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Robin's Report From LWCE 202

For everyone who can't make it to New York, roblimo has posted impressions of LWCE's first day, in which he takes note of Start buttons, prods Dell about laptops factory loaded with Linux, and watches the Golden Penguin Bowl. I suppose he was also asking vendors some of your questions.
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Robin's Report From LWCE

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  • by Kenja ( 541830 ) on Thursday January 23, 2003 @03:13PM (#5144960)
    Bastard sales people, using the OS they know to present cross platform software, that's not right.
  • by cscx ( 541332 ) on Thursday January 23, 2003 @03:13PM (#5144962) Homepage
    must say the booth babes are really hot this yr...

    Yeah nothing like one look at Jon 'maddog' Hall's Santa Claus beard to get the ladies' panties in a bunch.
  • by mschoolbus ( 627182 ) <{travisriley} {at} {gmail.com}> on Thursday January 23, 2003 @03:14PM (#5144970)
    must say the booth babes are really hot this yr

    What are these "booth babes" you speak of? There are none of them in my basement... =P
  • by NaCh0 ( 6124 ) on Thursday January 23, 2003 @03:16PM (#5144984) Homepage
    Do we get Batman's report too?

  • by Kenja ( 541830 ) on Thursday January 23, 2003 @03:17PM (#5144988)
    What are these "booth babes" you speak of? There are none of them in my basement.

    See, thats what you get for using the wrong distro. Booth Babes (tm) being non GPL are not avilible for download and can be found in binnary only form with licensed copies of Linux.

  • by Kenja ( 541830 ) on Thursday January 23, 2003 @03:21PM (#5145034)
    Robin: Holly Beowulf Clusters Batman! There's a start menu on that guys computer.

    Batman: That's right my spandexed teen sidekick. It would seem evil is afoot. Start menus are found in windows, windows are something you look through, you also look through MySQL datasets, datasets like the list of blond jokes I downloaded this morning, jokes are like riddles. THE RIDDLER HAS INFILTRATED THE TRADE SHOW!

  • ...That's enough for tonight. It's after 11 p.m. here in New York, time to hit the sack...
    Wimp! You should be ashamed of yourself.
  • by peterpi ( 585134 ) on Thursday January 23, 2003 @03:30PM (#5145102)
    "I agree and am equally disgusted with this...most presentation and slide shows seem to be done w/powerpoint rather than soffice..perhaps a sign that linux still isnt easy enough for the avg person."

    So who are you disgusted with?

    • The average person (for being so thick)
    • The open source effort (for not making the software easier)
    • I'm not disgusted, you insensitive clod!
    • Nobody; I'm just upset with the situation.
    • CowboyNeal arranges my presentations
  • by peterpi ( 585134 ) on Thursday January 23, 2003 @03:44PM (#5145182)
    You so just justified my last sentence.
  • by stratjakt ( 596332 ) on Thursday January 23, 2003 @03:51PM (#5145218) Journal
    Why would your windows machine need a reset button?

    And before you respond with the typical 'it freezes and crashes wah wah', stop and think the cause of the crashes/freezes could very well be because you've been trashing the filesystem when you cycle power on it like that.
  • by stratjakt ( 596332 ) on Thursday January 23, 2003 @04:04PM (#5145315) Journal
    ROFL... That's hilarious, Tarzan.

    "Big business no care about the regular linux geek, they care only about the money. "

    You just figured that out?

    We want Linux to be a success - but we don't want businesses associated with it.

    FreeBSD the next big success.. Hahaha..

    Dude you need to bottle and sell that shit.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 23, 2003 @04:31PM (#5145583)
    I read with interest about how you feel the Linux word has sold out, but at the risk of veering away from the main topic (the sell-out) I just wonder about the wisdom of taking an open-source approach in general.

    Sure it may look good on paper, but I wonder if these guys have thought about the opinion of the general public of Open Source/GNU/Linux etc.

    I have been involved in the marketing (dirty word I know!) of software and hardware to non-technical people for a number of years. The consultancy group I work for numbers many of America's top blue-chip electronics and software corporations among its clients, I have over 11 years experience of marketing, and 4 years experience of software development (VB) and systems administration (NT 3.51), in addition to a marketing science qualification from one of America's top business schools - so it's safe to say that I know what I am talking about when it comes to computers and marketing.

    I have been keeping an eye this forum for quite some time now, as part of my daily intelligence gathering, I find the robust exchange of views, and technical arguments make an interesting diversion from some of the other corporate bullshit I have to deal with in my working day. I also read corporate intelligence reports from the Gartner group, Forrester, the Meta group, and Olsen Online Business Intelligence Services. Slashdot has often proved to be far more accurate when it comes to the technical details,and I am often amazed at the incredible levels of intelligence and insight shown by its readership, some of whom demonstrate a knowledge of Linux and Operating systems far in advance of anyone I have ever met, even in the IS department of major corporations. For this reason, I feel I should contribute my 2c to the debate about the future direction of Linux and the whole Open Source movement in general.

    I feel I can do my bit for the Open Source community by offering (free of charge) some of my hard-earned knowledge straight from the bloody trenches at the front-line of tech-Marketing. Normally I would be paid over $4000/day for my perspective, but Slashdot - this one's on me. You people can think of it as my small and unworthy attempt to "give something back" to the Community.

    Why Linux/Open Source has an image problem in major US Corporations and what the community can do about it. Like any movment, political or religious, Open Source/Linux has its Leaders, High priests and Gurus. These high profile individuals represent the public face of the organization. Like it or not, these people are associated with the product in the eyes of the buying public. One of the first things the Linux movement must do in order to gain acceptence by middle-America and Joe-and-Jean Sixpack and their 2.4 kids, is to develop what we in the Marketing profession call a "Happy Face".

    When Joe Sixpack drives past a McDonald's, he associates it with the smiling face of Ronald McDonald the clown,and quality food served quickly. When he is choosing a collect-call company, the smiling face of Al Bundy (of TV's Married with Children) springs to mind, and when he thinks of fried chicken in large capacity bucket-like containers, it is the image of the happy-go-lucky avuncular Colonel with his associations of good old Southern hospitality that sticks in his memory. (In marketing terms this is known as a "positive association". Because the image puts the consumer into a "buying-receptive" mental state).

    GNU/Linux and Open Source lack any kind of "Happy Face". Now this in itself is not a problem, were it not for the fact that Linux has several extremely high-profile advocates who are the exact opposite of "Happy Faces" in that they invite negative associations into the consumers head and put him/her into a state known by Marketers as "passive-aggressive sales-message rejection" (In layman's terms they don't want to buy the product).

    Now, I will not lower the tone of the debate by naming names. I will give a few brief profiles and community members will know who I am talking about.

    In reverse order of harmfullness we have the laconic, dour nothern European. Not known for his sense of hunor, and with far too many nights spent
    coding when he should have been out partying he creates an image of Linux as the OS of choice for "friendless geeks who never got laid". (note - I do not subscribe to this viewpoint, but trust me some of my focus group members do).

    Then we have the good old gun-toting libertarian self-proclaimed open source guru. Although M.R. studies show that 78% of PC owners show right-wing bias this person is too wacko and off-the scale for them. He alienates them, and in the worst case scares them that they risk being physically harmed if they don't agree with his fundamentalist libertarian "philosophy".

    Finally we have a bearded Communist hippy. Do I need to say any more ?

    So the normal consumer associates Linux with a sucicidal friendless nerd from some godforsaken corner of Northern Europe, a plainly insane right
    wing lunatic, and an "alternative lifestyle" Communist throwback to Woodstock with a facial hair problem. Is it any wonder that time after time, the message comes back from my focus groups that Linux is for wierdos ?

    Here are a few example comments from a focus group session from Q3 2002 in response to a question about their attitudes to Linux and open source
    software, you'll get the general idea.

    "Linux - that's that geek system right ?"

    "I tried Linux but it was too hard for me to install, then that guy flamed me on the newsgroups"

    "I don't want any Open Source software because it is written by communists and I am concerned about security"

    "My boss says Linux was written by Communists and Gun-Nuts"

    "Linux is used by Communists who hate capitalism and Microsoft"

    "Open source software cannot be any good because it is written by college students and hackers."

    "Linux is not compatible with my USB peripherals"

    "I would like to try Linux but my buddies would think I was a Commie"

    "Linux users are all wankers"

    I could go on and on with these genuine responses, but I think I've illustrated my point well enough. Linux has a serious image problem.

    What to do about it is more problematic. Open Source proponents and Linux advocates are fiercely independent and proud of their alternative stance.
    They see any form of marketing as "selling out to da man" or "not groking it" or becoming a "suit" Any mention of money or financial rewards is
    derided, and developers are supposed to be content with "Kudos" from the community. Whilst this might be ok at college, or if you are tremendously wealthy, it cuts no ice with Joe Sixpack who was raised on Microsoft and associates Bill's millions with the quality of the software his company puts out. From the focus group again:

    "If Bill (Gates) is worth that much money he must make the best software in the world."

    "Microsoft must know what they are doing - the whole world uses their software."

    "The best programmers work for Microsoft - they have the most tech-savvy hackers there."

    "Microsoft spend millions on their software I think it is the best in the world. (referring to IE5)

    "It just works. period."

    Again the message is clear: Microsoft is winning the hearts and minds not only of Joe Sixpack, but also Juan Sixpack in South America, Bruce and Sheila sixpack in Australia, Jean-Paul Sixpack in France, Jeroen Van der Sixpack in the Netherlands, Nkwele-Olamu Sixpack in West Africa, Mohammed-Al-non-alcoholic-Sixpack in Iran, Kulwant Chandrasekhera Sixpack in India, and Boris Sixpack in the Russian Federation.

    Their message is powerful, international, and presented relentlessly with no internal bickering and bitching.

    What can be done ?

    There are no easy answers. The Linux/Open Source community has proved unwilling or unable to accept critisim (even constructive criticism such as this) gracefully, preferring to mount foul-languaged assaults on the personal integrity of anyone who steps out from the party line.

    I offer no easy solutions, however here are a few pointers:

    1) As a damage limitation exercise Linux/GNU should appoint itself a "Marketing Spokesperson". This person would be the "official face of
    Linux/GNU/Open Source". First and Foremost, they would wear an expensive suit, especially when talking to the press or when dealing with
    high-profile major corporation with deep pockets and $$$s to spend. I realise this is ridiculous from a technical perspective, but with my blend of
    tech-savvy and marketing exprience, I realize the importance of presentation over technical merit. It goes against the grain of the community, but if we are to become the next Microsoft (and why else would we be in this game if not to win it at all costs), we must fight them on our battleground, but with the same weapons they use against us.

    2) The Penguin logo MUST go ASAP. Although it seemed "cute" and funny at the time, in the eyes of the corporate MIS department it just looks
    juvenile. Linux needs a new logo, preferably one of those kind of eliptical ones with a swoosh that in the eyes of the public can mean one thing: Hip
    and cool DOTCOM Corporation. The logo should be bland, yet robust, non-controversial yet ahead of the curve, and toned in serious businesslike
    colors such as gray, silver, and white. It should transcend culture and religion to be internationally recognized like the Coca-Cola image is all over the world.

    3) Downplay RMS, Linus, ESR, etc. They are technicians with zero understanding of the general public, or of software consumers in general. Indeed many of them only write their program for themselves to "scratch an itch". This is hardly the way to gain public acceptance. And their alarming character flaws scare the punters away.

    4) Direct X - A MAJOR stumbling block on Linux's road to world domination is the lack of Direct X support for Linux. This trivial omission means that most games will not run on Linux. Linux could gain 1000's of new games by simply implementing the DirectX api. This is a no-brainer. Kernel support for XML would be a big performance booster too in the B2B and B2C application area, and would make Linux buzzword compliant for XML.

    5) Finally FOCUS GROUPS. Before you think about starting that new open-source project, (be it a new web browser like Mazola, or simply a new front-end for the cdplayer application) Get a focus group together. Use a few minutes of your non-tech-savvy friend's time. If you don't have any friends like that, try your folks, or your grandparents. Ask them what they would like to see in your new program. This way, you will gain "market perspective" on the likely acceptance of your product by the "normal people" of the world.

    thank you for your time, I hope my insight has been useful, and I agree with the guy who posted about bands, you either like a band or you don't, you don't stop liking them because they gain success.

    You linux people whining about the sell-out are just playa-hatas. Don't hate the playa, hate the game!
  • Re:What? (Score:2, Funny)

    by kollivier ( 449524 ) on Thursday January 23, 2003 @04:58PM (#5145820)
    Well, after reading the article, I think it stands for "LinuxWorld Corporate Edition". =)

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