Linus says 2.6 kernel will be out by June 2003 187
Xpilot writes "C|Net reports that Linus Torvalds predicts 2.6 will be out by June next year during a talk on his Geek Cruise. Linus called the next release '2.6', but knowing him that may be just a working title;)"
Update: 10/26 17:29 GMT by T : An anonymous reader adds "Rob Landley has published the latest list of features being considered for inclusion" in the new kernel; ... "the long and impressive list is available in more or less human readable form on Linux and Main."
Transmeta (Score:-1, Interesting)
Why the digs at Intel in an article about Linux?
Wanna speed up the process? (Score:5, Interesting)
Unless, of course, Linus decides that there must be a set time between when the features are frozen and when the firse betas hit the servers.
I'm getting fairly excited about this, even though I don't plan on using any of these new features. Does that mean I read /. too much? ;)
Re:2.5.xx (Score:5, Interesting)
The 2.1 series [kernel.org] got as high as 2.1.132 [kernel.org].
Re:Transmeta (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Transmeta (Score:2, Interesting)
When it's ready... (Score:4, Interesting)
Huh? (Score:4, Interesting)
minor vs. major (Score:3, Interesting)
Docked in Jamaica. (Score:5, Interesting)
We were told that just a few of the speakers would be presenting in Jamaica so 3 of us drove down to the pier to colect them.
Ha.
we neaded all 3 cars plus 2 busses to haul them to "the Ruins". We sat ESR and Linux on a panel with 4 other senior geaks and asked them some lame questions for an hour or so.
All the baby Linuses were there and Tove is realy cool. everybody seams to think the Coffee here is great (exact words: "The best I have ever tasted") so we will try to have a few bags ready for the next deligation.
PS: No the Geak Cruise dosn't normaly hold talks on land for the locals. However JaLUG asked nicely
Kevin Forge.
Jamaica Linux Users Group. JaLUG
Founding member.
Re:Get some PRIORITIES! (Score:3, Interesting)
Events that shape history need to be presented as history. If we continue to live out the horrors of our generation each day, nothing will get done. If a nerd somewhere sat on his ass playing video games before these attacks, then playing video games again _is_ getting on with life.
If you want to help: survive; don't whine. So go away you... you... poo-poo head! :-
This just seems wrong... (Score:4, Interesting)
I think it is time for a fork. DTLinux and SVLinux. DT for the desktop, SV for servers. I mean really, does Oscar Office Worker really need to hot swap processors? Come ON!.
This is getting way out of hand, and resources that could be foucssed on the battle for the destkop (BFD (haha)) are being wasted on some sort of kernal probe thing that sounds painfull.
Seriously, don't you think this kernel feature thing needs to stop!.
-- ac ah home
Re:Huh? (Score:4, Interesting)
Elsewhere, someone said they'd love to test these heading-toward-stable kernels, but didn't want to risk trashing their filesystem. They asked how likely that would be, and Linus replied:
"Personal opinion (and only that): not much chance for a filesystem trashing. There's more chance of something just not _working_ than of disk corruption. Ie you may find that some driver you need doesn't compile because it hasn't been updated to the new world order yet, for example.
And people still report problems booting, for example, whatever the reason. So make sure you have a working choice in your lilo configuration or whatever. But from what we've seen lately, there really aren't reports of corrupted disks or anything like that that I've seen. Which is obviously not to say that it couldn't happen, but it's not a very likely occurrence.
That said, I can't set other peoples risk bars for them."
Re:This just seems wrong... (Score:5, Interesting)
That's why you run through the configuration utility before you compile the kernel. You don't need to branch the kernel source to limit features in the kernel. You just don't select them when you compile the kernel. Voila. Your kernel does not have those features. Do you think when Oscar Office Worker got that copy of Windows 2000 Workstation and Mitch MIS Admin got that copy of Windows 2000 Server, they came from different source repositories? I doubt it.
With that said, the kernel source is getting gigantic, and it would be nice if they released source bundles geared towards those who might be compiling in more desktop-oriented features and those who might be compiling for a server.
Re:minor vs. major (Score:4, Interesting)
Or you could say that the number of minor version increases exponentially with respect to the major number, and, since the major number changed after 1.2, it should clearly change after 2.(2^2).
Some CRUCIAL patches here (Score:3, Interesting)
A must for embedded systems.
Makes Linux dramatically more useful (without funky patching) for (again) embedded systems, especially given the coldfire 683xx support.
What can I say about this? Another must for embedded systems, and really nice for an enterprise-wide context.
Need I tell you why this is handy?
I'll settle for just the above features but the LVM patches seem like they'd be insanely handy, the console rewrite seems like a very good idea, and the non-high-resolution POSIX timers are a good idea, too. Anything POSIX should be a priority since (hopefully) it makes code more willing to compile on more platforms. Provided people actually use the calls correctly.
Re:Wanna speed up the process? (Score:3, Interesting)
Another problem is that of information gathering. With something like Gaim or XMMS I can accumulate all I need in a few minutes and fire off a bug report, but proper kernel debugging requires time consuming dumps and backtraces. However, since the kernel now officially supports a fairly modern compiler (GCC 2.95.3), one no longer has to downgrade to the stone age to properly debug.
The 2.5 branch has been infinitely less stable for me compared to 2.3. Out of the twenty or so point releases I've tried, only three have actually booted. All have panicked when I tried to actually do something beyond log in at a prompt. My hardware is far from exotic (and is rock solid under 2.4, just to quell those accusations), so I assume the developers are aware of such showstoppers.
Now I'm not insinuating the kernel is a crappy piece of software or whatever. In fact, I'm fairly convinced my problems are the fault of Via weirdness, but it's hard to test something which won't even boot properly, and I've run out of patience trying 2.5 builds.
I guess you could say I'm lazy, but I'd rather do nothing at all than fill lists with halfway done bug reports, and I'm not dedicated enough to delve completely into 2.5's issues.
Re:When it's ready... (Score:2, Interesting)
It is a vaguely interesting thing. A coworker once mentioned a word that she typed entirely with one hand and speculated about what the longest such word was. Being a geek, I thought that the obvious solution was to write a perl script to find out. I found that the longest words that could be typed entirely with one hand (the left) were 12 letters long; the only one that might actually be used in ordinary usage was stewardesses. ISTR that the longest word typed entirely with the right hand was only 9 letters, but I don't remember any examples.