve risks, uncertainties and assumptions. All statements other than statements of historical fact are statements that could be deemed forward-looking statements. Risks, uncertainties and assumptions include the possibility that the market for the sale of certain products and services may not develop as expected; that development and performance of these products and services may not proceed as planned; and other risks that are described from time to time in HP 's Securities and Exchange Commission reports, including but not limited to HP 's quarterly report on Form 10-Q for the quarter ended January 31, 2003, and subsequently filed reports. If any of these risks or uncertainties materializes or any of these assumptions proves incorrect, HP 's results could differ materially from HP 's expectations in these statements. HP assumes no obligation to update these forward-looking statements.
Re:Not yet on the store (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Well (check HP wedsite Monday) (Score:4, Informative)
old stuff (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Microsoft Tax (Score:2, Informative)
And NO, you do not pay the MS tax, they are cheaper (by approx $150 AU) than the equivalent Windows box
Re:Paperclip? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Good. Distro variety. (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Waddya mean, preloaded? (Score:3, Informative)
And the advanced install warns you about what servers you installed and gives you the option to turn them off.
Re:WHY MANDRAKE IS IMPORTANT (Score:2, Informative)
Did you read your parent post? (Score:5, Informative)
No Microsoft tax (Score:5, Informative)
If you check the prices, you will see that they come with no tax:
HP-Compaq D220 with MS-WindowsXP: $429
HP-Compaq D220 with Mandrake 9.1: $349
For MDK 9.1: "Customized solutions, available beginning July 7, start at an estimated U.S. street price of $349" [hp.com]
See price for MS-W-XP: "starting at: $429.00*" [hp.com]
My question is: when will they be available in Europe? Peace!
Re:2.0 GHz Intel® Celeron™ (Score:5, Informative)
The BASIC interpreter is mapped in at $A000, the character ROM is mapped in at $D000 (I think, I don't quite remember), and the kernel ROM is mapped in at $E000. Due to the way that the VIC-II works, being able to access only 16K at a time, the character ROM is also mapped in at $1000 and $9000, but only the VIC-II sees it this way, the 6510 sees the RAM there.
Now then, to map out the ROM's, you need to play with the MMU, which is at memory location 1. Also, like I said, you have to be in machine language, because using any of these methods, you end up mapping out either the BASIC interpreter, BASIC and the kernel, or all of the ROM's, and if you're in BASIC, unless you've copied the ROM to RAM, you'll crash the machine.
These values will work, although you shouldn't just set them, since they also set some of the Datasette lines as well. Set the MMU (memory location 1) to these values to get the RAM:
$36: Map in the RAM under the BASIC interpreter (8K at $A000)
$35: Map in the RAM under the BASIC interpreter (8k at $A000) and under the kernel (8K at $E000)
$34: All 64K of RAM.
There are other values as well, but I don't remember how they work, as I didn't use them very often.
Note that when you map out the kernel or use all 64K of RAM, you MUST disable interrupts. The 6510, when it receives an interrupt, jumps to the vector pointed at $FFFC ($FFFA for NMI's), and for IRQ, this is $EA31 (I don't remember the NMI). If the CPU does it's JMP($FFFC), and there's garbage there, well, your C64 goes off into
never-never land.
Also when you map in all 64K of memory, you only have about 63K of memory. That's because most of zero page (0-255) is reserved, $100-$200 is the stack (you don't want to mess with that unless you really know what you're doing), and $300 contains some semi-important pointers (file I/O, IRQ, etc.). But from $400 up, you're all clear.
Of interesting note... The game Impossible Mission (by Epyx) used all but 1K of RAM. And yes, I'm a former C64 demo coder, I've set the machine to use all 64K of RAM many times.
-- Joe
Re:I hope you're joking (Score:3, Informative)
Ok, reboots are one thing, but just FYI, on my last install of Mandrake 9.1 several days ago I was presented with nearly 300MB of updates and bug fixes after install. This is on a release only a couple months old, mind you - Win2000 has several years worth of updates built up. This is not a selling point for Linux.
I also have a Red Hat demo account (installed RH on another machine) and hardly a day goes by that I don't get some sort of "errata" report from them in my inbox.
Re:What happened to HP an Debian? (Score:3, Informative)
This is merely speculation, but the drive to Debian might have been led by Bruce Perens [perens.com] (Bruce used to be the Project Leader for Debian GNU/Linux) when he was an exec at HP. Now that he's left, it might explain why the association has disappeared.
Re:2.0 GHz Intel® Celeron™ (Score:3, Informative)
Only yesterday I saw a Mac Plus doing its job for a librarian - granted, only for text processing and printing, but still. It did its job. I actually asked wether she would rather like a new computer - there were quite a lot of them around. Of course not, she replied, as the Mac does its job. I beleive the librarian did "real useful work" on that Mac.
Just because you happen to be internet content creation, doesn't mean that your computer would fit everybody else. The reason you see such many "Word and Excel"-arguments around here, is because the majority of business computer users only to text processing, spreadsheet and e-mail. Computers have been able to do that for quite a while, now. In the real world, people look as computers as tools, not as the real work.
I'm a web developer. As I run Linux, my applications ranges from Gimp to web/script/databaseserver to several web browsers, of course in addition to mail and news applications and all the small stuff like XMMS and Gaim. For these tasks, I have an AMD K6-II 400MHz with 128MB RAM and a 16 MB video adapter. I'll upgrade the RAM soon, but the computer is sufficient for my needs, and it's not painful.
I think the definition of real work needs some polishing. I admit that my computer have troubles with the latest games, but I don't linke this trend of always needing the latest and greatest hardware. People did real work on PDP-11, for crying out load!