Red Hat 7.3 Coming Along 290
EyesWideOpen writes "I just read a review of a beta version of Red Hat 7.3 (code named Skipjack) over at Linux Journal. It's not the most complete review (being a little KDE heavy and GNOME shy, as well as focusing mainly on the install and desktop components) but it's a decent read. From the article: '...if you are a desktop user like me and you like the latest software, you will be hard pressed to find a more complete and usable piece of software...'.
If you're feeling adventurous you can download the latest beta from a Red Hat mirror site."
tv... (Score:2, Interesting)
Just a stupid question (Score:3, Interesting)
Ok, I know that if I'm going to install in a empty machine it's very useful to have the latest version of your favorit distro.
But what about this upgrade stuff? I've heard a lot of people saying that they'll buy RH7.3 (or another brand-new version of any distro) to upgrade their current version.
Isn't this supposed to be unecessary? Isn't GNU/Linux supposed to be upgradable just where needed? What am I faling to understand here.
Please, don't take this as a troll of a flamebait, I just want to understand.
Re:Just a stupid question (Score:5, Interesting)
Given that I am reading this thread specifically because I'm interested in upgrading a few existing boxes, I may be able to explain.
I suspect I'm lazy.
Can't get more "Occam's razor" than that. There's one box in pariticular that I'd like to have KDE3 on, but to do that I'd also need to update Qt to 3.something, and lib-this.so and dev-that.so.what and I don't really feel like it. I don't need KDE3 on the box, and, as I concluded the other night when I started to think about upgrading, I'm lazy. Or to put a (slightly) more charitable face on it, I'd rather code, and play with my kid, and web-surf, and read, and doodle arround on the piano. Not all at the same time of course.
The point of OSS (to me at least) isn't that I always do things myself, but that I have that option, and at varrious levels of granularity. I eat out most meals, but I'd be annoyed if I didn't have a stove in the house, or some unpaved dirt in the back where I could plant things. But I'm still willing to let the folks at RedHat, etc. cook for me if they want to.
-- MarkusQ
Great, I wish them luck... (Score:2, Interesting)
Otherwise... I stick with slackware.. I can upgrade X without blowing the machine up.. i can upgrade GCC without blowing everything up, and perl -mCPAN doesnt blow the hell out of your perl install when it cant detect perl and re-installs it because it thinks you need an upgrade because some moron at Redhat thought that putting perl in a non-standard location is a smart idea. (Yes, I took that cheap-shot.. whoever put perl where it is in redhat needs to be called a MORON. any decision that breaks standard tools for no reason deserves public ridicule.)
Slackware... Less headaches more productivity for the advanced user.
Re:3 disks of sheer joy..... (Score:5, Interesting)
Exchange connector costs almost $70 - which means your Redhat 7.3 package will costs you something around ~$130..
Another thing - Ximian RPMS simply break things (although I heard from one of the developers there that this will be fixed very soon) - try to install the Ximian RPMS for mozilla (for example), and then upgrade them with a newer version of Mozilla, not from Ximian.. bzzt - RPM will tell you that Ximian RPMS are newer, despite the fact that it's wrong..
Also, don't forget - they ARE competitors - both sell competing services (up2date VS. Red-Carpet) to their clients at the same prices, so why would RedHat bundle their competitor stuff into their distribution? that doesn't makes any sence..
Re:your sig (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Great, I wish them luck... (Score:5, Interesting)
Currently in version 1.1a, it's the coolest Linux to come along in a decade and includes an amazing Portage system that is the best (apt-get / BSD ports)-like package management system ever created.
Come on over to [irc.openprojects.net channel #gentoo] and see for yourself what all the fuss is about.
dumb question (Score:3, Interesting)
If you just stay current with something like Red Carpet or Up2Date, do you basically end up with 7.3 eventually? Or do you need the cds to 'upgrade'?
No more redhat for me... (Score:1, Interesting)
If you haven't tried Gentoo already give it a try. You really aught to have a PII or greater, and a fat pipe.
Re:The entire reason to upgrade is KDE. (Score:2, Interesting)
The nice thing was that when I wanted to upgrade to kde3, it was no problem. I wanted to do the same on my mandrake 8.2 and redhat 7.2 installs, but somehow it seemed more trouble than it was worth after typing emerge kde on the gentoo box, going to sleep and waking up with kde3 installed...
Then again, I'll be upgrading to 7.3 once the (non-beta) iso is available (not on my production server tho, really don't need kde for a mail/print/web server.)
Beta or Release (Score:2, Interesting)
Heck M$ does it all the time and makes money on each minor revision.
9.0 ? (was Re:Why 7.3?) (Score:2, Interesting)
the next RH after 7.3 will be RH 9.0
reason : the others already 8.x but with binary compatibility. with 7.x
It's will be easier to differentiate 7.x/8.x binary with 9.x binary.
Re:8.0 will follow (Score:2, Interesting)
Some people don't like GUI tools for administering their computers, but they are around and they are here to stay. People actually use them.
If you look at SuSE's boot process, it's really nice. It contains everything Red Hat does, but it's extremely much nicer.
If Red Hat doesn't improve on this, they'll lose the big market.
Dybdahl.