SuSE 8.0 Now Shipping 298
MobyTurbo writes "Well, it's technically a day late, but SuSE Linux 8.0 is now shipping. The increase from 7.3 to 8.0 is due to the inclusion of KDE 3.0, a SuSE-modified kernel version 2.4.18 (with Andre's VM), an improved firewall, among other packages that have been upgraded or added. (Including a couple of new games. :-) )"
Eeezzzzy (Score:2, Interesting)
x86 only? (Score:2, Interesting)
chris
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Mandrake 8.2 also shipping... (Score:2, Interesting)
Does SuSE 8.0 include StarOffice 6.0 as well?
Version numbers (Score:2, Interesting)
Maybe companies should be forced to number their distros based on the average version number of the packages within; that'd cause an interesting non-linear numbering scheme.
jh
Lycoris... (Score:2, Interesting)
Any affiliation with MS? Just wondering, cause I saw this at the bottom:
Lycoris and Desktop/LX are Trademarks of Redmond Linux Corp. © 2001, 2002 Lycoris All Rights Reserved
Re:Reviews... (Score:2, Interesting)
Like Red Hat, SuSE releases their own patched version of the Linux kernel which have always been extremely fast and reliable (in my experience) and their installation is easy. The other nice thing is the setup tool, Yast2, it's the best integrated setup/control center tool I've seen yet.
The nice thing about SuSE is that everything just works. SuSE offers upgrades to KDE and GNOME that can be downloaded and installed automatically with Yast Online Update on the same day that KDE and GNOME annouce their new releases. They are definitely on top of things. Also, Yast can be used to configure just about every aspect of the system, no need whatsoever to edit config files.
Another nice thing about SuSE is that it's Oracle certified. SuSE offers a nice rpm that sets the system up for installing and running Oracle, making installation as simple as on Windows (at least for 9i).
I've tried Red Hat, Mandrake, SuSE and debian and I am happiest by far with SuSE. It has easier config tools than Mandrake, the speed and reliability of Red Hat, and the advantage that it is commercially supported by many companies, meaning that if a product claims it will run on linux, it WILL run on SuSE Linux. :-)
RedHat to Suse (Score:3, Interesting)
I was hoping to wait for RH7.3, but perhaps this is a better option.
My real question is how hard will I have to work to move accross all my configs? There's samba/printers/sendmail/etc/etc. Anyone know of a good way of doing RH->Suse without any pain?
Re:Been Shipping for a couple of weeks already! (Score:4, Interesting)
Amen - I want to develop the software I get paid for or I want to play with, and I want to have my servers working rock solid without devoting myself 24/7 to them. SuSE offers a very solid base, incredibly logically laid out system, very stable releases (I'm even trusting the x,0 release here), and not only fast security updates, but software version updates for quite a bit of software, even for releases several minor version old.
It allows me to get my work done, and provides a nice CLI, GUI and "install and ignore" server experience. Plus, if you're doing enterprise work, check out their more powerful packages (the ones that start at $1000 and move on up). They provide the packages for IBM's enterprise applications, not to mention the Linux for IBM's big iron. Simply having a team that can provide the necessary QA and support to big customers makes me feel confidant as a minor customer of theirs.
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Evan
Re:Mandrake 8.2 also shipping... (Score:2, Interesting)
Source: The SuSE 8.0 Professional box on my desk.
Re:Mandrake 8.2 also shipping... (Score:2, Interesting)
Too bad that they were unable to strike a deal like Mandrake did with Sun. SO 6.0 would be a very good addition to KDE 3.0 and stuff.
Odd thing is that SuSe usually has a very good connections to other companies (read: SuSe Linux Database Server = IBM DB2 UDB + distro, SuSe Groupware Server = Lotus Domino + distro, SuSe Certified Oracle 9i
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PMC
Inquiring Minds Want to Know (Score:3, Interesting)
Thing is, I could never get these parameters set exactly right. It was always tempting to bypass this procedure and configure the system the old-fashioned way.
So here's my question: does SuSE still do things this way? And if so, do people really use these parameters, or do they just blow it off and edit the scripts?
Re:Lycoris... (Score:4, Interesting)
I have an order in for Lycoris Desktop Developer edition, (Developers! Developers! Developers! Developers!) and I will probably comment on my experiences with the distro in my column at Low End PC as soon as I get some time with it.
I think it's hilarious that these guys are based in Redmond. I don't think that MS is quaking in their boots just yet, but if this is what the Lycoris site claims, they might have reason to in the future.
Oh yeah, just so I correct a mistake I made about this distro in the past...it is based on Caldera, not Corel/Debian.
Re:SuSE 8.0 (Score:2, Interesting)
chess
Re:SuSE is not free (Score:1, Interesting)
Legally speaking, as long as no licenses are violated, SuSE can do whatever it wants. Technically speaking, I do think that SuSE should at least make YaST's source code available; after all, there may be some excellent ideas there that we can all profit from. Nonetheless, I don't think we should count it as a strike against them that YaST is closed-source.
I agree with "use the best tool for the job, preferring open-source and/or free software when possible," so if SuSE happens to be the best tool, I will use it. If not, I won't.
SuSE is a really good server platform (Score:3, Interesting)
SuSE is really good for those of us that are starting because it comes with a NICELY documented book(s) explaining a lot of the basics and the medium difficulty stuff.
They also usually have a tech in their IRC room who will answer questions for you.
In the end I really like SuSE. It's done everything I've required and more. I usually use it as a server without a graphical front end, but even on my two workstations with the graphics, it installed nicely and didn't require me to know more than I need to know to use the systems. And one of them was a laptop.
Two thumbs up!