Linux Kernel 2.5.19 Released

The Pi-Guy writes "It's that time again, yep, another kernel update - 2.5.19 is out there, including lots of drivers ported to the new API, and lots of ia64 and PPC32 fixes! Grab it from your local Kernel.org mirror, or if you're feeling mean, you can grab it directly from kernel.org here. The changelog is also at kernel.org."

kbuild

[xer.xes]

What happened to the new kbuild system? Last time I compiled 2.5, I included the new kbuild patch, and it worked great.

Ah well.. It will probably end up like kgi.. Great project, but dies because some finnish guy doesn't want to include it into the kernel...

Re:Don't Complain!

[Lardmonster]

Believe it or not, some people ENJOY hearing about the development kernel releases.

Yes - but the same people can easily visit www.kernel.org [kernel.org] every day.

If they did visit kernel.org regularly, they'd have been running the 2.5.19 kernel two days ago.

When will Mandrake upgrade their kernel?

[SHEENmaster]

Does urpmi simply not support kernel upgrades, or is Mandrake sticking to the stable kernel versions?

As a concerned linux user, and an avid Mandrake fan, I would like the option to try a new linux kernel without installing it manually. Guess I don't have a choice.

Worryingly low number of "beta" testers?

[hta]

In the old days, many many people used the 2.3 kernels.
Today, the Linux Counter system statistics [li.org] show less than 1% of users using the "development" kernel.
Is this a worrying aspect of the Linux community's development cycle?

Re:When will Mandrake upgrade their kernel?

[pinkpineapple]

This is open source, and if you are willing to download the kernel, compile it, and run it, it's up to you really and not to blame on any distro update engine. The steps are fairly easy to do if you follow readmes but keep in mind that is an unstable release and if things go wrong, you are on your own (keep a backup of the stable kernel and make sure lilo/grub points to the old one too.)

On the other hand, if you are not able to come up with this suggestion on your own, it's probably safe to assume that you should stay away from installing it until it moves to something known to work without any problems (after all, unstable code always moves to stable at one time or another.)

Oh boy, I still didn't make time to watch AOTC.

PPA, the girl next door.

Re:Shouldn't this be prefaced by "Developer..."?

[DarkProphet]

I agree with the parent comment, except that I would say that the 2.x.x series is a big deal for most of us, since we're going to be running it for awhile, I think. As for the 2.5.x series, I could care less, its a development kernel, which should be considered beta quality at best and completely broken at worst. A new 2.5.x kernel is no news to me. 3.x.x is likely a long way off, so I'd consider it a big deal when the roll the 2.5.x development series over to the 2.6.x stable. Of course everyone will already be celebrating with several pints of Guiness hours before /. ends up posting the 2.6.x announcement. Heh.

Did Linus earn his salary :)

[jukal]

I was interested to find out how much Linus has contributed to the dev. kernel during last month, I might as well post it here. Based on this he has followed the work multiple times a week during last month. And as I also see a couple of sunpoints, this means....ermm.... nothing.

(29-May-2002)
version: changelog entries
2.5.19 : 7
2.5.18 : 10
2.5.17: 6
2.5.16: 8
2.5.15: 4
2.5.14 : 2
2.5.13: 3
2.5.12: 5
2.5.11: 5
2.5.10: 10
(24-Apr-2002)

Re:Shouldn't this be prefaced by "Developer..."?

[suwain_2]

I'll totally skirt around the issue of what Slashdot should and shouldn't post, and say this:

I read this as "Linux Kernel 2.4.19 released," and was about to download it and install it on my box as a replacement for 2.4.16. Then I went to get a copy, and couldn't find it... Only then did I realized that it was the 2.5 series, not 2.4

Why no one is using the development kernels

[brsmith4]

I don't speak for everyone, but it seems the reason that not as many people are using development kernels is because the 2.4.x series has all of the hardware support that most of us need. I have yet to come across a device that my 2.4.18 cannot support. The only reason I used the 2.3.x kernels when they were released was because 2.2.x was not cutting it in terms of hardware support. Now, I may just want to try 2.5.x just to see the difference in performance with that preemt patch, but I may be able to contain my excitement until 2.6 rolls out.

well i've tried it..

[7-Vodka]

And just like all the other 2.5's i've tried it wouldn't even build. I'd test it but since it won't build, I can't run it.

That's a big change from 2.3's, they would almost always build for me.

While this is the topic... does anyone know if 2.4.19 will ever come out of RC stage?

Dev kernel posts are reasonable

[0x0d0a]

I think it's fairly reasonable. The nice thing about these being posted to Slashdot is that they allow public discussion of features the latest releases. I learned quite a bit about the pros and cons of devfs by following the Slashdot discussion about it.

There is always going to be something on Slashdot that you aren't interested in. Kernel releases, Star Wars, anime, whatever. There are too many different tastes to please everyone. But you have preferences that allow filtering, and article summaries and headlines to help you decide whether to read an article. I'd rather see more material on Slashdot than less, and decide what's interesting myself.

Finally, redundancy complaints aren't really reasonable. Yes, you can get anime news on an anime site, world events on BBC, linux kernel releases on kernel.org, etc. But because the Net is so large and provides so much information, there's redundant sources for amost all types of information. The point of Slashdot is to provide a nice selection of interesting information to browse at an idle point in your day. Including more information and then letting people filter seems to achive that goal well.

Now, maybe more fine-grained filters w

2.4.19?!

[charnerd]

Is seems to me that 2.4.19 should be released already, especially since it's been like 4 months and the 2.4.18 release was bungled. WTF is up? Put an rc release then release already!

I am getting increasingly uneasy about using a kernel in which development on it appears to have STOPPED! I mean, the whole world uses this kernel branch pretty-much...

linux is unstable

[Anonymous Coward]

Sigh, why publicize and push this unstable version of linux on people where there's a true Unix(tm) descendant which is much more stable and runs on your PC? FreeBSD must be the best kept secret in the world.