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Around 3-4 TB... (Score:1)
Most of that is (in order of largest to smallest):
1) uncompressed HD live-air recordings of television programs (most of Lost, Laker games, etc...) 2) Blu-ray movie rips 3) Music 4) Porn
It's interesting that porn is now the low man on the totem-pole, data-wise.
Re:Around 3-4 TB... (Score:2)
Re:Around 3-4 TB... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Around 3-4 TB... (Score:2)
Getting a girlfriend will do that.
Getting a girlfriend to do that... priceless.
Re:Around 3-4 TB... (Score:3)
Many porn stars don't bring work home. They're still a lot more adept at the whole sex thing than your usual housewife, particularly in technique and experience, but it's sort of like your family asking you to fix their computers for them. I like computers, but it irritates me to no end having to work on their slow machines with their, uh, very small hard drives.
Seriously, though, porn stars are sex workers much like prostitutes are. Indeed, the difference between a porn star and a mid to high class hooker is mostly a matter of legalities and perception. They're both faking enjoying some guy or girl having sex with them for money. And many sex professionals after awhile become pretty jaded about sex so that it can become difficult for them to turn that aspect off even in private with their significant others.
Re:Around 3-4 TB... (Score:2)
"the difference between a porn star and a mid to high class hooker is mostly a matter of legalities and perception."
not even close.
Porn Stars do it as a masturbatory experience for people not physically participating the the sex act.
Prostitution involve the physical act with their customer.
Emotionally different things.
Re:Around 3-4 TB... (Score:2)
If you think the average John has an emotional connection to the girl he rents by the hour you're kidding yourself. Prostitution laws exist because:
1) It is hard to regulate/government to get its fair cut
and, probably more importantly:
2) Religious views/the fantasy that sex has to involve a deep emotional connection must likely only possible via marriage is so ingrained in the ca 1700 legal systems of many countries.
Re:Around 3-4 TB... (Score:3)
I don't see a vast difference.
Re:Around 3-4 TB... (Score:2)
Possibly an important difference is that the person they do it with on camera is being supervised and theoretically screened such that he's not carrying some form of STD, and there are enough other guys around that there won't be any violence. A prostitute doesn't have any of those same comforts.
Re:Around 3-4 TB... (Score:2)
Re:Around 3-4 TB... (Score:2)
Very difficult to compare as prostitution is illegal in most places I've lived, but I'm unclear of the exact laws governing porn. I know in NYC prostitution was illegal period, and porn was regulated, at least when I was there.
Regardless the fundamental equation isn't changed, legal or no. In porn you have two (or frequently more) supervised, screened parties both of which are in it for the money and likely want to continue doing business together as long as they remain financially viable. Prostitution, as it is usually practiced for your average guy, doesn't have those same benefits.
Re:Around 3-4 TB... (Score:2)
Very difficult to compare as prostitution is illegal in most places I've lived, but I'm unclear of the exact laws governing porn.
NZ is one of the few "major" industrialized nations with recently legalized prostitution. It's illegal for a prostitute to have unprotected solicited sex (for the safety of both parties), and there are unions and such around it. Laws to protect the workers from the abuses often handed down by pimps, and lots of restrictions on visas (a student could work in retail or office work to help cover costs, but I think it's illegal for someone on a student visa to work in the sex industry). Though legalized, the number of illegal prostitutes isn't small. There are still some underage prostitutes, and those without proper work visas, and some who will have unprotected sex (even if just oral) for a premium fee. But overall, NZ is one of the safest places to be a prostitute (safe from harm by clients, pimps, as well as from disease). Porn in CA is mostly unprotected, but they go in for tests about 2-days before a shoot, test everyone, and have clean results from everyone before shooting. I'd imagine prostitutes and actresses alike are on the pill, but there is also a class of porn just of pregnant women, and some of those are (or were) active actresses at the time, not just pregnant women who thought it would be cool to get into porn.
Regardless the fundamental equation isn't changed, legal or no. In porn you have two (or frequently more) supervised, screened parties both of which are in it for the money and likely want to continue doing business together as long as they remain financially viable. Prostitution, as it is usually practiced for your average guy, doesn't have those same benefits.
So you think that corporate sales teams are in a vastly different situation than a car salesman? How does it matter?
Re:Around 3-4 TB... (Score:2)
Re:Around 3-4 TB... (Score:2)
Maybe you can't just lump everyone together. First days in boot camp, the DI tells us, "Each of you decided to join for your own reasons. Everyone has different reasons. One or two of you joined because a judge was going to send you to prison. A couple more joined for adventure. A half dozen of you joined because you couldn't find a job. There are thousands of reasons, and some of you may have a hundred of your own reasons. But, now that you're here, no one gives a damn - you maggots now exist to please me, and Uncle Sam."
So, what do hookers, porn stars, and sailors all have in common?
I suppose that if you interviewed a few hundred hookers, and a few hundred porn stars, you'd find that each of them has their own combination of reasons for doing what they do. Some do it by choice, others are probably bullied by pimps, and others are pressured by economic necessity. You simply can't say that they're all the same.
Let's not forget that some people enjoy the hell out of sex. I wouldn't expect basement dwelling nerds to understand a woman's needs, or wants. I overheard one woman say something to the effect, "Hey, I like screwing. Why not get paid for doing something I want to do anyway? It beats my last job, sitting in an office all day, fighting off my creepy boss, and trying to explain to his wife that we were NOT having an affair."
Re:Around 3-4 TB... (Score:3)
Of course. At first I didn't know, but eventually I started to catch on that no matter how old I was, my Mom was always 18.
Re:Around 3-4 TB... (Score:2)
Perhaps it is because they are more than the average person likely to be married to a porn star with a huge member and endurance to last for a feature length film in a threesome.
I wonder how much of overall happiness is just celebrity/money factor? Take say a famous software developer worth ~1-5M which is my rough guess of a very successful adult stars networth: who's happier?
Re:Around 3-4 TB... (Score:5, Insightful)
I seriously doubt you are storing *uncompressed* HD recordings.
OTA HD is already highly compressed MPEG-2. Uncompressed HD video is ~200-400GB/hour depending on 720p vs 1080i. So one 1080i Lakers game would be about a terabyte by itself :)
Re:Around 3-4 TB... (Score:2)
Re:Around 3-4 TB... (Score:2)
I have a friend at PDI/Dreamworks who said they store all of their master rendered frames in JPEG high quality. Often compresses the frames by 5-10x with no noticeable degradation.
Re:Around 3-4 TB... (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Around 3-4 TB... (Score:2)
Mah, getting full scenes particularly if you are looking for a particular scene can be hard. You might find it then a couple months later look for it and it has been DMCA'd out of existence. Why waste another 10 min searching only to be disappointed when you could just save the thing in the first place? Don't need to save everything but a few for the slow web days never hurts (until it does ... but then you can't really call it a slow day right?).
Re:Around 3-4 TB... (Score:2)
By "your data" (Score:5, Insightful)
By "your data", do you mean the data I own and use, or the data the marketing monkeys have accumulated about me?
Re:By "your data" (Score:3)
...Or the data that simply resides on my storage? Is OS included? Installed applications? Games? Only personal stuff? Family stuff too?
Re:By "your data" (Score:5, Interesting)
I figured it was as simple as my data is whatever that is not somebody else's data, and how much it takes up means it's space used not unique data. My breakdown:
Total: ~12 TB
Single copies of various entertainment: ~6.5TB
Hard to find things: 2x ~2TB
Personal things: 2x ~500GB + partially offsite
The 6.5 TB I basically consider a cache to the Internet, and I'm probably wouldn't replace it if the disk crashed but if I've already downloaded it... why not put it on a 3 TB drive in case I want to watch it again. I guess I'll probably have to do some house cleaning soon since I only have 500GB free, or maybe I'll just add another disk as it's usually less hassle. The good thing about being a digital hoarder is that it can still usually fit in a maxi-tower...
Re:By "your data" (Score:2)
Rainbow tables and online backups take up an awful lot of space.
Between my three servers, I easily go past 20 TB, and that's not counting backup tapes, DVDs and other offline storage, nor PCs and laptops.
Disk space in use (Score:2)
Re:By "your data" (Score:2)
Also, does the data you licence count?
Re:By "your data" (Score:3)
I like the working definition of "your data" being that which is somehow uniquely yours...like photos, videos, documents, audio, code, art, logs, etc.
Everything else is just a local cache of something which is not "your" data.
Re:By "your data" (Score:2)
If the original media is part of my personal property then it's still "my" data.
I bought it. I own it. It's mine. Personal property rights for the unwashed masses still means something at least for the time being.
Re:By "your data" (Score:2)
I think the point was that what we usually consider "our" data is what's worth backing up. I own my Steam titles and the songs I've purchased from various online services, but I have no reason to bother backing them up since I can easily re-download any of them direct from the source on demand. I own my OSes, but I never back up my system drive because it's almost as easy to just reinstall these days with image-based installers loaded to USB drives.
Sure, if by slight chance one of these services happens to disappear off the face of the earth soon after I have a disk failure, it'll be more of a challenge but since I own the content anyways there's no legal problem with acquiring it from other sources. Other than Steam titles I don't have anything DRMed, and Steam's DRM is pretty much implemented as nicely as it can be now that they've fixed the shutdown problem that plagued offline mode for years.
Re:By "your data" (Score:2)
You don't own that media, you have no property rights with regards to the media, you have purchased the right to use it and been given a physical copy of the media to facilitate that.
Re:By "your data" (Score:2)
And moreover, are we limiting this to computer files? What about my music CDs (both pressed and burned)? Do those count? I have a huge collection of live concert recordings in high-quality (never been subject to lossy-compression)--most originally from DAT. Also, DVDs.
What about books? Sure, text is compact, but I have a lot. And what about comic books? If I digitized those, they'd probably take up a fair amount of storage. Especially if I wanted to retain anything near the quality they have now.
I hav many terabytes (Score:2)
and some of it is in the (a) cloud. The location of the data isn't the question. Oh, right another dumb ass spouting of an insult that underscores their ignorance.
Well done.
Re:I hav many terabytes (Score:3)
Inorite? Cloud, local - All the same thing, effectively. These whiners need to STFU.
Now me, I kept all my backups on megaupload.com. Sure, I can't get to them at present... But hey, what more could I ask than having my backups under the direct care of the FBI?
Re:I hav many terabytes (Score:2)
The only cloud I trust is the one providing the rain that's feeding my torrent client...
Re:I hav many terabytes (Score:2)
Of course it's not the same thing, but it's not about local, it's about the total amount of data.
"As 2012 comes to a halt, my data takes up"
Where does that imply location?
I have no idea why your megaload statement is relevant.
Redundancy (Score:2)
I have ~350gb of photos and video from the past 8 years but I have it stored in 2 locations, does that count at 700gb?
Re:Redundancy (Score:5, Funny)
I have 2 bits.
Re:Redundancy (Score:4, Funny)
But the number of copies and ordering of those copies is significant.....
Re:Redundancy (Score:2)
I have ~350gb of photos and video from the past 8 years but I have it stored in 2 locations, does that count at 700gb?
I've got intentional redundant copies, too. I don't think they count, even though the digital space they consume does count in terms of data, money and mass. But I've almost certainly got redundant copies of photos and video that I've saved in multiple locations, but not necessarily intentionally. Does that count? Does it only count if I know for sure that they're redundant, or whether or not I do? Is it a Schrodinger's Cat like situation?
Re:Redundancy (Score:2)
Fractal hard drives, the more accurately you measure your drive the more space it has!
My eData (Score:2)
Efforting (Score:1)
Downsizing (Score:2)
I used to have about 1 TB spread across 3 hard drives. But then streaming video became easier and I no longer had to download all of my porn. Now I have about 50 GB.
Re:Downsizing (Score:2)
Streaming video services still provide inferior quality, inferior features, inferior user interfaces, and are subject to network outtages.
Local copies and physical media are going away no time soon for those of us that are more demanding or more discriminating.
I keep all my important financial data (Score:5, Funny)
on servers in eastern Europe and the Balkans. See? The s'kiddies think they "got me", but I'm just using them for off-site storage.
Re:I keep all my important financial data (Score:2)
Yeah, I use them for backing up my credit card info.
I have no idea. (Score:3)
Re:I have no idea. (Score:2)
The solution to that is Git-Annex: http://git-annex.branchable.com/ [branchable.com]
Re:I had no idea. (Score:2)
..I had so few files.
I checked with ALSI and I was *surprised* that I had 27 full GiB of personal files.
Then I read the all these TB-scale comments...
If you include the operating systems, I have about 50 GiB.
Re:I have no idea. (Score:2)
I have never used more than 40GB on a Hard Drive, ever. I assume this is because all my important stuff is all backed up to DVD and thumb drives. I store lots of downloaded .debs and such on DVD and I keep all my important, and frequently changed data on thumb drives. df says im using 16GB currently out of 250GB. Unless this Poll is about ALL Data...then it gets insane.
Fair enough. I've never kept more than a few bytes of data on clay tablets. The rest is backed up on paper.
Re:I have no idea. (Score:2)
......you still bother burning DVDs?
Re:floppies (Score:2)
Other than the five or six Gbytes of .jpgs on SDcard that I have backed onto three different computers, nearly all my .txt files are on floppies. I was just looking at buying a USB drive so I could archive them. Otherwise, just the Kid's games and a few .wavs of Other People's Music.
If the GF figures out, I'm toast, I just got a couple fresh HDDs for a bigger RAID.
Large sigma (Score:2)
Re:Large sigma (Score:3)
Go on, impress us: Provide a breakdown by each. Could you include GCHQ, Mossad and the FSB too.
If you're feeling really brave, throw in Amazon and Google.
Most important = small (Score:2)
Total ~150G... guess that's low end of the scale these days. :-)
But the funny thing is: what I consider most important, are also the smallest files. What takes up the most space (movies, in my case) is also the stuff that I wouldn't care much about if it were lost, and/or is easy to re-create from original media.
Bottom line: what really matters, is a small subset that easily fits on an USB stick. And has done so for a number of years now (and my backup strategy reflects that). So who cares about all those GB's or TB's you've got on top of that? As long as USB sticks are cheap and I'm not juggling stacks of CD's / DVD's all day long, I'm good.
Re:Most important = small (Score:2)
yeah, I have smaller versions of my collection for smaller drives, with the most important stuff being on the smaller drives for the most part. It's amazing how little space the personal documents use up compared to the music collection.
7.46GB USB drive (5.22GB used), 74.5GB main hard drive (67.1GB used), 849GB secondary hard drive (302GB used, including a backup of the main hard drive)
/home (Score:1)
I took it to mean the contents of my home dir. I think pretty much everything I would call "my data" is in there somewhere. Takes up 150GB.
Over a half of a TB! (Score:2)
On my two home computers. Most are used up by videos. :(
2 TB (Score:1)
Ripping my DVD collection to hard drive as I type this. After that I start scanning my technical books and saving them in pdf format.
Ganty
My Data? (Score:2)
My data is very little. Most of what people call "my data" isn't all that unique. Pictures and documents mostly. I actually have very little data, because I trim it and don't keep the 1000s of pictures I snap because only a few are worth keeping*. Most of my unique data is text based, or stuck in a database somewhere, and doesn't even approach 1 GB.
People are packrats, and keep everything and think everything they have is "unique", when it is not unique at all.
Re:My Data? (Score:2)
*Pictures worth keeping = pictures I use or view on any regular basis. Pictures of scenery and stuff aren't all that unique. Pictures with people and situations are unique, but planned pictures are boring.
Too many ways to answer. (Score:2)
Data at home? Not counting music, about a gig and a half. If you add the music I'm over 100 GB. I'm not sure if music counts as 'data'.
Data at work? Over 1000 TB, and in the cloud.
If 'data' means everything.... (Score:2)
If it's the important stuff: 780MB (backup of mails since 2001 + textfiles + 3 spreadsheets)
I feel so inadequate (Score:2)
Well I chose over 10TB (Score:2)
I have well over that. /actual important data/ which is effectively priceless or irreplacable?
However
I believe it's somewhere around 20gb.
Before you answer, do not forget CD and DVD! (Score:2)
The poll becomes quickly unbalanced when you realize "your data" REALLY needs to encompass not just data on your computer, but also ever CD, DVD and BluRay you own. Those things are yours, they hold data that you purchased to own and that by law you can re-sell. So it counts.
Multiple answers (Score:2)
Home:
~2TB total
120GB of that is in my backup set (the DVR files aren't worth backing up)
Work:
~90TB raw storage in my primary array
~70TB used at primary site
~19.5TB in the backup set
Re:Multiple answers (Score:2)
I created very little of it but I AM responsible for it so I consider it my data and treat it accordingly =)
RANDOM (Score:2)
I keep my data, with strong encryption, in /dev/random
Re:RANDOM (Score:2)
With or Without Backups of Software (Score:2)
I have two 80 GB physical hard drives: C and D. All my software is loaded onto C. All my data get written to D.
During my weekly backups, I backup C to D and D to C. If one fails, I can restore onto a new hard drive. Actually, I divide the backups as follows:
On D:
C Windows
C State and Desktop
C non-Windows software
On C:
D non-photo data
D photos
In a cycle of backups, I do one complete and the rest incremental. I retain two complete cycles of complete and incremental of each. Encrypted copies of all backups are on a removable hard drive stored remotely. Yes, I skip doing backups some weeks; and I often skip doing the backup of photos if I have added only a few new ones.
If I look at the properties of my D drive, it indicates almost 48 GB in use. If I subtract all the backups of C, I have a little over 17 GB on D. The bytes required for backups of Windows alone exceed the bytes of non-backup data on my D drive.
About 300GB of data total (Score:2)
Although, I could be a smartarse: my genetic code would only take up about 100GB, add on another 10% maybe for epigenetic markers.
Most of the 300GB is music, photos and TV/Movies. Probably games as well, and a very small proportion of it being text based assignments. Extrapolating from the size of a HTML version of War and Peace, I've probably got another GB or two on my bookshelf, which is actually the data I enjoy the most.
I'd also be curious as to how much "data" the memories and behaviour patterns that make up me would take up, since with the exception of a few GB of photos, none of the other data is really irreplaceable. Any brave neurologist want to take an estimate? Or an overconfident computer scientist?
Re:About 300GB of data total (Score:2)
Your genetic code takes up about 10K
ZING!
An exercise for packrats (Score:2)
A good exercise is to move all your data into a big enough external hard drive (make another mirror if cautious). Then over the next months, you pull data back from there whenever you need it. The idea is to see how much of your stuff you really miss, and what is junk that you actually never need.
counting only MY data (Score:2)
other stuff like source code doesn't even rate a mention.
I'm not counting media libraries, which is other-person generated content I can re-retrieve from elsewhere.
2.4 TB (Score:2)
Where's the "I have no clue" option? (Score:2)
My data is spread out over backup drives sitting the garage, current external backup, network backup to a NAS, laptops, desktops, etc. You name a backup or storage method, and I'm sure I have some once-important but now forgotten data on it somewhere in storage. I think I have a Zip disc or two. Still have a stack of 3.5 floppy with an old project on there.
I can see my self on "Hoarders."
"Next up on Hoarders, he can't seem to throw away any sort of data."
"Dad, you have 18 copies of Windows XP."
"But I need them all, there's the original one, the one with SP1 and my special Microsoft mailed out copy of SP2 in it's original mailing envelope. Plus all the slipstream versions. I need them all!!!"
"What about this AmiPro? What's that?"
"Only the best word processor ever."
"You have an unopened copy of Falcon 3.0 on floppy"
"It's a classic, don't you dare break the seal."
Yes, I do have an unopened Falcon 3.0. Found it when CompUSA went out of business for $5.
How tall is that in 5081 Punched Cards ? (Score:2)
At roughly 35 miles high per TB... assuming no compression... My data reaches nicely past the Mesophere.. into Outer SPAAACCEEE ! Of course if those Gazillion punched cards got sucked into the jet stream, the resultant shade would blot out the sun and cause global cooling on a massive scale. Hmm...
Back in the day... (Score:2)
I kept all my backups in an SVN repo on docsrvb.mysql.com... Good times.
Pr0n (Score:2)
Data about me or data I use? (Score:2)
Well if it's data about me (i.e. movies I've made of events, photos, copies of movies that I have around etc etc), then it's a few TB. But if it's data that I actively use, then the whole of LHC recorded data would add to it taking it to a bunch of PB instead, but that's not just mine (though I could take the analysis skims that I've created, those could be maybe listed as mine, that's a few hundred TB).
Decided to vote for the 1-5TB one still :P
It's the photos that are the killer (Score:2)
Over the past 15 years I've taken 627,212,222,126 bytes of photos, and short movies with my various cameras. I've given up on using RAW files, and now stick with basic JPEG compression, so the rate of accumulation is fairly stable. I'm now able to fit it all in a laptop drive, and the mirror of it fits nicely in a single USB external drive.
Assuming I don't go nuts with video, storage continues to get bigger and cheaper at at least 25%/year, and laptops don't get completely obsoleted, I'll always have my photos in my laptop for the rest of my life, with room to spare. 8)
I didn't add the overhead (Score:2)
I have about a gig of data, but the items that hold that data have overheads totalling over 15GB
Storing Video In The Cloud (Score:2)
The only devices I care about are Windows 7/8 and Android devices greater than 4.0. Any other type of device I use doesn't matter too much.
Personal vs Work (Score:2)
Personal, less than a terabyte.
Work, petabytes bitches!
RAID6 FTW (Score:2)
Comment removed (Score:2)
Depends... (Score:2)
I suppose I really need to find -all- my data and put it on a 1.5 TB external HDD and do backups from that...
Re:definition of my data? (Score:3)
Re:definition of my data? (Score:5, Insightful)
Depending on the contractual agreement.
It isn't the technology, it is how the companies agree to do business.
Cloud Backup can be like your safety deposit box where the bank will protect your valuables on your behalf. Or it could be a pawn shop where there is a time where it is protected and after that it is out of your control
how I read it (Score:2)
I interpreted that as "stuff I could re-pirate"
Re:definition of my data? (Score:3)
Let's use a couple of analogies from the physical world.
I put my stuff in a rented storage locker in a managed storage facility where I do not have a key, but have to request access. Think a bank safety deposit box, or a highly secure U-Store.
Other parties hold the keys, so by your ananlogy it's not my stuff anymore, and there should be no 4th amendment protections, right?
How about I decide to move, and the movers pack all of my stuff on a moving truck and then put their padlock on it. I can't access it until they unload, they hold the keys. Again, by your reasoning it's no longer my stuff, right?
In the physical world no one tolerates what you describe. To get into a bank safety deposit box a law officer must get a court order and present it to the bank. Anything left and the bank isn't opening my space, and isn't showing them what is in it. I have an expectation to privacy in the space I rented, nearly identical to if I was storing the items in my home.
In the digital world somehow the same standard hasn't developed. Apparently putting data on some companies servers to keep safe for you is tantamount to giving it away to them and you relinquishing all ownership of that data. Except we apply this rule unequally. When a movie studio uploads a digital movie to Netflix so they can stream it no one says it is no longer their movie, that somehow Netflix now has ownership of it. However if you or I make a home video and upload it to our G-Drive, or BackBlaze, suddenly that data is somehow property of the provider that they can just turn over to law enforcement on our behalf.
Your data is your data, regardless of where you put it. Your data is still your data if you pay someone else to guard it for you, be it a flash drive in a bank vault, or password protected volume on a cloud storage provider.
The legal path we're going down at this moment is going to turn out very badly, and fixing it is going to be quite messy.
Re:21st century version of compulsive hoarding (Score:2)
I'm not sure if you're talking about the 50gb discs, but I regularly buy even small amounts of 25GB discs for ~$1.25 ea (cheaper in bulk) Haven't had a coaster yet and they've worked just fine for presentations in theaters.
Re:21st century version of compulsive hoarding (Score:2)
Re:I've finally sorted out my backup worries. (Score:2)
hrm, high density magnetic media with its heavy bit rot, being transported with only a little bit of foam to protect it from concrete and long periods between backups? what could go wrong?
Re:Music is the major portion of it (Score:2)
You should consider FLAC encoding it. Totally lossless, but you'll cut the file size down to 50-60% of what it is. And an open-format, so you can store a copy of the source code for the decoder too.
Re:Don't forget your DNA (Score:2)
Re:10TB or More (Score:2)