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Fedora Core 5 Available
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on Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:34 AM
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Jan Slupski writes "New release day today. Fedora Core 5 CD images are now available for download (i386, ppc, x86_64) on the ftp servers or via the torrent page." Linclips also has a short screencast on some of the default functionality.
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bug sorted? (Score:5, Informative)
Has this been fixed in this one yet, or is it worth waiting a few more days for the fix to be rolled out?
(It was identified too late to be pushed to the mirrors)
Info about it is here [lwn.net].
Re:bug sorted? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:bug sorted? (Score:4, Informative)
(Last Journal: Friday June 30 2006, @11:10PM)
Rebuild your kernel per directions found on several sites, install the drivers per nvidia's instructions...
game. xgl. whatever.
Re:bug sorted? (Score:4, Informative)
Don't blow it out of proportion. Fedora Core is a distro for developers and hobbyists (which is why I use it). For that audience, this bug isn't anything more than a minor annoyance.
Re:bug sorted? (Score:5, Informative)
Normally, they do. The Nvidia drivers are broken because the spinlock macros were accidentally made GPL-only. The first kernel update will fix the problem.
install the drivers per nvidia's instructions...
It's probably better if you don't. If you read the Fedora Projects notes on 3rd party drivers [fedoraproject.org], you'll notice that Nvidia and ATI both break X in subtle ways, and may leave GL in an unworkable state, even after uninstalling them.
Poor testing (Score:5, Interesting)
So if I wait for 2.6.16 kernel on FC5 is that going to break with nVidia too? I saw a comment in the 2.6.16 story saying that doesn't work either (may have been distro specific).
Damn people, I understood the 4K stacks thing - make a good decision for good reason and let nVidia catch up. This utter disrespect for drivers used by a large number of people is really unacceptable. Actually, when a disto fails to test with drivers used by a large portion of their userbase, it is the user who feels the disrespect. Please don't make excuses - that's disrespectful too. Just get FC6 right.
That said, I'm downloading FC5 now ;-)
Re:bug sorted? (Score:5, Insightful)
(Last Journal: Thursday February 23 2006, @02:47AM)
Of course, I don't *like* binary drivers very much, but ATI and NVidia have agreed to stick with 'em if you want 3d support on their modern cards. I have a Radeon 9250 (with the 128-bit datapath), which is about as peppy a card as you can get and still have open source drivers.
If the Open Graphics Project [duskglow.com] ever releases any hardware, unless it's $400 or something like that, I'll buy it -- it'll be fully open source.
If one vendor would release even a half-decent card and support it fully with open-source drivers, I'd buy it in a moment (binary microcode is okay, but I want everything running host-side to be OSS).
I know that few people feel this way, and most gamers are happy just using binary drivers and the current NVidia or ATI cards, but there are a group of people who feel the same way I do.
Flash is Evil! Evil, I say! (Score:4, Funny)
(http://www.intelligentblogger.com/ | Last Journal: Monday August 27, @11:47AM)
That screencast is in Flash, and we all know that Flash is evil.
Thus, Fedora must be evil by extension.
Fedora is the development branch for RedHat. If Fedora is evil, RedHat must also be evil.
Microsoft is well known for being evil.
We all know that RedHat is a competitor to Microsoft.
Ergo, RedHat is the next Microsoft.
QED
(Yes, this is a joke. Laugh.)
Screenshots? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Screenshots? (Score:4, Funny)
(http://slashdot.org/ | Last Journal: Wednesday December 06 2006, @08:53AM)
If it's not high enough, then it's not even worth booting.
Careful... (Score:1)
MP3's? (Score:1)
Re:MP3's? (Score:5, Informative)
(http://slashdot.org/ | Last Journal: Sunday August 10 2003, @06:00AM)
From http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ForbiddenItems [fedoraproject.org]
MP3 encoding/decoding support is not included in any Fedora application because MP3 is heavily patented in several regions including the United States. The patent holder is unwilling to give an unrestricted patent grant, as required by the GPL. Other platforms might have paid the royalty and/or included proprietary software. Other Linux distributions not based in a region affected by the patent might ship MP3 decoders/encoders or they might have included proprietary software. However, Fedora Core cannot and does not ship MP3 decoders/encoders in order to serve the goal of shipping only free and open source software that is not restricted by software patents.
Fedora Suggests: If possible, use patent unrestricted formats such as Ogg Vorbis (a lossy audio codec that has better quality than MP3), or FLAC (a lossless audio codec).
Re:MP3's? (Score:4, Informative)
(Last Journal: Thursday May 13 2004, @07:26PM)
Re:Fallacy (Score:5, Insightful)
Then why does the Ogg Vorbis FAQ [vorbis.com] say, "it is completely free, open, and unpatented"?
Why does the Flac FAQ [sourceforge.net] describe it as an "open patent free codec"?
Please explain in what sense they are encumbered.
Re:MP3's? (Score:4, Informative)
I agree with everything on that page, except for Java support. I develop Java and suggest that anybody who wants to develop serious Java applications use the official Java JDK from Sun. Otherwise, everything else is spot-on to help make Fedora a serious Linux desktop distribution.
[off topic] GPL v3 and Linux distribs (Score:1)
(http://sree.kotay.com/)
I think ideology and capitalism are about to meet again - mainly because of the server loopholes [kotay.com]
--
graphicallyspeaking [kotay.com]
Yowza (Score:3, Interesting)
(http://www.livejournal.com/users/maxomai)
To the tune of a Dire Straits song... (Score:4, Funny)
(http://slashdot.org/ | Last Journal: Saturday November 03, @04:58AM)
I want my.... I want my KDE....
I want my.... I want my KDE....
Now look at them desktops, that's the way to do it
You get your DCOP from your KDE
That ain't working, that's the way to code it
Widgets for nothing and your glyphs for free.
Bow that ain't working, that's the way to code it
Lemme tell ya, them guys ain't dumb
Maybe get a glitch in your brand-new icon
Maybe get a glitchy core-dump.
We gotta install ISO 9000
Custom language packs
We gotta move those partition boundries
We gotta move that Berlin GUI
Upgrading (Score:3, Interesting)
(http://www.parallelrealities.co.uk/)
Re:Upgrading (Score:5, Informative)
(http://roo.no-ip.org/fish/)
Good for Older laptop? (Score:2, Interesting)
(http://www.pilotresources.com/)
selinux (Score:3, Informative)
(Last Journal: Thursday February 23 2006, @02:47AM)
Some initial installation notes (Score:2, Insightful)
Fedora Mirrors (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Fedora Mirrors (Score:5, Informative)
what's included (Score:2)
Kernel version (Score:4, Informative)
(http://slashdot.org/ | Last Journal: Saturday November 03, @04:58AM)
Just as a personal note, I compile my own kernels, using the vanilla kernel patched with Andrew Morton's patches first, then with whatever of Red Hat's will still apply cleanly. Andrew Morton's -mm patches adds a lot of extremely useful functionality, for me, so that's my patchset of choice. (There are some nice real-time patches out there, too, but they're generally not compatible with other patchsets, making them a pain.)
Zen (Score:2)
(Last Journal: Friday June 30 2006, @11:10PM)
I like the idea of being able to do some extensive testing on virtual machine setup, run win2k, run FC5, run gentoo, and probably ubuntu too. All at the same time.
Very slick.
I look forward to it.
Re:Zen (Score:4, Informative)
Right now, though, there is a good free (beer) alternative: VMWare Player [vmware.com]. I've been using it with a Win2k guest and it works great. A bit sluggish on Athlon XP's (2500+) and lower, but it feels almost native on an Athlon 64 (3200+).
To create a disk, install qemu and use the following command to create the disk:
qemu-img create -f vmdk disk.vmdk 15G
To create your *.vmx file use VM Builder [dcgrendel.be] (it's a webapp).
Open the VMX file in VMWare Player and install Windows normally.
To install VMware Tools, just download an old version (tar.gz, not the rpm) of the Workstation or the betas of the Server. There is a "windows.iso" file in the archive that has everything you need.
Oh, great, I've just upgraded to FC4 (Score:2)
(http://russnelson.com/)
Fedora is on a fast development cycle (Score:4, Insightful)
(http://www.networkmirror.com/ | Last Journal: Thursday July 05, @04:34PM)
eh! (Score:1)
(http://www.meteorxl.com/cdeuel)
Beagle (Dashboard) in Gnome (Score:2)
(Last Journal: Tuesday November 06, @11:44PM)
Probably the worst beginner's distribution (Score:2, Informative)
(http://www.codemonkeyramblings.com/)
1) It was slow.
2) It was a bitch to install... the installer kept freezing halfway through or dying on certain packages for certain teams.
3) The whole system would sometimes get unwieldy.
IMO, it is the worst beginner's distribution because of how little time there is between releases. It takes the cake from Mandrake. Knoppix, Ubuntu, SuSE, RHEL, these are good distributions to start with. Fedora is not. It's cobbled together compared to these distributions. Just look at how much time has been put into the changes in OpenSuSE by comparison, just to go from
I know some consider it trolling and some love Fedora for various reasons, but I have seen it make people say that Windows kicked ass compared to Linux because the Fedora installer alone just crapped out on them so much that it wasted their time. If you want to introduce someone to Linux, use any other major distribution, even if you have to **buy** it from RedHat or SuSE. I used to be one of the "Linux guys," but the experience for many was so painful, and Linux got such a bad name among those with no prior experience, that out of embarrasment I had to remind people that I am first and foremost a Mac and BeOS guy, not a Linux fan. The Linux users really got undeserved egg on their faces based on how bad FC 4 was for most of the students, and what they were doing was not so hard that it should have been happening.
Fedora is a hobbiest OS (Score:4, Insightful)
(Last Journal: Friday June 30 2006, @11:10PM)
Point release version numbers don't really apply to something that is perpetually beta. There are dozens of Fedora based distros...ever notice that they all make changes/mods for better security/hardwaredetection/userinterface/etc..
I know this is a flame, and some fedora fanboys will mod be down for this and flame me, but please...do look around> this is a perpetual beta. If you want the 'good stuff' pay for it, or download something that has another couple of steps of tweaking built in.
Re:Fedora is a hobbiest OS (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://www.secondshiftpodcast.com/)
Also, Fedora doesn't have point releases because point releases are old-fashioned. There's no need to wait for bug fixes to accumulate before making them available anymore because tools like Yum can be used to make them available immediately. New features are added every six months or so in a new major version, but it serves the same purpose as what used to be called a point release. The only difference is in the numbers.
FC5 mirror (Score:4, Informative)
(http://www.fi.muni.cz/~kas/ | Last Journal: Thursday August 11 2005, @06:10AM)
ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/linux/fedora-core/5/ [linux.cz]
-Yenya
Upgrade via yum is easier (Score:4, Informative)
Next, "yum upgrade"
And you don't even have to reboot...
Fedora is great for server duties (Score:1, Insightful)
BitTorrent seeds (Score:2)
(Last Journal: Wednesday February 28 2007, @06:59PM)
At the moment, I can't see any peers who have data, and the seeds don't appear to be sending data yet. The amount of seeds is slowly rising though...
Is there a 3D-enabled desktop in FC5? (Score:1)
(http://www.ccirrus.per.sg/rfc13109)
First security patch... (Score:1)
* From: Fedora Project
* To: fedora-announce-list redhat com
* Subject: Announcing the release of Fedora Core 5
* Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:18:16 -0500
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-l
* From: "Raymond Strode"
* To: fedora-announce-list redhat com
* Subject: [SECURITY] Fedora Core 5 Update: xorg-x11-server-1.0.1-9
* Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 10:55:41 -0500
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-l
--
Romain.
Distro Convergence (Score:1)
(http://amateurpundits.blogspot.com/)
Yes, there's still an rpm-deb split, but with apt and yum, it's all the same to the end user. The server software suite is basically identical. The 'distros that matter' all offer regular patches and easy core updates/upgrades, and documentation is improving across the board.
I was going to install Ubuntu breezy, but then realized I lose nothing by going with Fedora Core 5. I just get the latest versions of the standard software available now. I'm sure if I were installing in May, Ubuntu dapper would be the natural choice. I wonder if within a year, the only question remaining will be: do you prefer brown themes or blue themes?
Cent OS - Free RedHat (Score:3, Informative)
(http://www.che.sc.edu/faculty/gatzke/ | Last Journal: Monday May 29 2006, @10:02AM)
Remember, you can get the free version of RedHat from CentOS
http://www.centos.org/ [centos.org]
No silly annual payments just to get support.
I personally use knoppix / debian since RedHat started charging for support.
People need to know CentOS is out there.
Bought on DVD (Score:3, Informative)
evolution note (Score:1)
Phobia for odd numbers keeps me away... (Score:2)
Also, there seems to be some issues that creep up with odd numbered FCs that tend to smooth out in the evens, ya think?
Access to more than 2TB disk space (Score:2)
S
Thanks, but no thanks... (Score:1)
Yes, but... (Score:1)
(http://toe.ch/ | Last Journal: Friday October 29 2004, @05:11PM)
OT: Good, Slashdot! (Score:2)
I am done with OSNews
Does FC5's udev work with orinoco wireless cards? (Score:1)
(http://whereswalden.com/)
note from a long-time linux user (Score:1)
(Last Journal: Friday August 24, @06:41PM)
Specifically, all the multimedia stuff worked out of the box.
All i did was install Ubuntu and then run the Automatix script. It worked like a charm and I am now a happy linux user once again. It worked so well that it is drawing me away from windows for use as my file sharing client computer.
Go team! (Score:1)
(http://dissectional.dyndns.org/)
GG, Internode!
Idiots.
Why all the Fedora bashing? (Score:1)
I like the ability to build things from source in a correctly configured and working build environment. Yes, the Fedora guys patch the kernel, but at least I can easily obtain source and expect it to build too.
The user interface is usable for multiple tasks and for extended periods. It isn't trying to be Enlightenment.
Package management is standardized, usable (there's that word again), and packages are readily available.
I enjoy using Linux, and I use it to do real work. Unfortunately there aren't many distros that lend themselves to this type of use. Fedora is at the top of my very short list.
And Fedora *finally* gets Firefox/Thunderbird 1.5! (Score:2)
(http://lottery.merseyworld.com/)
"Ah, but you can always build the Rawhide release on FC4" I hear you cry - sorry, bzzt, neither Firefox nor Thunderbird 1.5 will build without some mods of the respective Rawhide .src.rpm files. A very poor showing from Fedora devs there - let's happily jump to OO.org 2.X in the middle of FC4, but not go up a minor version of Firefox/Thunderbird during the same period.
In the end, I lost patience and packaged up the original mozilla.com binary .tar.gz's into RPMs using Thomas Cheung's Firefox [fedoranews.org]/Thunderbird [fedoranews.org] instructions, but I really shouldn't have to do this!
Uh 5 CDs? (Score:1)
(http://notoroge.trap17.com/)
Although I must say, the interface looks mint.
Wireless support (Score:1)
First observations (Score:1)
(http://www.iki.fi/hyvatti/)
When in text mode installer, I go to package group details with F2, then select all packages, click OK, when I go again there, they are not selected. Therefore, it is not possible to install emacs initially, as emacs is not installed by default, at least in productivity / office profile.
Graphical installer cannot be used with flat panels, as the X server starts with vertical refresh rate over 85 Hz, and usually flat panels top below that. Only text mode installation is possible with flat panels.
Re:Redhat Naming (Score:5, Informative)
(http://www.intelligentblogger.com/ | Last Journal: Monday August 27, @11:47AM)
Fedora is a hat. You see the "Red Hat" logo? The type of hat the guy is wearing in the logo is called a Fedora [wikipedia.org]. Given that the hat is named after a Frech play, I don't think that anyone is really worried about what it means in Portugese.
Re:Redhat Naming (Score:1)
Re:Redhat Naming (Score:1)
Re:Redhat Naming (Score:2)
(http://www.bogado.net/ | Last Journal: Tuesday June 14 2005, @09:40PM)
"Fedora" has no meaning in Portuguese, but it does seam like the feminine for the word "fedor" and may sound like that to the more ignorant people. Usually switching a "o" for an "a" in the end of a word does turn it into a feminine word, for instance "enfermeiro" is a male nurse, while a "enfermeira" is a female nurse or "empregado" e "empregada" for employee. So you see at a first glance "fedor" e "fedora" may seem a male/female variation.
Re:What's with 2 pixel width default font. (Score:2)
(Last Journal: Friday May 05 2006, @11:53PM)
Perhaps your eyes are young and healthy. Many people have trouble seeing little tiny things. For ages the work-around has been to run at 640x480. It's much nicer to just use fonts with lots of pixels so that things aren't so pixelated. Many LCDs look wonderful in exactly one resolution, the very highest, and crappy in all other resolutions. So a good installer will pick the highest resolution, then choose fonts big enough for old people to read.
You can change the font if it is too big.
If the font were too small, you couldn't read well enough to change it!