LinuxToday Editor Apologizes For Astroturfing 226
Thanks to Dean Pannell (and Paul Ferris for the initial head's up) for pointing out the apology and statement of fact from Kevin Reichard, the Executive Editor of LinuxToday. I think the argument that people would know that "George Tirebiter" was merely a contrivance is weak, but whatever. You can read the previous stories in the astroturf [?] ing saga.
Didn't this guy use more than one alias. (Score:2, Insightful)
How about mentioning the fact that he's been doing this for years, or that he caused others to be fired when they complained. Maybe he could talk about this being common practice in the industry. Links to every single false post would have really shown some remorse.
Seems to me that this is an attempt to wind down the negative spin, without really understanding what has been done wrong, or really wanting to/feeling the need to apologise. As my mum always said, if your not really sorry then apologising is worse than saying nothing.
If he had posted this on /. and I had mod then I'd be modding him down for facuous statements and insincere apologies.
Astroturfing? This is normal practice. (Score:3, Insightful)
Part of my job description as the maintainer of a chunk of the site hierarchy was to use a whole stack of pseudonyms and basically wander around doing just this in the interest of generating page views, responses, and "positive" discussion for advertisers and reviewed products in a number of areas. This was not optional, it was expected.
I'd be surprised if this is a rare practice.
This is an editor? (Score:2, Insightful)
> "I participated in Linux Today talkbacks anonymously in the past using a pseudonym."
> "It is too important you can trust what you read here."
Judging from the reaction at Slashdot, you went from simply evil to under-qualified and evil.
Wrong type of apology, bucko (Score:5, Insightful)
I sincerely apologize to those of you who were offended by my actions.
Mom: Now Kevin, apologize to Suzie for what you did!
Kevin: I'm sorry that you don't like your pigtails dipped in permanent ink, Suzie.
He's apologizing that we were offended by his actions, not for his actions themselves. Big difference there.
thank you (Score:3, Insightful)
Hopefully the
Re:that forced sound (Score:2, Insightful)
"It is too important you can trust what you read here."
I guess in English you can omit the 'that' between 'important' and 'you', but that sentence doesn't roll off the tongue very easily. It might also be more convincing if it were to say,
It is important *to me* that you can trust what you read here.
As it stands, I'm not convinced that it is important to him--just that it was important in a vague sort of way.
George Tirebiter (Score:3, Insightful)
In RealSpace, he was "the doughty unofficial mascot of USC (Univ. South. Calif.) athletic teams in earlier times, renowned for his devotion to attacking the spinning wheels of large American automobiles...."
In the Firesign Theater world, he's the Everyman protaganist of the comedy album "Don't Crush That Dwarf, Hand Me The Pliers" (which appears to be out of print, although I found a cassette in a local record store). It's high comedy from Firesign Theater, a team that was known for a counter-cultural radio program in the sixties. It's very funny, but requires FULL attention, a strong liberal arts background, and occassionaly several listens, to get a large percentage of the jokes.
Check out the entry for DWARF [earthlink.net] to get a feel for the humor.
That said, even though I got the reference, I don't think seeing a post under the name George Tirebiter would make me think "Oh - It's the editor!" or "He's just joking!". I would instead think "This guy is a pretty poor satirist - it's like posting under 'Chaucer'".
Circular reasoning anyone? (Score:5, Insightful)
ahem. Basic logic please.
It does not follow that, because moderators have moderated the parent to your post down to zero, that those moderators were slashdot editors. Far more likely that slashdot readers with moderator priveleges modded the post down as the flaimbait it certainly appeared to be (to me at least, although I do not have moderator priveleges right now).
The slashdot editors are the ones who decide which stories get posted (decisions I disagree with as often as not BTW), not those readers who happen to have moderator priveleges at a given moment.
Re:astroturf[?]ing ???? (Score:1, Insightful)
that forced sound (Score:4, Insightful)
Plus it contains grammatical mistakes, which looks kind of bad when your job title includes "editor".
Serious matter (Score:5, Insightful)
Doesn't sound like much of an apology (Score:4, Insightful)
There are good reasons to post anonymously under some circumstances, but I don't think he gives any here. How would the debate have been any less "lively" if he had acknowledged the source of his comments all along?
Excuse me? (Score:5, Insightful)
As if we should believe him? I'm well aware of the current state of today's media. Journalistic integrity is a word that most media reporters and editors seem to have forgotten.
However, this is totally out of line, even by today's standards. Someone looking at his apology would think that he had just committed minor infractions. No, he was busily posting nastygrams about competitors and rivals [linuxjournal.com].
He should just resign and get the heck out.
'crow
Re:George Tirebiter (Score:3, Insightful)
I doubt anyone thought George Tirebiter was someone's real name...
Nobody cares that these troll posts were made using an alias, per se, they care that the person using the alias to post trolls was also an editor. The name he used, and its ability to be easily recognized as a pseudonym are totally irrelevant.
Not much of an apology... (Score:2, Insightful)
A lot of the talkbacks left on the page so far really astound me, how can these people be so quick to forgive something like this. Personnaly, I would find it hard to trust anything this guy, or Linux Today publishes.
Re:As if a /. editor has ANY room to talk (Score:3, Insightful)
Reichard should be fired. (Score:5, Insightful)
This speaks for itself. I have no respect for this man, or how he has behaved on their forums. Internet.com should fire the man posthaste.
--Maynard
Re:astroturf[?]ing ???? (Score:3, Insightful)
It is their site and therefore it is NOT up to MS (or SmartTags) to modify