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Previewing Dapper And Edgy
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on Fri Apr 21, 2006 05:31 PM
from the feel-the-excitement dept.
from the feel-the-excitement dept.
Frank Clarkson writes to mention a ZDNet article about the upcoming release of 'Dapper Drake', Ubuntu Linux. They also give a mini-preview of Eft. From the article: "'I'm promising to impose (almost ;-) ) zero from-the-top requirements for Edgy, this release is entirely up the to development team to envision and implement,' he wrote. 'Almost everything that lands in Edgy will be driven from the development team, who get to play with whatever new technologies they fancy along the way. So that should give us a nice big bump in infrastructure and bling.'"
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New most popular distro (Score:5, Funny)
(http://nizo.deviantart.com/gallery/ | Last Journal: Thursday November 08, @09:27AM)
So then can we assume this will be the long desired porn-centric distro we have all been waiting for?
multiarch future? (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://scragz.com/)
". .
I sure hope this happens; then I can finally switch back to 64-bit mode. I know about the chroot and all that fanciness but it's too much of a hassle.
Re:multiarch future? (Score:4, Informative)
(http://www.fallingcow.com/)
This removes much of the incentive for using 64 bit on the desktop, as the biggest speedup will be seen in multimedia apps.
It's still better than nothing, of course.
Re:multiarch future? (Score:4, Insightful)
(http://www.slashdot.org/)
I want a desktop and games, not hours of compiling stuff, damnit
so why exactly did you touch gentoo ?
you need 64 bits so badly that you can't live without it ? i run my turion laptop happily in 32bit mode for now (currently with ubuntu), since the `rest` of the world hasnt really gained up on the bitcout yet.
runnning in 64-bit mode doesn't make your machine really stellar or ultrafast, one of the biggest differences that you can make for now, is to get a 32-bit linux and get packages compiled for your machine. (gentoo 32-bit would do aswell)
i ran some purely experimental tests here, comparing the speed of math in code compiled for i386 (ubuntu style) versus code compiled for k8 (a 'la gentoo) , now the difference in speed was enormous. if you multiply the math speed differences with the delay/lag/latency that is created while you are using the desktop interface (x-server with it's pipes and sockets, font servers, etc.), you'll get a pretty big bang.
ps. for the furious supporters of i386 compilings, ofcourse compiling every app for k8 isn't necessary, but it's time we get some other stuff than libc to i686 at least. why use ~60-70% of the cpu power that we have ? (holding back at least 80% of users from utilizing their cpu in favour of the remaining
dapper and edgy (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://www.xboxtopic.com/)
Re:dapper and edgy (Score:5, Insightful)
Sure, some things are just eye-candy, for example the way movies can play on the corners of the cube. But by and large, XGL is _useful_ and _not_ eyecandy.
Re:dapper and edgy (Score:4, Informative)
(http://www.myspace.com/faintingoats)
For those who don't know what I'm talking about check this [slinckx.net] out.
Finally, some innovation on the Linux desktop, instead of "Me too!" apps.
A Great Year for the Linux Desktop (Score:5, Insightful)
(Last Journal: Tuesday November 06, @11:44PM)
Re:A Great Year for the Linux Desktop (Score:4, Funny)
(http://international-waters.blogspot.com/)
Because not a day goes by, that I too look for new ways to be productive at work...
The good the bad and the ugly (Score:3, Interesting)
I'm going to hold out for... (Score:4, Funny)
Dapper this! (Score:3, Funny)
(http://www.dappergeek.com/)
Maybe gnucash-2.0 will make Edgy. (Score:4, Interesting)
(http://grendel.dyndns.org/)
buggy (Score:2)
Just remember that I called it first! (Score:2)
(http://tom.digitalelite.com/)
I could happen. My second prediction has already come true (but that kinda sucks, really).
Tom Caudron
http://tom.digitalelite.com/linux.html [digitalelite.com]
Ubuntu's Stallman Hinderance (Score:2, Insightful)
a release with Xgl, I have to wonder just how they plan
on doing this and still keep to Stallman's principal of
no non-gpl software installed by default.
How many computers will be able to run Xgl right out of the
box without the need to manually install the nVidia or
ATI drivers to get the necessary hardware acceleration?
Is it me? (Score:2)
(http://www.geocities.com/opkool/)
Yes, Ubuntu is great, Mark and Canonical are providing a ton of cash to Debian development and all that.
But I'm starting to get a little tired of a new Slashdot entry everytime there is a new commit to Ubuntu's CVS.
This is getting as old as "Such and Such Company, inc" is using Linux in an enterprise environment!
In the begining, it was exciting to hear of another company using Linux; it was new and got me all happy and feeling good.
Same thing with Ubuntu news. In the begining, I loved the fact that a company was investing in Debian. Now, well, I just get bored with the twice-a-day Ubuntu news.
Peace
Cutting (Score:4, Interesting)
(http://slashdot.org/~Doc%20Ruby/journal | Last Journal: Thursday March 31 2005, @01:48PM)
How about an experiment where the users determine the features of the leading desktop Linux distro?
Re:Open Sources (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Open Sources (Score:5, Funny)
What's that? 1337 for "teet"?
Is that how you pronounce "tit"? Or is it just a Freudian slip?
Re:Open Sources (Score:2)
(http://slashdot.org/~nurb432/ | Last Journal: Friday August 27 2004, @03:24PM)
Re:VIA C3 Bug (Score:3, Informative)
(Last Journal: Thursday December 05 2002, @05:02AM)
AFAIK, the Ubuntu guys follow the same philosophy as the Debian project in that they don't optimize binaries for specific processors, except for the kernel. If you were to try a kernel built for i386, i486 or Pentium on that C3 box, it might well work.
(If you roll your own kernels, there's an option to build a kernel specially for the C3. That's what I do on my own C3 box (running Debian)).
-Stephen
Re:VIA C3 Bug (Score:1)
Comment Deja Vu (Score:5, Insightful)
(Last Journal: Thursday April 06 2006, @05:03PM)
In which case, I'd like to use the +5 response as my own:
Thanks!
Can you imagine... (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://inoshiro.com/)
And this software would work well, have free online updates and upgrades, and make it so that you could even show your friends who aren't technically inclined how to use it and gain its benefits? How it enables people like me who work on software to easily contribute to improving the lives of thousands of computer users around the world?
Yea, it's a damn shame that developers are doing marketters' jobs here. Let's all live in a world where the marketters do the developers' jobs by setting out the game-plan on features and design [microsoft.com].
Have you ever heard of "thank you"? (Score:5, Insightful)
Listen, johnny-come-lately, the market is already saturated with market driven drivel. Go eat it up. The world doesn't need any more of it. There's plenty already. FOSS is different, and that's a good thing. If you don't like it, go away. Believe it or not, some people really don't care about world domination, huge piles of cash, popularity contests, or cute ponies.
I'm using Dapper Drake right now on a machine that is also running the very latest Windows, w/
Why don't you try saying "thank you" sometime.
Re:Nerdy Nutcases (Score:1)
Re:VIA C3 Bug (Score:2, Insightful)
(Last Journal: Wednesday October 24, @03:50AM)
This is part of a standard FUD tactic you'll get with any discussion of Linux. Somebody'll always post an anecdote about an esoteric piece of hardware they're unable to get to work, normally with the one specific distro of Linux that doesn't support it. It is a deliberate tactic to make it look like Linux has poor hardware support.
The best approach would be to let the mods do their work and it'd be -1 Troll in no time. Sadly, there are enough winshills with mod points to abuse that it'll be more likely to hit +5 Informative.
Re:Nerdy Nutcases (Score:1)
Re:Nerdy Nutcases (Score:2)
(http://pietersz.co.uk/ | Last Journal: Wednesday May 04 2005, @05:22AM)
Re:VIA C3 Bug (Score:2, Funny)
Who's asking- The Department of Redundancy Department?
Re:Nerdy Nutcases (Score:2)
I think the only people who really pay any attention to these names are the ones who are already running some form of Linux.
Most other people who don't run Linux probably only are aware of RedHat and Suse, because those are usually the only two names you see supported by apps such as Oracle.
Re:Nerdy Nutcases (Score:2)
(http://del.icio.us/jvz | Last Journal: Sunday December 03 2006, @12:45PM)