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Questioning the Linux Foundation's Credentials
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on Tue Feb 13, 2007 08:51 PM
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nadamsieee writes "Neil McAllister has posted a provocative article titled Questioning the Linux Foundation's credentials. He questions the motivations behind the newly formed organization. Quoting: 'But wouldn't it make more sense to call the merged organization the Open Source and Standards Lab, or the Free Software and Standards Group? Why did they have to go and call it the Linux Foundation?' McAllister then goes on to explain why he believes that 'the Linux Foundation isn't any kind of philanthropic foundation at all[,] it's an industry trade organization.'"
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because (Score:5, Funny)
(http://www.gmail.com/)
Because if they called it the BSD Foundation, all you'd ever hear is about how it's dying.
well technically.... (Score:1)
Wrong way round! (Score:5, Informative)
(http://whineymacfanboy.googlepages.com/ | Last Journal: Thursday April 12 2007, @09:28AM)
It's natural for the union between them to be called "the linux something".
Sure it is. (Score:5, Insightful)
(Last Journal: Thursday October 02 2003, @03:46PM)
So, what's the issue?
Re:Sure it is. (Score:4, Insightful)
You talk about it in the same breath as the BSA and RIAA, and then still wonder what the issue is?!
The issue is that an "industry trade organization" is interested in profit, and might be motivated to corrupt the ideals behind Linux (and Free Software in general). That might be well-and-good from their perspective, but it wouldn't be good from the community's perspective. Therefore, people in the community could have cause to be worried about it.
It could fool the European Commission (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://ciaran.compsoc.com/ | Last Journal: Wednesday August 09 2006, @03:53PM)
When the European Commission want to consult the industry about something, they usually try to find a diverse cross sample. So they'll talk to BSA, some union, some Linux representative, etc. One possible choice for the "Linux representative" would be FSFE. FSFE would say "software patents are incompatible with the goals of the community we support". Another choice for the "Linux representative" now will be Linux Foundation (which is IBM and friends by a new name), and they'll say "software patents are grand, there are a few glitches that let unenforceable patents through, but we'll harness the community to fix these problems for us and everything will be fine". So the European Commission will publish a dreadful recommendation and will say "we even consulted the Linux free software crowd".
Not news ... (Score:2, Insightful)
(http://trolltalk.com/ | Last Journal: Saturday November 03, @08:45PM)
"McAllister then goes on to explain why he believes that 'the Linux Foundation isn't any kind of philanthropic foundation at all"
Big deal. It never claimed to be any kind of "philanthropic foundation." What next - "Microsoft Windows isn't free software" or "The **AA doesn't promote file sharing"? Or "Bush doesn't eat kittens for breakfast"?
So, how again is this news?
Re:Not news ... (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://www.garbett.org/)
Looming... (Score:2)
Oh no! A Trade Organization! (Score:3, Funny)
So what? (Score:1)
(http://students.dsu.edu/jjbatteen/)
why they called it "Foundation" (Score:2)
(Last Journal: Thursday February 21 2002, @02:55AM)
A donation in your name... (Score:1)
Why do I suspect this guy is (Score:2)
Who cares?
Call the organization the Lizardian Group for all I care.
What's in a name? (Score:2)
(http://www.freelabs.com/~whitis/)
instead of the "something linux something foundation" creates a lot of expectations that are not likely
to be met.
When someone casually encounters the name, what expectations might they reasonably have:
- That the organization is the producer of linux. The Apache Software Foundation produces
apache, for example.
- That the organization speaks for the linux community. A pay-to-play board composed of
representatives of various huge corporations can not credibly do that.
- That it owns the trademark "Linux"
- That it is they trustee of Linux intellectual property.
- That Linus Torvalds is at least a board member. There is some very ambiguous language which
suggests they may sponsor him.
- that the board includes representatives of the major distributions.
- that it speaks for or at least balances the interest the linux creators, linux users, linux
distributions, and the other open source
software that is included in linux distributions, to the extent that that is possible.
- that it promotes linux
- that it contributes to linux.
By choosing the name "Linux Foundation", they imply a far more intimate association with the linux
community than appears to actually exist. Of the reasonable expectations listed, only the last
two seem to apply.
Yeah, seats on the board is a good way to raise capitol. But this appears to be a "Computer Industry Consortium for the Advancement of Linux". Which could be a good thing, if that was what it was called.
Even "Foundation for Linux" would be a better name.
Someone pointed out that patents could be an issue where a corporate board could diverge significantly from the community at large.
The Free Software Foundation is another deceptively named organization. It absolutely does not represent
the free software community. Instead it represents the viral license fanatics who produce software that is less free than the permissive license and public domain communities and advocate that developers use the less free viral licenses for their software.
They should've calledit... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Phht (Score:3, Insightful)
(http://datafrog.org/)
That's the British English spelling used by most (if not, all) countries in the British Commonwealth - in this case, the article is from New Zealand so spelling is correct.
We generally use -ise instead of -ize [wikipedia.org].
Re:Phht (Score:1)
Re:Phht (Score:5, Informative)
(http://www.daemonology.net/)
No, they got this one right. "Organisation" is a British corruption which never caught on in America -- you'll also find the correct spelling ("organization") used in Oxford and other fora which use Oxford spelling (e.g., Nature, WHO, UNESCO, ISO, ITU).
Should be organisaatio (Score:2)
Re:GNU/Linux (Score:1)
(Last Journal: Saturday February 19 2005, @08:28AM)
-uso.
Re:Phht (Score:2)
Re:When you think about it, the newly formed Linux (Score:2)
(http://inglorion.net/ | Last Journal: Thursday October 06 2005, @07:17AM)
I disagree. The name you give to something is important. If you call it "The Linux $foo" and it's not about Linux, it's a bad name. The badness varies from suboptimal (they could have done better, but the name isn't outright wrong) to deceptive (they chose the name to boost visibility or misrepresent their cause). I don't know, or really care, to what extent this applies to the Linux Foundation, but naming is important.
Re:Phht (Score:1)