Ubuntu 9 Is Jaunty Jackalope, Coming Next April 318
mr_3ntropy writes "Ars is reporting Mark Shuttleworth announced today that Ubuntu 9.04 will be called Jaunty Jackalope, to be released next April. It will focus on improving boot times and the convergence of desktop and web.
The 8.10 release, Intrepid Ibex, is coming next month with GNOME 2.24 and will include better support for subnotebooks."
Why is this important? (Score:3, Informative)
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http://ubuntusatanic.org/news/ [ubuntusatanic.org]
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Because Ubuntu Christian Edition damned them off Distrowatch?
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Trademark violation.
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Bah, I've got a good 10 years on 'em.
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"Where" you dropped on your head repeatedly as an infant?
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wow, read up on that one. Quite interesting. I'd love to see this go main page and see distrowatch get some heat for it.
Re:Why is this important? (Score:4, Insightful)
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Because the name is juvenile flamebait? The creator of the distro isn't a Satanist, and neither are the posters on his board. The only reason to name it thusly is to irritate a group of people pointlessly
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't that the whole point of satanism? I was under the impression that satanism (as told by Anton LaVey)was the father of flamebait, something to do with getting your message heard through scandal and gossip? That the group doesn't necessarily follow satanism doesn't make the goal any less satanic; I know plenty of people associated with other religons that don't follow said religon, hell (no pun intended) most people aren't aware of anything beyond the basic tenants of their faith (at least with regard to said faith). I don't know about this banning or why it happened, but if it's because of what you suggest the argument seems pretty weak.
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Rephrasing T.Jefferson. Private entities are free to ignore other religions.
You have the right to speak. Others have the right not to listen.
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It would be nice if they quit making low priority, and at times frankly pointless, changes and concentrated on making it both useful to users and a happy experience. From Gutsy to Hardy the applications presented in the toolbar changed - for no good reason as far as I can see, needlessly confusing users. At the same time basic UI improvements went undone. I was going to remove Evolution for someone until I saw what synaptic said would also need to be removed... choice ap
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Surprisingly, that's actually a remarkably bad idea. Users are not usability experts. They're also really really nice people. Once they've found out how to do something (on their own or aided), they'll think its their fault and they'll tell you want a nice system you've really got and how they'd be quite happy to use it. That is, unless you're unfortunate enough to get a bunch of geeks to be your participants. Not because there's anything wrong with geeks, but because geeks aren't the target of (Ubuntu/Gnom
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I can't wait (Score:2)
until version 24 comes out....
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Ubuntu Jack Bauer
If Jack Bauer says his name begins with the letter X, you better agree with him.
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Xstatic Xenu
Ubuntu Scientology Edition
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Masturbating Monkey? With a special focus on security?
I agree.. but... (Score:3, Funny)
Hard for new people to take it seriously as an OS when the naming scheme is that out there.
Stick to product numbers, futuristic ones are the best. For example: Ubuntu 2000. Fucking genius hitech name for the future. Have that name for free. I'm too busy trademarking "hurricane computing".
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If you're doing almost exactly one release per year, it's actually not at all bad as a naming convention.
Annual release naming (Score:4, Insightful)
If you're doing almost exactly one release per year, it's actually not at all bad as a naming convention.
At least it works for EA's Madden NFL product.
Re:I agree.. but... (Score:4, Funny)
Stick to product numbers, futuristic ones are the best. For example: Ubuntu 2000. Fucking genius hitech name for the future.
Hate to tell you this, but 2000 isn't the future anymore. We just got body cavity searches to buy a cup of coffee instead of jetpacks.
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Re:I agree.. but... (Score:5, Funny)
Hate to tell you this, but 2000 isn't the future anymore. We just got body cavity searches to buy a cup of coffee instead of jetpacks.
That would be Ubuntu 1984.
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The codenames are only officially used in development and the names of repositories, both of which will not be seen by "new people". ubuntu.com, the installer, and the default homepage all refer to "Ubuntu 8.04 LTS".
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I've seen this argument before, and it is disgustingly ironic. Codenames that are unrelated to what they describe have the advantage that they can describe something else if needed. For example, it was originally assumed that Ubuntu Dapper Drake would become 6.04 LTS. However, they delayed the release for a couple of months for stability reasons, and Dapper Drake became 6.06. If they had referred to Dapper Drake as 6.04 from the start, the change would have been more difficult. Also, codenames are easier to
Jackalope? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Jackalope? (Score:5, Funny)
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A laval newt.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newt [wikipedia.org]
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ob Python reference: A witch turned me into a newt once. Luckily, I got better.
Re:Jackalope? (Score:5, Funny)
Liar. Python doesn't do references. Use a list.
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You would prefer Jabberwock, perhaps?
Re:Jackalope? (Score:4, Funny)
Sassy Sasquatch?
Cheeky Chucacabra?
Moody Manbearpig?
Moving on to imaginary creatures now? (Score:2, Funny)
The translation of this name (Score:5, Funny)
In the PyWeek IRC room, one person found the translation for this name:
"I'm so rich I've gone to space so I can name this whatever the fuck I feel like."
Speed is important... (Score:5, Interesting)
But when I see Ubuntu and it boots slower than XP and... Well, feels slower than XP, I have to facepalm. Linux is supposed to be the faster one, it's supposed to be the one where you can say "Man, you use XP? It's so slow! Use Linux!", but with Ubuntu you can't really say that. Not that it's Ubuntu's fault, I put the blame on Gnome. The Gnome desktop is bulky and slow, your *panel* shouldn't be using CPU cycles constantly, or the amount of memory gnome-panel uses. There's alternatives for sure (And I'm not talking about KDE, it's almost as bad.), but you have to piece it together yourself because it isn't a single DE. I.E, Openbox WM, pypanel or bmpanel or lxpanel or lbpanel or one of those (I prefer pypanel and bmpanel), pcmanfm filenavigator (Can also set icons on the desktop and manage wallpapers), and on and on. There's tons of lightweight programs out there with the same abilities, just not packaged neatly together. But people are trying! Just have a look at crunchbang linux [crunchbang.org] and DEs like lxde [lxde.org]. Using this stuff, you can get that old 550mhz thinkpad you have in your closet up and running again, webbrowsing and e-mailing at lightning speeds. THIS, to me, is what Linux should represent. Not the slow bulky thing you have to buy a new computer for!
But about the other things with the new Ubuntu release, polishlinux has a great review of what Ubuntu alpha looks like right now, and what we can expect from it here [polishlinux.org].
Looks like nautilus is finally getting tabs, although the lighter pcmanfm has had tabs for awhile. I'm really excited about is improvements with the network manager and with xorg... Two places that really need improvement. Seems like wireless support improves with each release, and I hope it continues on that awesome path. And it seems that the kernel 2.6.27 will be out in time for this release! It's already on rc5, and most kernels don't go past rc10 before release (And they're releasing an rc once a week, or about once a week).
It's all very exciting, but again the one thing I hope for more than anything else is speed and bloat! Keep Linux the OS that you say "You don't even have to get a new computer for it. It's fast, unlike Vista/XP/OSX/Everythingever", please please please
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I'd rather have a linux version that is more user friendly for installing apps, instead of having to google instructions each time I want to install stuff that isn't in synaptic.
I mean cmon, do I really have to open the terminal and type 4-5 command lines each time plus my root pw?
Installing stuff should be as easy as click, are you sure? yes/no.
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I suggest searching for the program you can't find here [getdeb.net]
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Fundamentally, a binary package is a set of files to be installed in specific locations. Those specific locations are built into relationships between files, both within packages and between packages. Between packages is an important part of the equation -- it allows the entire system to run a set of shared binary libraries. If every application carried it's own version of gtk or other libraries and didn't share RAM, the modern desktop would be unworkable.
What companies want is a single binary to run on "Li
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This is why people rail against binary blobs. Everyone replies with "what's the harm?"...but everyone's going to get bitten hard by a situation like that, and most of the time it's because they didn't have option of just building from source.
Which, by the way, us
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Mod parent up. I was getting annoyed that no-one seemed to care about anything except what they named the release! I was starting to think I was on a PHB forum!
Ubuntu's marketing department (Score:5, Funny)
must have nixed "Jaunty Jackass". :(
I'm waiting for Yiffy Yak (Score:2)
Now that will be AWESOME, even though a yiffy yak sounds like a very scary thing.
Don't you know your Dr. Seuss? (Score:2)
It's a Yawning Yellow Yak
(and Young Yolanda Yorgenson is yelling on his back)
Any 5 year old will tell you... (Score:2)
... that a jackalope is easily recognizable from his debut in Pixar's Boundin' [pixar.com] short.
Thanks Slashdot! (Score:3, Funny)
Better J names (Score:3, Funny)
1. Jumping Joey
2. Jaded Jackal
3. Justice Jaguar
Ubuntu/PPC Community Needed (Score:5, Insightful)
Canonical, the corporation that owns the Ubuntu distro (ie, Red Hat Inc's and Microsoft's direct competitor), has dropped official support of PowerPC from its work. Which means that PPC architecture versions of Ubuntu are falling behind, even to the point where the kernel in the latest releases cannot boot on PPC machines. PPC isn't just old Macs and powerful dedicated workstations. It's also the main core in many supercomputers, lots of embedded CPU devices, and the Sony PS3. Those machines need more active work to keep Ubuntu working on them.
But PPC is still supported as part of the Ubuntu project as a community effort, which is what Open Source is all about. If you've got some spare cycles, or even better some independently developed PPC code, to help Ubuntu keep running on the PowerPC architecture, please join the people supporting the community distro [ubuntu.com].
Darn, when is ManBearPig coming? (Score:3, Funny)
I want to see Al Gore get involved. How about a ManBearPig release?
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TFS? (n/t) (Score:2)
sad days...
Guessing the new name is fun... (Score:4, Funny)
Oh well, trying to guess the new name is making waiting for each update more fun. Maybe Microsoft should try using names. I guess they could try to be different and start with Zoosporangium Zebra and work backwards.
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Not to worry, my OCR can't handle some of my handwriting either.
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Maybe Microsoft should try using names
Microsoft always use names for their unfinished products. Which probably explains Vista (which was previously "Longhorn"). Ubuntu never actually uses the codenames for the final releases anyway..
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Ya I know, that isn't prominent enough to turn professional/boring people off from the product because of silly names though, they'd already be hooked before they become geeky enough to find out about that ;)
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I guess they could try to be different and start with Zoosporangium Zebra and work backwards.
How is that different? Seems like Microsoft has been working backwards for quite some time now.
Re:Guessing the new name is fun... (Score:5, Interesting)
Why does everyone assume the Z will be Zebra? What about the Zorillas [wikipedia.org]?
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So what next?, Kinky Hangaroo and Lopsided Lobster?
With two exceptions (Dapper and Intrepid) they've gone for short, simple, fairly uncommon words ending in -y. They know that many people search for help on google using the keywords, as "ubuntu hardy" will return what you want while "ubuntu 8.04" will return lots of pages that happen to contain those numbers somewhere. For that reason "kinky" is entirely out of the question becaues of all the NSFW hits you'd get. So if you want an educated guess I'd go with "kozy" and "lofty" as the adjectives. The animals
Re:Guessing the new name is fun... (Score:5, Funny)
Not sure about "Intrepid $animal". As for Jaunty Jackalope?, what a name ... I was hoping for a Jucy Jezabel. Oh well, at least they are going for Intrepid Ibex. My best guess was Incontinent Iguana. So what next?, Kinky Hangaroo and Lopsided Lobster?
I think the theme should go beyond just "adjective + animal starting with the same letter". There should be a theme in the adjectives, and Kinky Kangaroo should be the basis.
Kinky Kangaroo
Lecherous Lobster
Masturbating Mongoose
Naughty Naked Mole Rat
Orgasmic Orangutan
Penetrating Porpoise
Queer Quail
Randy Rabbit
And so on. Now doesn't that kind of thematic continuity speak to quality and professionalism? People say the Ubuntu names are holding it back because they sound childish and nobody outside us geeks could recognize them. But when you say "I have Naughty Naked Mole Rat on my laptop!", people will instantly know that's the follow-on to the successful Masturbating Mongoose.
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What I want to know is (Score:4, Funny)
...what the hell are they going to do after 26 releases?
As far as I know, there's only three animals that start with "aa", and no adjectives. Unless they're going to roll over to just "a" again, which would be lame (but more practical).
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Well, Debian has been running for 15 years so it's certainly possible.
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But that's like, what, 5 releases?
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Don't confuse change with progress (Score:3, Funny)
It has been said that the cave geek who invented the wheel made it square. Then another cave geek improved it, making it triangular: one less bump per turn.
Repeat after me: not every change is for the better.
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It was a joke. I assume they'd choose different animals and adjectives, so nobody would be confused.
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Anal Ass
you mean, Difficult Donkey?
Re:What I want to know is (Score:5, Funny)
...what the hell are they going to do after 26 releases?
I lay awake in bed at night wondering the same thing, cold sweat running down my face as I count down the seconds until the release of Ubuntu 17.10. Then I consider that the world is becoming increasingly unstable and fractured and I realise that there's a good chance the human race will destroy itself in a fiery hellstorm of nuclear war long before then. With this thought comes overwhelming relief and I cry myself to sleep with tears of joy that I will never have to face the terrible reality of knowing what comes after Zesty Zebra.
Re:What I want to know is (Score:5, Funny)
Nuclear war? We're all gonna die tomorrow when we get turned to strangelets by the LHC. I've withdrawn all my savings and will be blowing the lot on hookers and cocaine tonight. That's what I do every Tuesday and I won't let the end of the world spoil my fun!
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In Ubuntu, there are more than two releases per year.
Really? Since I've been using it, there's only been 2 per year - the x.04 (April), and x.10 (October) releases. This has been the case since Hoary (4.10?), as far as I know.
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He might be talking about the updated releases for the LTS versions. 8.04.1 is out now, for example. I'm not sure if the non-LTS versions also do this.
But really, referring to these as separate releases is kind of nit-picking.
Re:What I want to know is (Score:4, Informative)
Only LTS releases will get point releases, but they're not really "releases" just refreshes of the ISOs, it's nothing meaningful as far as installed systems are concerned (I guess it's useful for setting milestone goals or something, but that's not technical). They take the updated packages, throw them on the CD so you don't have to download as many updates after you install.
Having an installed system that you updated completely the day the images were released* would leave you with the same system.
And while we're being thorough they're offset by three months, so January an August.
See http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/146 [markshuttleworth.com] for more information (including fancy pictures).
* It's likely a day or two before release, whenever the images are created, yadda yadda.
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Re:What I want to know is (Score:5, Funny)
[ucking [ruitbats
Re:What I want to know is (Score:5, Informative)
Actually, Ubuntu never had an A, B or C named release, they started alphabetical order with Dapper Drake. They've also already used W (Warty Warthog) and repeated H (Hoary Hedgehog and Hardy Heron).
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You're forgetting Breezy Badger though there was indeed no A or C named release.
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Intrepid Ibex is the "I". It's out in October.
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8.04 = Hardy Heron = April 2008
8.10 = Intrepid Ibex = October 2008
9.04 = Jaunty Jackalope = April 2009
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Re:What happened to "I"? (Score:5, Funny)
If you'd bravely soldiered on to the third sentence of the summary (don't strain yourself now, remember to take a 5 minute break in between sentences), you would have found out!
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That statement would have been so much funnier if you'd been a lady proudly declaring that you've been using your Rampant Rabbit for months now.
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Re:What about Ubuntu 10.10 (Score:4, Funny)
Give him a break, he was typing with one hand.