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The REAL Reason We Use Linux

Posted by CmdrTaco on Sat Mar 15, 2008 03:22 PM
from the slow-saturday dept.
Vlad Dolezal writes "We tell people we use Linux because it's secure. Or because it's free, because it's customizable, because it has excellent community support... But all of that is just marketing BS. We tell that to non-Linux users because they wouldn't understand the REAL reason." The answer to his question probably won't surprise you.
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  • It would be good... (Score:5, Informative)

    by Port1080 (515567) on Saturday March 15 2008, @03:23PM (#22760690) Homepage
    If the editors didn't strip away the story link [anamazingmind.com] from the article when they posted it, yes?
    • by Peeet (730301) on Saturday March 15 2008, @03:27PM (#22760720)
      Thank you for posting that. For those of us too lazy to even click on the link, the reason is "Because it is fun." Good afternoon, good evening and goodnight.
      • by bondsbw (888959) on Saturday March 15 2008, @03:46PM (#22760860)

        For those of us too lazy to even click on the link, the reason is "Because it is fun."

        It really makes sense. Don't get me wrong, having the freedom to tinker with the kernel is nice. Having the ability to see the source code to ensure safety is great. But the majority of users don't actually use Linux (or any computer OS) for those purposes... they aren't a means to an end.

        I personally use Linux third to Mac OS X (at home), which is second to Windows (at work). I like understanding the different systems, because that's how I can keep up with the extreme pace of the software development industry. But I almost never use Windows at home, and here's why: competition.

        I want Microsoft to feel the pressure of competition. They have been feeling it for the past couple of years. And what do you know, it works! Firefox has caused the IE team to push towards open standards compliance. Love or hate OOXML, it's easier to work with than older formats (due to pressure from OOo and iWork). And there are many reasons to hate Vista, but it is more secure than older versions of Windows, it has much more advanced compositing, and a host of new things that are good for the future, even if they hurt now.

        So, I care more about the future of the computing world... the future of my career, a future of openness by major corporations that enables someone little like me to start and run a business. And I'm doing my part to make sure that happens.

        • by Codifex Maximus (639) on Saturday March 15 2008, @04:18PM (#22761074) Homepage
          I agree.

          I use Linux because:
          It's powerful, stable, simple, configurable, inexpensive, open, accessible... in short, everything that Windows is not.

          The ONLY reason I still use windows at all is because the workplace wont let me use Linux on my desktop and I run some windows only games at home.

          Down with proprietary lock-in mechanisms!
  • by 7-Vodka (195504) on Saturday March 15 2008, @03:25PM (#22760702) Journal

    Here it is in all it's glory:





  • by thewiz (24994) on Saturday March 15 2008, @03:26PM (#22760712)
    Penguins?
  • by budword (680846) on Saturday March 15 2008, @03:30PM (#22760748)
    We use it because it's ours.

    David
  • by Port1080 (515567) on Saturday March 15 2008, @03:31PM (#22760756) Homepage
    ...in many circles, anyway. I have no desire to tinker. I want it to "just work". I tried using Linux multiple times from when I downloaded my first copy of Red Hat in 1999 or so, through some attempts with Mandrake and SuSe. None of them "just worked" - driver support was missing, programs didn't work as expected (or work at all), etc, etc. So I stuck with Windows. Finally, Ubuntu came about and I saw that someone was taking seriously the notion that people wanted things to "just work" (I would say that Red Hat and SuSe didn't take that notion seriously until recently - they were making OS's for business use, after all, so a trained IT tech would be setting things up and maintaining them - they didn't have to "just work" for your average user, because someone else would be taking care of most of the tough stuff). Even so, the early versions of Ubuntu weren't the best (and there are still many problems with wireless support - ndiswrapper is a poor substitute for a native driver, sad to say). The 6.x series was almost there, and finally I feel like the 7.x series is something I can actually use full time (and indeed I am - I built a new system last November and for the first time didn't bother to install Windows on it). I didn't install Ubuntu because it was fun to tinker. I installed it because it was free, easy to use, and not crippled by DRM. That's it, plain and simple.
  • by zappepcs (820751) on Saturday March 15 2008, @03:31PM (#22760760) Journal
    but I use Linux because I don't want to pay MS for anything. ever. again.

    Sure, I pay donations to those software projects that I use, but it's affordable, and upgrades are free of DRM, spyware, and other nasties that I don't want to have to pay for. For me and my family, Linux works just as good if not better than MS products. That is why we use Linux.

    Fun? The Internet is fun no matter what OS is on the machine you are using. Paying to use a program seems rather ignorant at the prices MS charges. On Linux I never get a genuine advantage check BS window. Thats fun.
  • by GreatDrok (684119) on Saturday March 15 2008, @03:31PM (#22760762) Journal
    I don't know about all this fun stuff. I use Linux because it does the job I need it to. More to the point though, when something goes wrong it is pretty simple to track it down and fix it. Heck, I have repaired systems that have become seriously mangled where with Windows you wouldn't have much choice but to start over.

    I switched to Linux from UNIX (Irix at that time) and did so because that is the environment I need for my work. These days I use OS X for much the same reason. Whatever MS does to Windows, it is still a very closed system. If closed floats your boat, fine, but don't try and say that closed gets you a more reliable and cost effective system.

    Actually, UNIX is fun I guess ;-)
  • He's right (Score:5, Interesting)

    by cerberusss (660701) <{ln.kiuknav} {ta} {todhsals}> on Saturday March 15 2008, @03:32PM (#22760774) Homepage Journal
    FTFA:

    It's fun to use the command line.
    He's totally right on this, in my opinion. I get a real kick out of using my shell (bash). I've got a bunch of options in my .bashrc that make it much easier to use for me:
    • Automatic logout when left alone for more than x minutes
    • Colored prompt, allowing me to spot the output between previous and next command fast
    • Aliases like 'printcode' that calls a2ps with all the right options
    • Fancy PROMPT_COMMAND variable that sets the xterm title just right
    • Limiting the history
    • Ignoring things like 'ls -l' in the history
    • Expanding the tab-completion possibilities
    And lots of more options, the list gets too long already :-)
  • Because it works! (Score:5, Interesting)

    by spaceyhackerlady (462530) on Saturday March 15 2008, @03:33PM (#22760776)

    I find Linux to be a congenial programming environment, where I can noodle together scripts and programs to get things done. It provides lots of sharp tools that make things easy.

    It doesn't get in the way like certain other OSs I could mention. It doesn't squander system resources on non-essentials (ditto), and I can tune it to allocate resources where they are needed. Oh, and did I mention? It just plain works!

    ...laura

  • by www.sorehands.com (142825) on Saturday March 15 2008, @03:34PM (#22760784) Homepage
    Most people can't even spell command line. While I was in China, I was fixing a friend's computer and her boyfriend said, "You must be a computer expert, you are using a dos window." He didn't even say DOS in upper case.

    You know you are a real programmer when you speak in UPPER CASE. http://www.sorehands.com/humor/real1.htm [sorehands.com]
  • by K. S. Kyosuke (729550) on Saturday March 15 2008, @03:34PM (#22760786)
    Girls keep telling Linux users that they (Linux users) are nice, caring and entertaining, but that they (girls) have no free time at the moment. But all of that is just a marketing BS told to Linux users because they wouldn't understand the REAL reason for girls using non-Linux users.
        • by Ethanol-fueled (1125189) * on Saturday March 15 2008, @04:32PM (#22761180) Homepage
          I accepted your challenge and went down the the local Starbuck's twice today: One with my Linux laptop(with a penguin sticker on it), and once with my Mac laptop. When I was there with my Linux laptop, I was hit on by all kinds of women saying, " aww, how cute, it's got a penguin on it. Then I fired up compiz and received plenty of ooohs and ahhhhs from the crowd. I returned a couple hours later with my Mac laptop and I was hit on...by scores of well-dressed, effeminate men. Being a heterosexual male, I promptly sold my Mac laptop and stuck with the angular, responsive laptop with a sense of humor.

          In yo face!
  • by IBBoard (1128019) on Saturday March 15 2008, @03:37PM (#22760808) Homepage

    Ever tried stopping a process in Windows and the OS wouldn't let you?

    Yes, and I've also had Linux do the same thing. It didn't give an error, but no matter how many times I "kill -9"ed it the process never paid attention to the command and carried on churning away. I guess that's the process rather than the OS, but it's still not always "all-powerful root".

    I think a more accurate list (from my view at least) is:

    1. Linux gives you complete control
    2. Linux is free (as-in-speech)
    3. Software install is easy
    4. It has less potential problems with web dev for a Linux server
    5. No DRM! You own the hardware, you own the software, you own the data.

    Oh, and the penguin is more cuddly than some flag or some annoying animated critter ;)
  • by rubenerd (998797) on Saturday March 15 2008, @03:47PM (#22760864) Homepage

    Granted I'm a FreeBSD guy [insert comment about why BSD is dying here] but I think the arguments are basically the same as for Linux. I agree with most of TFA, but I enjoy using FreeBSD and other Free software for another important reason: the people.

    Despite the fact commercial products can cost hundreds or thousands of dollars, their technical support services nearly always suck: they're slow, obscure, vague, answered by people who don't know what they're talking about or are reading off a sheet of paper that assumes everyone they reply to is an idiot, or at the very worst you don't get an answer at all. Just speaking from my own experience.

    Now granted there are plenty of jackarses on forums for Free software and the like, but on the whole I can post a question and generally get a useful response and in a fraction of the time. Plus if it's for a particular piece of ported software, generally I can either contact the port maintainer or the creator of the software directly and get helpful answers. I've NEVER got that from commercial software vendors. That's what makes the difference.

  • Why I use linux: (Score:5, Insightful)

    by grasshoppa (657393) <skennedyNO@SPAMtpno-co.org> on Saturday March 15 2008, @03:57PM (#22760916) Homepage
    I use linux because, in certain instances, it's the right tool for the job. I'm busy. I don't have time to play around tinkering anymore ( and yes, I do have grey hair, thank you very much ). So when I want something that'll "just work", I analyse all the tools at my disposal, and choose one based on merits.

    Quite often that's linux. Sometimes that's windows. But regardless of the choice, the end result is hopefully the same: A system that just works without me needing to constantly hold it's hand.
  • by syousef (465911) on Saturday March 15 2008, @03:59PM (#22760932) Journal
    Boss: Why should we switch to Linux?
    Me: Because it's fun!
    Boss: Thanks for your input. You can go now.
    Boss (to the secretary): Please get me HR on the line. I think we're over-paying some staff.

    This is possibly the lamest story I've ever seen on slashdot. The article then lists THREE other reasons - plural with an 's' - (not one) why the author uses Linux. By 'we' I think he's referring to himself, his blow up sex doll and his imaginary friends.
  • by websitebroke (996163) on Saturday March 15 2008, @03:59PM (#22760942)
    One of my favorite things about Free software in general is that the programmers and the people who write the documentation don't feel like they have to keep this "professional" face on their work.

    For example, you'll never find George W. Bush's face for the "unsharp filter" icon (Cinelerra) in a closed source program. That would indicate that the programmers were having fun, and that obviously makes the program of lower quality.

    Personally, I think that if the developers are having fun, and are in a positive frame of mind, they'll make better software.
  • Reason #2 (Score:5, Interesting)

    by PPH (736903) on Saturday March 15 2008, @04:00PM (#22760950)

    I can relate to this. Linux not being widely used.

    Some years ago, I was in engineering and involved in 'fixing' a system built by our IT department. They had sunk about $300 million into a system that was just barely functional. We (engineering and manufacturing) were supposed to supply them with appropriate requirements so IT could start over (yet again) building another piece of crap.

    We convinced our management that we should hammer out requirements by building a functioning prototype. As our IT department maintained a stranglehold over all things Windows, we chose to build on Linux and a few surplus Sun desktops with Perl, Apache and a few COTS packages. Keeping the IT dept. and Windows out of the picture allowed us to get a working demo of the shop floor interface up and running within a few weeks and half a dozen people completed the 'prototype' in about 6 months.

    When our system was up and running, it actually outperformed the one running on the Windows backend. When management saw it, they just gave the order to pull the plug on the legacy Windows system and place ours into production.

    Part of my job after the project completion (about 10% of my time) was to administrate 6 hosts that made up the new system. When our IT department made a pitch to management to take over administration, they quoted an recurring maintenance cost for their proposal of $50,000 per host per month. Management fell off their chairs laughing and I suggested that they pay me 6 * $50,000 per month.