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Planning Dapper +1, The Edgy Eft 320

Posted by ScuttleMonkey from the score-one-for-creative-names dept.
Christian Jensen writes "On the ubuntu-announce mailing list, Mark Shuttleworth announced the plans for the next Ubuntu release - 'The Edgy Eft', the successor to Dapper Drake." This release is being touted as both cutting edge (edgy) and containing several comparatively "young" software additions ('Eft' being a 'youthful newt, going through its first exploration of the rocky territory just outside the stream.') like Xen, XGL/AIGLX, and others.
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  • Almost panicked there... (Score:5, Funny)

    by grub ( 11606 ) <slashdot@grub.net> on Wednesday April 19, 2006 @05:34PM (#15161015) Homepage Journal

    Planning Dapper +1, The Edgy Eft

    I read that headline eight times. I ran to the mirror and smiled to make sure both sides of my mouth were working. Then I made sure both my arms lifted fine. "Hrm...", I thought, "I didn't have a stroke. Why does that headline make no sense?"
    • I hope you get modded +5 insightful.

      The summary wasn't much better than the headline.

      (From the products-I'll-never-use-for-fear-of-aneurism-dept)
    • At first I thought it was some Dungeons and Dragons story.
    • Yeah, I get Ubuntu versioning, but jeez... this version name sucks. The only suckier name I can remember is when SuSE named their Chamelion maskot "Geeko".

      I initially thought Ubunutu was a bad name for a distro, but it's growing on me.

      I thought Warty Warthog was a *GREAT* name for a "beta" or early release.

      I thought Hoary Hedgehog was a dumb name - Hoary?!? Hoary???

      Breezy Badger was a dumb name for a release. I mean... what end of the badger is the breeze coming from?!?

      Dapper Drake was a less sucky name.

      But

    • Re:Almost panicked there... (Score:5, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19, 2006 @07:22PM (#15161547)
      Mod parent +1 Dapper.

  • She turned me into an Eft! (Score:5, Funny)

    by Shadow Wrought ( 586631 ) * <shadow,wrought&gmail,com> on Wednesday April 19, 2006 @05:37PM (#15161029) Homepage Journal
    I got better. But it did make me a bit, you know, edgy...

  • Edgy? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by grasshoppa ( 657393 )
    Why must everything be "Edgy" now a days? When I think of edgy, I think of some dude strung out on too much caffiene and cigs.

    If that's cool, whatever, I'm out of touch anymore anyway. But it still doesn't paint a good image.

    • Re:Edgy? (Score:2)

      by eln ( 21727 )
      When I think of edgy, I think of some dude strung out on too much caffiene and cigs.

      I think that describes the submitter of this article perfectly.
    • It's Extreme to the MAX.

      For some reason this reminded me of Jello X-Treme with reduced sugar. Nothing quite so extreme as watching your glucose levels....

    • Why must everything be "Edgy" now a days?

      As for the name, they couldn't come up with another 2-syllable adjective that started with the letter "E". And the two first adjectives ended up with "y":

      Breezy Badger,
      Hoary Hedge

      Edgy is a logical continuation to this trend.
    • Extreme Elephant

      Seriously though, I hope that, with all these improvements they keep Ubuntu clean and simple, it's what I like most about it. A good selection of packages to start with and, if you want more, you can get what you need through the repositories.

    • Re:Edgy? (Score:5, Funny)

      by Fred_A ( 10934 ) <fred.fredshome@org> on Wednesday April 19, 2006 @06:48PM (#15161402) Homepage
      Why must everything be "Edgy" now a days?


      I know I get Edgy when my Dapper is full !

      Eft ! Eft ! Come change my Dapper !

      *drools*

  • What's in a name? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by joe_bruin ( 266648 )
    As an Ubuntu user and fan, I'd just like to say: for fuck's sake, stop it with the stupid names! Breezy Badger, Dapper Drake, Edgy Eft. Seriously, I feel like a jackass enough saying "Ubuntu". I don't understand, are they actively trying to discourage people from using it?

    • Re:What's in a name? (Score:5, Funny)

      by ch-chuck ( 9622 ) on Wednesday April 19, 2006 @05:46PM (#15161087) Homepage
      Names matter a lot to those who don't understand what's behind it. For years I marveled at how you would start Windows 3.1 by typing "win" at a dos box. Very shrewd. If a *nix programmer did it, s/he would probably have made it a short snappy abbv for "Load Operating System and Execute Restart", and not think a thing about what it spells to the laity.

      Or "Load Unix and Start Running" ;)

    • Jovial Jackass?
    • The names are ok, they describe things perfectly and themselves become a unique identifier almost noone will have used before - for instance at this moment, google doesn't match anything with "edgy eft" as an exact phrase, you can bet your ass they will soon.

      Now, there is a problem however with upgrades.

      some people will be upgrading from Hoary Hedgehog to Edgy Eft.
      An old hedgehog to a youthful newt, its like the princess kissing the frog but in reverse.

      The problem I have is when your installation goes wrong

    • They think they are being clever (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Sycraft-fu ( 314770 ) on Wednesday April 19, 2006 @05:55PM (#15161135)
      It's real prevelant in the OSS world, unfortunately. Clever names that, well, aren't. OGG Vorbis is a good example. It just sounds... Odd. It's not descriptive of function and doesn't have a cool ring to it. I think that's part of the problem with adoption. MP3 sounds cool (so does AAC). They are the nifty-technology acronyms and they are easy to say.

      OSS people need to think more marketing driven. Had I been the one in charge of making the Ogg Vorbis thing, I probably would have looked at calling it something that made reference to MP3. Call it MP5 maybe, for 5th Gen Music Packer. Something that's clearly intended to draw a reference to MP3. If not something so direct, then think up a cool acronym, and figure out something that works for it. AAC is good, nice acronym, good name (Advanced Audio Codec). Sounds all high tech and shit.

      Same thing with shit like GIMP. Ok so the full name, GNU Image Manipulation Program isn't horrible, but calling it GIMP is fucking stupid. For nearly everyone the assocation is either Pulp Fiction, or a crippled person. Not something you want. Now Photoshop, that's a good name. Says what it does, sounds cool, conjures up ideas of picture editing, which is indeed what it's for.

      So I'm not at all suppirsed to see Ubutnu (which is odd to Western ears at any rate) doing stuff like this. I'm sure they think it's terribly cool and clever, and I'm sure many people agree with them. However I'm also pretty sure they haven't thought it over marketing wise.
      • So I'm not at all suppirsed to see Ubutnu (which is odd to Western ears at any rate...

        Ubuntu sounds odd enough to Western ears. Ubutnu sound positively pornographic. (Where can I download it?)

      • Re:They think they are being clever (Score:2, Interesting)

        by Anonymous Coward
        AAC sounds cool? wtf? What are you smoking? Both appreviations you mentioned are mostly spoken spelling out the abbreviation (how cool, I can say letters/numbers). Ogg is at least easily pronouncible, or if you want to spell it out, its just as easy as AAC and sounds better. And the full name, Ogg Vorbis, does give some kind of hint to what it is (Vorbis = Verbal, beginnings are the same... and the the matching video codec, Ogg Theora, Theora's start sounds like theatre. I've always thought the Ogg names we

      • OSS people need to think more marketing driven. Had I been the one in charge of making the Ogg Vorbis thing, I probably would have looked at calling it something that made reference to MP3. Call it MP5 maybe, for 5th Gen Music Packer.

        But then, that would have been really stupid, because MP3 doesn't stand for "Third Gen Music Packer" and there is no Audio Layer 5 of the MPEG standard, so your name would actually have had nothing to do with MP3. I'll take a silly-sounding brand name over a technically ina

        • Ok but you are being an over-pedantic geek, which is not the mass market. "Edgey Eft" isn't an accurate name either, as an OS has nothing to do with a newt, much less an edgey one (if they can even be edgey).

          For that matter companies do shit like what I was tlaking about all the time. Apple encodes files as "MP4" files. By your argument, that's bad because it's not MPEG-1, Layer-4, there's no such thing. The correct extension would be MPEG or MPG. It's jsut an MPEG transport stream. Doesn't matter what's in
      • OGG Vorbis is a good example. It just sounds... Odd. It's not descriptive of function and doesn't have a cool ring to it.

        A "cool ring" is something of a subjective matter, don't you think? Personally I think that Ogg Vorbis sounds far cooler than MP3.

        Same thing with shit like GIMP. Ok so the full name, GNU Image Manipulation Program isn't horrible, but calling it GIMP is fucking stupid

        Yes, if they'd called it something else---why, it might have become the world's most popular open source graphics applicatio

        • Re:They think they are being clever (Score:5, Insightful)

          by Sycraft-fu ( 314770 ) on Wednesday April 19, 2006 @06:28PM (#15161296)
          No, it's not entirely subjective. There are lots of firms that get paid to research this shit. There are names that work, and names that don't, and you can test for it.

          By the way GIMP is not a popular image editor, not even close. It's "popular" with the Linux crowd in so far as it's all that ships with most distros in that category and it's one o fthe only ones available. However it's by far in the minority. Photoshop (and it's lightweight Elements version) are the most popular, with Paint Shop Pro being second. I don't know after that, wouldn't supprise me if it was Paint.NET.

          Using Ubutnu as an example is a bad idea because you are talking about OSS people who can use works like "grep, awk, and sed" in a conversation and not find it at all weird (you should see the look mom gave me when I was talking about grep, it got even more confused when I spelled out the acronym for her). Also I wouldn't tout it too heavily. Popular? Sure,. More popular than RedHat or Debain? You'd have to prove that to me.

          You are confusing markets. Geeks don't tend to care much about shit like what something looks like or what it's called. You can call your webserver ShitServ for all I care, if it's a good product, I'll use it (though I might change the version stright it reports). However I am talking about mass-market stuff here. For normal users, style matters a LOT. Look at the iPod. It wasn't some magical MP3 player that was tons better than any other. No what it did was make MP3 players cool. They weren't a geek toy anymore, but something that was hip to own. All about the style and the marketing. If you took the same player, but made it shit-brown and called it the AHPMP (Advanced Highly Portable Music Player) and advertised it was spartan ads, you'd sell all of none, despite the functionality being the same as the iPod.
      • But it's not "GIMP", it's "The GIMP".
      • The vast majority of people on this world don't use English as a mother language. They don't even speak it, for the most part, regardless of whether it's the world's most widely spoken language or not. Do the names for various software applications mean the same thing to them as they do to you?

        Is Ubuntu less offensive to a Corsican reading the newspaper "u ribombu" or a Zulu businessman using Linux to do his backoffice?

        Does GIMP sound the same when read by a Frenchman, or by someone from China who doesn't e

    • Re:What's in a name? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Eberlin ( 570874 ) on Wednesday April 19, 2006 @05:56PM (#15161140) Homepage
      I'm sure it's been visited before -- here's a list of names we're used to...but would seem strange without some sort of common usage or marketing force behind them:

      Windows NT, ME, XP, Vista, Xbox
      OSX...Jaguar, Panther
      Apache, IIS
      iPod, Nano
      MS Excel, Powerpoint
      Yahoo, Google

      Ubuntu -- Humanity to others. Now as far as the naming conventions of hoary hedgehog, breezy badger, dapper drake, and now edgy eft...get over it. There are lots of fscked up names for projects and sure, it'd be better if they had more appropriate names, but they're still as useful. It's a matter of pulling enough of a marketing spin on things, that's all.

      I like and use ubuntu (well kubuntu, really). I don't care about the naming conventions. If nothing else, it's a conversation starter. "Yeah, at home I run dapper drake" -- "dapper drake, what's that?" "oh, it's a version of a linux distro called Ubuntu...you know how Windows has all these version numbers and strange names? Ubuntu's folks decided to use animals in theirs. Kinda like Apple and their big cats."

      To each his own, bro...and as long as the Ubuntu folks come up with good stuff and package it in that wonderfully user-friendly manner, I'm all for it. Now if they call the next version "fscked-up falcon" I may reconsider. Nah, I'll probably still use it.
    • Just call them by their numbers. Badger was 5.x, Drake is 6.x, etc.

    • Re:What's in a name? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Wylfing ( 144940 ) <brian@@@wylfing...net> on Wednesday April 19, 2006 @06:12PM (#15161214) Homepage Journal
      As an Ubuntu user and fan, I'd just like to say: for fuck's sake, stop it with the stupid names! Breezy Badger, Dapper Drake, Edgy Eft. Seriously, I feel like a jackass enough saying "Ubuntu". I don't understand, are they actively trying to discourage people from using it?

      For fuck's sake, stop being 13 years old. If saying "Ubuntu" is enough to make you feel like a jackass, you've got some issues. And anyway, I cannot really understand how "Ubuntu" is any worse than "SuSE." Furthermore, names like Dapper Drake are code names for release targets, not brands.

      • Re:What's in a name? (Score:5, Insightful)

        by TheDarkener ( 198348 ) on Wednesday April 19, 2006 @06:59PM (#15161455) Homepage
        For fuck's sake, stop being 13 years old. If saying "Ubuntu" is enough to make you feel like a jackass, you've got some issues.

        Not if you're trying to convince a company to use Ubuntu you don't... To the non-Linux crowd (99% of the population), telling your public relations people that you just "Uninstalled Windows XP Professional" and installed "Ubuntu Dapper Drake", they're gonna get a mental image of a Dapper Dan doll in the woods or something.

        I agree that the names could be better - but it all depends on who you're talking to. Engineers love weird names like that, it promotes a sense of fun and optimism instead of something mundane and "work"ish. I don't see anything worse about the name "Ubuntu" than "Google" or "Yahoo" at all, at least Ubuntu means something significant.

        So "Ubuntu 6.06" to the marketing types, and "Dapper Drake" to everyone who's not trying to fit the mold I guess.
    • There you go! You gave half of "Dapper +2" away!!!
    • Perhaps I'm simplifying the matter but couldn't you just call it Ubuntu 6.06?

    • It's called fun (Score:5, Insightful)

      by QuantumG ( 50515 ) <qg@biodome.org> on Wednesday April 19, 2006 @06:26PM (#15161291) Homepage Journal
      Maybe you've heard of it. That's what us open source developers do, have fun. If you don't want to use our software, fine, don't.

      What's the difference between open source software an proprietary software?

      Open source software is made by engineers.
      Proprietary software is made by managers.

    • Yeah, but just think how much fun the F release will be. :)

    • Re:What's in a name? (Score:2, Insightful)

      by aphexddb ( 87610 )
      for fuck's sake, stop it with the stupid names!
      Well said sir. For the love of god, at least have an alternate 'serious' name that could possibly be brought up in a meeting with some directors regarding the OS to be installed on all 5,000 corporate desktops. Saying "Ubuntu" and fucking "Edgy Eft" will make you look spectacularly lame in those meetings.

      Just a little perspective.

    • Re:What's in a name? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by rsidd ( 6328 ) on Thursday April 20, 2006 @02:00AM (#15163095)
      I just love it when random slashdotters whine that Mark Shuttleworth, one of the richest South Africans, one of the first space tourists, the man who sold Thawte to Verisign and made enough to basically retire on, doesn't know how to market his products...

      If you think Ubuntu is a dumb name, that's your problem. Lots of people seem to like it fine.

  • I'll wait for Flat Flounder or Garish Grasshopper (Score:3, Insightful)

    by ScentCone ( 795499 ) on Wednesday April 19, 2006 @05:39PM (#15161049)
    Yes, Ubuntu, we get it. I mean, I know version numbers in press releases are so corporate and everything, but but some day (say, when they're releasing Zoroastrian Zebra or whatever) they'll look back on this little phase and feel a little silly. Like when you see your really cool high school yearbook shot about 10 years later, when it's so absolutley, positively, not cool (and worse: you realize it wasn't then, either!).
    • I'm rooting for them to shift to rappers after the animal thing's done. Easy-E, Marky Mark...there's a huge collection waiting to be used. As a plus, a rapper-themed naming scheme has built-in celebrity endorsement tie-ins. ("Use Ubuntu, yo! Fo Shiz!")
      • As a plus, a rapper-themed naming scheme has built-in celebrity endorsement tie-ins. ("Use Ubuntu, yo! Fo Shiz!")

        I don't know, open-sourcey, info-wants-to-be-free, sandal-wearing Ubuntu-ites may not exactly hit it off with the rapper crowd. I mean, there are enough mixed messages in rap already: "He had what I wanted, so I wacked him and took it. Me so blingy! But remember kids, it's bad to download and steal my music, um, because I don't actually wack people for their bling, I um... work with my corpora

    • Re:I'll wait for Flat Flounder or Garish Grasshopp (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Chris Pimlott ( 16212 ) on Wednesday April 19, 2006 @06:28PM (#15161299)
      Do you run Windows? Which version? Memphis? Cairo? Whistler? Longhorn? [wikipedia.org] Or maybe you're a Mac guy. So would that be Cheetah? Panther? Tiger? Leopard? [wikipedia.org] Of course, now that they've moved to Intel chips you can run either one on your Yonah CPU.

      Everyone does it, it doesn't hurt anyone, and you can always call it by the version number if you really want. Well, except for Windows :P*

      *(yes, I know there really is a version number but it won't mean much to most people)
      • Everyone does it, it doesn't hurt anyone, and you can always call it by the version number if you really want

        I know, you're right that everyone uses project code names. Traditionally, that was so that it could be referred to in in-house correspondence, at least for a while, without so much of a risk that if such stuff got out that it would directly wreck some market position or give competition something to chew on. After that it just plain became fashionable. I've even all for that. It's just the... wel
      • is that apple codenames seem much better known than ms ones.

        people seem to use ms codenames when discussing the betas but as soon as there is an actual release they become largely forgotten very quickly (does apple actually put its codenames on the boxes? ms certainly doesn't).

  • It's great to plan ahead, but... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by betasaur ( 12453 ) on Wednesday April 19, 2006 @05:42PM (#15161063)
    "We can afford to take some risks with Dapper+1, because Dapper has turned
    out so well."

    I love Ubuntu and all that, but jeez, get it out the door first!

    • Dapper is pretty much out the door. the last few flights have been pretty good, and the release was delayed precisely for this: If Edgy Eft has stability/desktop/whatever issues, Dapper will be supported for long enough and good for long enough that people uncomfortable with this change of direction can wait a round or two.
    • Wrong mentality dude. The planners for a project must get the plans/decisions and thinking done about a project well in advance of the aviliability of the team. Otherwise the edgy team will be ready, and no-one will be sure whats in it.


      Personally I'd have had this conversation a while ago. That way, when the dapper implementation team hit the 'send' button, everything will be in place to get started on edgy.

  • New Icon? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by stinerman ( 812158 ) on Wednesday April 19, 2006 @05:50PM (#15161112)
    This is rather off-topic so I'll expect the usual down-mod.

    Perhaps /. should get a new icon for Ubuntu instead of using the Debian one. Yes, I know that Ubuntu is based on Debian Sid, but seeing that Ubuntu is arguably more popular than Debian (based on Distrowatch stats), perhaps an Ubuntu section/icon would be in order?

    • Re:New Icon? (Score:3, Funny)

      by dsginter ( 104154 )
      I vote for the two chicks at the same time [hup.hu] icon that we've all come to know and love.

  • Alphabeticism? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by vishbar ( 862440 ) on Wednesday April 19, 2006 @05:54PM (#15161132)

    Are they going in alphabetical order?

    At first, they had Hoary Hedgehog, but then they went Breezy Badger, Dapper Drake, and Edgy Eft. If they're going to do this, what happened to the 'C'? And why not start with an 'A'?

  • Good letter (Score:5, Insightful)

    by FishandChips ( 695645 ) on Wednesday April 19, 2006 @06:00PM (#15161155) Journal
    It's hard not to warm to this announcement, imho. It is written in a clear style by someone who comes across as open, approachable and not afraid to take risks. Such a contrast to corporate chiefs who bark out orders, rubbish their competitors or spout incomprehensible jargon written for them by a marketing droid. OK the names for Ubuntu releases may be a bit eccentric but this cool, direct approach is what attracts me to Linux. It's my PC to do with as I wish and it absolutely doesn't have to have a toad from the office or authentication central inside it.

    Just my 2 cents, but I think Ubuntu does have some pretty big challenges in front of it quite apart from incorporating "edgy" new technology. It needs to find a self-sustaining financial model and some kind of interface with business and the enterprise, which the Dapper release is meant to kick off, I believe. Anyway, Kudos to them.
  • As I understand it, he is saying that this can be a more risky release with more experimentation because people can always say "well, dapper is the stable one. Use that for production systems." Won't that hurt your credibility, if you have different releases of different quality? Wouldn't it be smarter to have a "risk team" playing around for the next release while the current release is being polished so that when the rest of the team starts working on the next release there's already been enough time on i

    • Re:I don't know if I understand/agree with Mark... (Score:4, Informative)

      by poofyhairguy82 ( 635386 ) on Wednesday April 19, 2006 @07:15PM (#15161516) Journal
      Won't that hurt your credibility, if you have different releases of different quality?

      Not really. From day one with Dapper Mark has planned for it to be a higher quality release. For example, he plans to support it longer than the rest. Why did he do this? Well for one many people don't like an upgrade every six months. I talk to some people that think that Windows upgrades (like SP2) come around too quickly. The Dapper release is for these people. If the corporate world wants, it can skip from Dapper quality release to Dapper quality release (as such will be released every two years) while being supported the entire way.

      A problem with Dapper is that "higher quality" also means "more boring." Ubuntu is meant to be on the bleeding edge, but with Dapper less risks were taken. Edgy will fix this problem and bring Ubuntu back to the edge once more.

      Wouldn't it be smarter to have a "risk team" playing around for the next release while the current release is being polished so that when the rest of the team starts working on the next release there's already been enough time on it to make sure it is production quality?

      There are many things needed to make a production quality Linux OS. Ubuntu is a slave to its release cycle- if the programs are ready when Ubuntu releases then it will be a good release. Dapper is more "corporate worthy" than say Breezy because when it releases it will have many landmark pieces of software in it - a non buggy OpenOffice 2, Firefox 1.5, etc. Mark can't change the release dates for all software used in Ubuntu, so some releases will just have to be worse than others for this reason.

      Plus, making every release of equal quality will cost a lot more....

      • OKay.. I see what you're saying. But how will people know which releases are which. (meaning laypersons)

        Also, I didn't realize that ONLY this release was going to have the extended support. I thought it was from now on they were making releases that would get the longer support. So the in-between, risky, releases will use the breezy support model?

        • I love answering questions about Ubuntu (Score:5, Informative)

          by poofyhairguy82 ( 635386 ) on Wednesday April 19, 2006 @08:11PM (#15161749) Journal
          OKay.. I see what you're saying. But how will people know which releases are which. (meaning laypersons)

          The Dapper quality releases will be strongly tied to future corporate plans. Plus in every release announcement they will clearly state that the Dapper quality releases get extra long support.

          Yet the overall quality of the other Ubuntu releases will never hopefully lower to a point where they are unusable by lay persons. I would hope that the kinds of people that a Dapper release was made for (IT managers) would be able to figure out which releases to use where.

          Also, I didn't realize that ONLY this release was going to have the extended support. I thought it was from now on they were making releases that would get the longer support. So the in-between, risky, releases will use the breezy support model?

          Every two years will bring a Dapper quality release. The way Mark has described it before, its as if the releases in between those two years are basically building up to these Dapper quality releases: [ubuntu.com]

          Our current plan is that the Dapper Drake (Ubuntu 6.06 if we hit our June 2006 release date goal) will be the last of this first "set" of releases. So post-Dapper we have the opportunity to define a new "feel" or overarching theme. It would be unlikely to be... blue. But it might be substantially different to the current Human theme.

          Each of these in between releases will get the same level of support as all the Ubuntus before Dapper.

          I personally have been excited about Edgy long before it was announced. Once you get the hang of it, its easy to spot which Ubuntu releases are for you.

          The first releases after the two year major releases will have changes in styles and will be very distinct and maybe a little crazy- just like Warty was when it hit back in the day. All the exciting things the major release had to skip during the year can be added to this release. Mark has already said that Edgy will bring a new color scheme- exciting!

          The second release after the major release will be the best of the in betweens- the craziness of the previous release will be polished down some and the time when these releases will come (Spring) is after all the major releases at the end of the previous year. Hoary was really great for this reason.

          The third release after a major release will be the most compromised- many new things might be dumped on this release so the Dapper quality release can use the release as development time for its more boring platform. Long before Breezy came out I was scared because it in a bad time of the year for a distro release (right before the new Open Office, Xorg and Firefox were released) and because it had to take on large bites (modular Xorg before Xorg was ready, GCC transition for PART of the system, etc.) to make life easier for Dapper. As a result Breezy seems to be the most buggy release (yet many of these problems - like floppies not working and an unstable OpenOffice- has been fixed post release).

          Then we have another Dapper quality release and the IT managers of the world can pay attention again. Long live Ubuntu.

  • youthful eft? (Score:3, Funny)

    by dotpavan ( 829804 ) on Wednesday April 19, 2006 @06:12PM (#15161211) Homepage
    confirmed: the homepage would be myspace.com :)

  • Brainstorming... (Score:3, Funny)

    by 9mm Censor ( 705379 ) * on Wednesday April 19, 2006 @06:36PM (#15161333) Homepage
    Freakin' Franklin Gonzo George Holy Holistics Invisible Irwin Joyful Juliet Kingsized Kings Laughable Lables Micky Mouse Nourished Nigerians Outstanding Opensource Pornographic Phonographs Quenched Quickens Real Reasons Super Skidmarks Triumphant Tubas Upsidedown Umbrellas Victorious Villans Wicked Wakasachi Xtreme Xenocide Yelling Yams Zaney Zoolander (its linux, fuck copyright)
  • get any worse, Wizards of the Coast introduces the successor to such blockbuster swords as Excalibur, Blackrazor, and Stormbringer: Edgy Eft!

  • 'The Edgy Eft' (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19, 2006 @06:51PM (#15161411)
    Specific Magic Weapons
    The Edgy Eft
    Stats: Planning Dapper +1, (1d4+1, 20/x3)
    Special: 3 Times per day, the wielder can activate this weapon using a command word (anything alliterative), causing it to gain +2 to attack and damage against any single foe designated in the previous round. This effect lasts for 1 hour. The target may be changed at any time by pointing it at a new target and shouting 'emerge /bin/target!'

    Description: This light walking stick seems to have an air of ease-of-use surrounding it, despite being an exotic weapon. It is made of solid chrome, with a gemstone at the top emmiting rainbow colors randomly at all hours, thus earning it it's nickname.

    Minimum CL (coder level) 10. Must know C and be a worshiper of Linux to create. Market Value: 0gp*. Cost to create: 10,000gp

    *Must be installed by a cleric of Linux, who typically demand pizza and cola in exchange for their services.

    • The target may be changed at any time by pointing it at a new target and shouting 'emerge /bin/target!'

      Are you suggesting this weapon was first forged in the Dales of Gentoo?

  • Add Beagle! (Score:4, Interesting)

    by MrNonchalant ( 767683 ) on Wednesday April 19, 2006 @07:08PM (#15161489)
    If they're experimenting with new stuff (Xen and XGL are pretty risky already) why not add Beagle? It's matured pretty rapidly and with both Vista and Tiger sporting real-time search capability now is the time to get it into Linux.

  • Eft? F'd? (Score:5, Funny)

    by frohike ( 32045 ) <bard.allusion@net> on Wednesday April 19, 2006 @07:39PM (#15161619) Homepage

    I can't be the only one who heard "F'd" mentally when reading that headline... hopefully that's not a statement on the release or users who choose to install it. :D

    (I love Ubuntu and their funky names.. bring it on!)

  • Obligatory Image of an Eft (Score:3, Interesting)

    by RingDev ( 879105 ) on Wednesday April 19, 2006 @10:34PM (#15162315) Homepage Journal
    http://museum.gov.ns.ca/mnh/nature/salamand/thumbs /images/red-eft.jpg [gov.ns.ca]

    Just so the Photoshopers have a starting point ;)

    -Rick

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