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Wal-Mart's $200 Linux PC Sells Out

Posted by kdawson on Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:55 PM
from the ok-there's-a-market-for-it dept.
hankmt writes "About a week ago Wal-Mart began selling a $200 Linux machine running on a 1.5 ghz VIA C7 processor and 512 MB of RAM. While the specs are useless for Vista, it works blazingly fast on Ubuntu with the Enlightenment Window Manager. The machine is now officially sold out of their online warehouses (it may still be available in some stores). And the product sales page at wal-mart.com is full of glowing reviews from new and old Linux users alike."

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  • What's that in bogomips (Score:5, Funny)

    by Ungrounded Lightning (62228) on Monday November 12, @10:57PM (#21331615) Journal
    How many bogomips are we talking here...
  • It's been like this (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Eddi3 (1046882) on Monday November 12, @10:58PM (#21331621) Homepage Journal
    It sold out much faster then this; It's been out of stock for at least 2 days.
  • Useful user reviews - oh wait (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 12, @11:00PM (#21331647)
    Not quite what you'd think!, 10/31/2007
    By NWAshopper, AR Read all reviews by this reviewer

    Value for price paid: 1 out of 5
    Meets Expectations: 1 out of 5

    Buyers beware! Don't let the low cost of this computer sway your credit card. This computer doesn't have the power to run Windows XP!!! This is a decent buy for the tech smart who are looking for ITX Hardware on the cheap. DO NOT BUY. You will be very dissapointed!

    Overall Rating: 4 out of 5

    Great Value for Money, 11/06/2007
    By CompuShopr Read all reviews by this reviewer

    Value for price paid: 5 out of 5
    Meets Expectations: 5 out of 5

    This is a Linux machine that's capable of XP or Vista. It runs quick, and upgrades easily. Major con is no monitor. Tried XP and Vista and it runs like a champ. Definitely recommend this product.
  • Walmart + Linux = ... (Score:5, Funny)

    by patio11 (857072) on Monday November 12, @11:01PM (#21331667)
    ... the Slashdot equivalent of strapping buttered toast to the back of a kitten and pushing it off a table. You could power a perpetual motion machine with the flames generated by this combo...
  • Wal*Mart = Bad
    Linux = Good

    *whimper*
  • Desktop Linux growth in 2007 (Score:5, Insightful)

    by compumike (454538) on Monday November 12, @11:10PM (#21331745) Homepage
    In the community around me, I've seen a lot of growth in the use of Linux on the desktop just in the last year. But probably the most interesting trend is that I've seen a bunch of new Ubuntu users among the mechanical engineering students, who in general aren't particularly computer-nerdy, and even more amazingly, are actually dependent on Windows-only software for some of their CAD tools (i.e. Solidworks).

    I think the Walmart results might be indicative of a growing trend where people are just about ready to make the leap themselves... particularly when it comes preinstalled like it does here. Another step in the right direction.

    What I'd love to see, though, is how much previous computer experience all of those Walmart reviewers had -- for some, it seems like quite a bit.

    --
    Electronics kits for the digital generation. [nerdkits.com]
  • But, (Score:5, Funny)

    by bedwards09 (1024881) on Monday November 12, @11:10PM (#21331747)
    Does it run Windows?
  • Must resist.... (Score:5, Funny)

    by Itninja (937614) on Monday November 12, @11:13PM (#21331785) Homepage
    ...urge to support the Wal Mart beast. But Linux is good right? But wait...Wal Mart is not good. Unless, they throw me a open-source bone. Then they're good right? Damn, I hate moral dilemmas. Why can't everything Wal Mart sells, just be something I either do not want or do not need? It's almost as if they are pandering to....hey look! They have for $1.99/dozen!
  • I don't trust the reviews (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Ash-Fox (726320) on Monday November 12, @11:13PM (#21331787) Homepage
    There is something very wrong with the reviewers, I keep clicking "Read all reviews by this reviewer", and the reviewer only did this single review on a product. Which is unusual for people who write their reviews on products (usually they'll have a few others they've written reviews for). They all write excellent English, no grammar mistakes, punctuation mistakes or anything.

    I suspect manipulation of reviews.

    • Re:I don't trust the reviews (Score:5, Insightful)

      by brue68 (1159419) <brue68.gmail@com> on Monday November 12, @11:23PM (#21331907)
      Or they could have gone to Wal*Mart exclusively for this item. The Ubuntu forums have exploded over this, and there are several people who have bought the product for friends or family. The torrent for gOS had quite a few seeders when I downloaded it (didn't like it). Took less than 45 minutes, more like 30.
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  • I am very happy to hear this news and pointed a number of people at this machine. But it would be a lot more meaningful if we knew how many they sold out of. 10? Big whoop. 10,000? More impressive.
  • by localman (111171) on Monday November 12, @11:59PM (#21332217) Homepage
    Amazing what a decade of hardware progress can do :)
  • Wal-Mart has been experimenting with Linux PCs for a long, long time. Here are just a few examples:

    2002 Walmart sells Lindows PCs:

    http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/general-10/wal-mart-ships-linux-pcs-23619/ [linuxquestions.org]

    2003 Microtel computers with SUSE Linux:

    http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,111557-page,1/article.html [pcworld.com]

    2004 Linspire computers on sale at Wal-Mart for $498.00

    http://www.news.com/Wal-Mart-debuts-498-Linux-laptop/2100-1044_3-5498006.html [news.com]

    May of 2007, Dell computers on sale at Wal-Mart:

    http://www.networkworld.com/community/?q=node/15701 [networkworld.com]

    Wal-Mart is not stupid. They know that as the price of PCs falls, their sales volume rises. They have a vested interested in commoditizing PCs. With Microsoft, Wal-Mart gets a limited mark-up. With Linux PCs made by small vendors, Wal-Mart gets to call the shots. Wal-Mart has dollars signs in their eyes, and those dollars signs are dancing with Tux.
  • Ha! (Score:5, Funny)

    by Comatose51 (687974) on Tuesday November 13, @01:41AM (#21332877) Homepage
    I knew it! I knew Linux is going to sell out some day! I told you Linux is just as evil M$FT! Sold out to Walmart of all people.

    *RTFA*

    Oh. Good job, carry on.
    • by khasim (1285) <brandioch.conner@gmail.com> on Monday November 12, @11:06PM (#21331705)
      It seems the people buying it know that it isn't Windows or they're buying it for friends/family and they'll be providing the support.

      And for home users it's all about knowing someone who can fix it when it breaks. With Windows there's usually some neighbor's kid who "knows computers".

      So don't expect too many returns on this.
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    • by schnikies79 (788746) on Monday November 12, @11:51PM (#21332143)
      I don't believe a lot of buyers were typical wal-mart customers. These PC's have been blasted all over every tech site for the last several days and each site has been covered in comments about people who want to get one. There are comments on this slashdot article by people who have bought them.

      I think a load of these were bought by linux fans wanting to support linux on a retail box. for a low price.
      [ Parent ]
        • Re:lol dollars (Score:5, Insightful)

          by UncleTogie (1004853) * on Tuesday November 13, @12:49AM (#21332545) Homepage Journal

          BTW, I've yet to meet someone who hates Microsoft Office (the "junk" as you call it, lol), as per your assertion.

          Agreed. "Hate" might be too strong a word.

          However, tell a small business client that they've got to buy a separate license for EACH station for MS-Office. While you might not get "hate", you're sure not going to get any "sweet sweet lovin' ", either. Typically, they next ask for workarounds to install one copy on multiple machines.

          Personally, that's my big gripe with Office and Vista. MS marketing aside, I can't see the value in paying $400 for a software package that does what its parent company wants. Heck, I have installed an OS that didn't cost a dime and uses an office suite of the same cost... and it does what *I* want.

          ....and I donate to support those. THAT is value.

          [ Parent ]
      • by penix1 (722987) on Tuesday November 13, @01:33AM (#21332829) Homepage
        Or on the other hand, if you had no knowledge of computers and walked into a store only to see a machine for $200 and right next to it the same machine for $500-$700 which would you buy? OS choice really isn't as important as some on /. would make it out to be to the average Joe. All they are looking for is will it do what they want it to do for the cheapest price. Here is where Linux can fall flat on its face if someone doesn't make retail versions of software as available and ubiquitous as Windows software. Put a boxed set of Open Office next to that Microsoft Office suite and then we can talk. You see, there is the problem with this thing. Everything you need is included with the distro making this kind of visibility moot. The problem is that the same time Joe Average is picking out that computer they are also looking at the software shelf loaded with Microsoft centric crap. The moment they pick up that shareware disk for $5.00 and ask, "will this work on that box I'm buying?" will be the kiss of death on that sale. Add in the fact that sales people at WalMart aren't the pick of the crop and mess up even Windows technical issues and it is a recipe for a PR disaster.

        Assuming that at least some of those sales of this box was to Joe Average, this can be a boon or bust moment all dependant on the support they get from WalMart. If WalMart washes their hands after sale (i.e. "All sales are final. Take it up with the manufacturer or Ubuntu") then this could be doomed after all the geeks have gotten theirs.

        Personally, I wish WalMart success on this venture. There is nothing more healthy to a monopoly than competition.
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    • by xebra (140155) on Tuesday November 13, @12:08AM (#21332275)
      Wow, are you ever an elitist prick. I guarantee you almost everyone on Slashdot shops at Wal-Mart, because almost everyone on Slashdot is "plain" and normal in almost every respect. If the PC is sold out, 85% of it is because of dorks like you and me. The other 15% is people that didn't know what they were buying.
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    • Cheap/Slow PCs are more than capable (Score:5, Insightful)

      by JoeCommodore (567479) <larry@portcommodore.com> on Tuesday November 13, @01:36AM (#21332843) Homepage

      I hope these machines are good. I used to buy the $200 Fry's Great Quality machines, but Fry's is no longer selling those

      Me too. Well the architecture is pretty similar (cyrix CPU) but it looks like the software is a factor better, many of those GQ machines didn't have adequate drivers to support the on-board video so you were stuck at 640x480 or whatever. Though installing Mandrake (back then) usually took care of that.

      The thing that really burns me is all the "Good for Light Word Processing"crap these power-system zealots keep spewing - and I ma not discriminating here, all of the platforms, Windows, Mac and Linux are full of em. I can tell you that machine (512MB RAM/80GB HDD) is probably capable of some great DTP (Scribus) could be great for illustration (Inkscape) and really serious office work (OOo). It may not be fast at doing such things, but we should never say it is not capable.

      As a Classic computerist I know of authors who write books and other published works still on Commodore 64s, (heck some have never left their typewriter behind). To them they get familiar with something and stick to it they don't upgrade because they are to busy being productive with what they have (the hard part is finding replacement parts for their daisy wheel printers). Same reason why the XO will be a hit with kids, they will not see those laptops as underpowered or slow, but the draw is they have access and the speed isn't really a factor when you are starting out (as they get better and outgrow it, then that's another matter; it took me years to outgrow the VIC-20).

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