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Mandriva 2007 Released
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on Tue Oct 03, 2006 03:23 PM
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moyoto writes, "Mandriva has announced today the immediate availability of Mandriva Linux 2007. This new version includes the latest Gnome 2.16 and KDE 3.5.4, as well as a 3D desktop with both AIGLX and Xgl technologies. You can download Mandriva 2007 in one of the several free versions available with bittorrent, or buy one of the commercial packs. You can easily test the new 3D Desktop with one of the 16 Live/Install CDs, Gnome- or KDE-based, available in more than 70 different languages." The distro features a new theme named Ia Ora ("hello" in French Polynesian).
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boklm writes "The first Mandriva 2007 release candidate (codename Mona) is out. The final version is due soon.
2007's new features include Gnome 2.16 with New 'Ia Ora' Mandriva Theme, parallel initscript (for faster boot), 3D desktop (with both AIGLX and Xgl to support more graphic cards). Installable Live-CDs including Gnome or KDE are available in different languages, and because it is a live-cd it is possible to try it without installing. Don't forget to report bugs if you find them, in order to get a solid final release."
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Bloated (Score:5, Funny)
With Mandriva it's probably easier to list what it doesn't include.
Re:Bloated (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:Bloated (Score:4, Insightful)
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Ubuntu has the right idea on this. The install media is a single CD that contains a usable desktop. Everything else can then be installed over apt (though they really need to make a n00b-friendly alternative to Synaptic). If you want a specific desktop, download the correct CD for it. Ie, Gnome (Ubuntu), KDE (Kubuntu), or XFCE (Xubuntu).
Re:Bloated (Score:4, Informative)
Yes... and it seems they've thought of this. There's a single-CD download, which installs a minimal system and then lets you get the rest over the network. I'll be getting this one, I think: I don't care to clutter up my room with unnecessary coasters!
http://qa.mandriva.com/torrent/2007/mandriva-fre e-2007-mini.torrent
Soon as the ADSL contention clears tonight at about half-elevenish, I'll totally nab that.
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Re:Bloated (Score:4, Interesting)
Not everything in the past has worked right (There's a reason I'm using FC5 or Ubuntu
right at the moment for my main systems...)- their SQA has left quite a bit to be
desired in the past. To be sure, 2006-1 was probably one of their best iterations;
but like before in the past, things like PCMCIA not working 100% of the time on 100%
of the platforms just mar the whole experience. Oh, I'll continue to be a member and
install on part of my platforms, but that's because I'm needing it for testing purposes.
Unless it really shows up nice and stable, it's not going on everything.
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Re:Bloated (Score:5, Insightful)
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"Our OS will run on every single supported platform. All 5 of them!"
Laugh it up (Score:4, Interesting)
Back before I just threw in the towel and started drilling holes in my walls, I would have killed a man for a "Linux 802.11 Card." When you want a wireless card for your Mac, you go into a store, and you buy it. Note that I said "it," not "one." Because there's only one. (Okay, at some points there have been multiple, i.e. Airport vs. Airport Extreme, but most computers could only take one or the other.) Yeah, it costs more, but there's no messing around with anything.
I've wondered if maybe some Linux User's Group wanted to do this as a fund-raiser: do a bulk-purchase of some Linux-compatible peripheral (say a WL card or TV tuner) in OEM packaging, and then wrap it up with the appropriate drivers and sell it over the web at a 50-60% markup. I think you'd move product -- too often do you get recommendations for a product that works well, only to find that it's been discontinued or only sold in some other country, or it's nearly impossible to tell which products use it. (This was my experience finding Prism-based WL cards.)
Laugh all you want, but "choice" isn't always good, particularly when it means just having a high signal/noise ratio. Having one and only one hardware configuration available is better than having a thousand hardware configurations available, if only one or two of them works perfectly. In the first case, you have a 100% chance of getting the 'good' config, in the latter, you might as well buy Lotto tickets.
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But at least... (Score:3, Funny)
If only it were "Hello Kitty" I dould download it at once for my niece.
Pfffttt... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Pfffttt... (Score:4, Funny)
EX:
"OOOoh.... It looks like he's caused a segmentation fault. That's gotta hurt."
"Wow. Now, that there's just some good old fashioned permissions problems. He's gonna need to log as root and run some chmod and chown commands."
"You know, right there's where you really have the option of some good coding. The rehashing of that string with the library function would make your code quite a bit more efficient. Just like in the old days."
And everyone's favorite,
"Boy, that's a good little piece of code, but you could really use a run back to the manual on that one."
I'd love to see the whiteboard-enabled screen on my code sometimes, and have someone who knew what they were doing scribble out what was wrong with it, but maybe that's just me.
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Distibution Errors: #1 (Score:4, Informative)
Today is the day of desktop linux! (Score:5, Informative)
Mandriva/Ubuntu. (Score:5, Interesting)
One thing that annoys me though is the high price for the retail version. A silver membership will be more expensive than Vista in just 2-3 years. I think.
I might have to re-evaluate running KUbuntu on my laptop. I do however remember that there was something that annoyed me so much about the packages in Mandriva that I just had to switch. I think it was the fact that new packages came to the distribution at such a slow pace.
Re:Mandriva/Ubuntu. (Score:4, Insightful)
Just one question: what do you think how many new releases Mandriva will live to see during those years ? And Windows ? I'm not saying it's cheap, I'm saying your comparison is flawed.
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I prefer SUSE, Fedora or Ubuntu (Score:3, Interesting)
This will probably get modded down as flamebait, but honestly I prefer SUSE over Mandriva (Mandrake). I have tried Mandrake many times over the past few years, and even joined their "Mandrake Club" a few years back when they were on the brink of Bankruptcy to help them out; however, I have always felt that their Distro was never QA'ed as well as SUSE or Redhat for that matter. When you fire up the latest SUSE, you tell you have a professionally QA'ed product, as everything works out of the box. With Mandriva on the other hand, everything looks great on paper. They always have some of the latest packages, and include alot of the new technology; however, there are always a few things that dont work well with my system after I install it. In fact, on more than one occasion, I've even had trouble installing a new release of Mandriva.
Now I have nothing against Mandriva, and I like urmpi, but I think I may pass on this release, or try it out on a Virtual machine first before getting rid of my SUSE and Fedora boxes.... Now there's a thought..
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No distro comes close to Mandriva for ease of use. (Score:4, Interesting)
Sure some of the other distros are just starting to catch up now, they usually have a hodge-podge of utilties that work similar to the Mandriva ones, but few have a consistent interface and you usually need to know what they are called before you know what to click on, they aren't all located in one easy to find place. If you want a distro your mom can install and use, this is about as close as it comes currently.
Here is the list of just some of the custom utilties Mandriva (Mandrake) offers for configuring your system:
lsnetdrake,menudrake,drakbug,mandrakegalaxy.real,
Re:No distro comes close to Mandriva for ease of u (Score:5, Insightful)
Plus, there is the **other** configuration utility included in Mandriva that everybody forgets:
vi
Yes, you can use vi to configure your Mandriva and be happy.
That's why I like Mandriva, choice:
If I'm lazy or I want to show off, I use the Mandriva Control Center.
If I want to configure something fast, screen + vi
I wonder if those who call Mandriva a n00b distro have ever try it to use Mandriva as a serious distro. I do.
Peace!
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When it works. (Score:3, Interesting)
Web site slow . . .download links below (Score:4, Informative)
i586
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http://qa.mandriva.com/torrent/2007/mandriva-free
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http://qa.mandriva.com/torrent/2007/mandriva-free
dual architecture DVD
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http://qa.mandriva.com/torrent/2007/mandriva-free
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Re:Ubuntu has already won (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:Ubuntu has already won (Score:5, Insightful)
No.
I just can't think of a reason to use anything *but* Ubuntu on the desktop.
The Linux way might well be summed up as "To Each His Own."
KFG
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