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SUSE 10.0 OSS Released
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CowboyNeal
on Thu Oct 06, 2005 05:26 PM
from the love-the-lizard dept.
from the love-the-lizard dept.
O0o0Oblubb!O0o0O writes "Today, Novell released SuSE 10.0 OSS for download. Product highlights include kernel 2.6.13, gcc 4.0.2, glibc 2.3.5, improved boot times and Xen 3. Torrents are available for the i386, ppc and x86_64 versions. The downloadable OSS edition lacks some packages for licensing reasons of which some, like Java, can be installed via package repository."
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Stability (Score:3, Insightful)
Also, the software is getting way to bloated. Why all the software packages SUSE?
Re:Stability (Score:3, Insightful)
No, really. You aren't required to install all of them, after all.
Re:Stability (Score:4, Insightful)
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Re:Stability (Score:5, Insightful)
Also, the software is getting way to bloated. Why all the software packages SUSE?
As has been the case for years, suse releases an upgrade about every 6 months, so I'm not sure I understand what your objection is. Nobody is forcing you to upgrade - and if you prefer Slackware, run slackware.
As to the software getting "too bloated", nobody is forcing you to install anything - you can easily install a bare bones system, without X-windows if that makes you happy. It's all in the install menu, these are all very basic concepts.
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Re:bloatedness - good point (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:bloatedness - good point (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:bloatedness - good point (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:Stability (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm not sure what you mean by "hobbyists" but it sounds vaguely insulting.
IMHO it would be more accurate to say that SuSE 10 is a full-featured distro for linux power users, while the more verticalized sles/nld are meant for the corporate market, managers who don't mind things being a little stale, and who want to have an 800-number to call, any time, should they ever have any questions.
OpenSuSE is in some ways analagous to fedora, except that you can't get a boxed set of fedora linux, nor fedora manuals, nor any fedora support from the vendor, while with SuSE, you have the option of downloading and freely using OpenSuSE, or purchasing SuSE 10.0 retail, which comes with all the extras -
BTW I know of several small businesses running their networks and services on suse linux professional servers, and are quite happy with it. No "hobbyists" they!
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PPC? (Score:5, Interesting)
Can never keep up... (Score:4, Funny)
very pretty (Score:5, Interesting)
I hope XeN on x86_64 works better than on the RC (Score:3, Interesting)
Hopefully the release will be more effective. As for me, I'm playing with the 10.1 alpha, which I hear is what will eventually become SLES10.
10.0 is about when you rethink your naming scheme (Score:5, Funny)
Evolutionary or revolutionary? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Evolutionary or revolutionary? (Score:4, Insightful)
gcc-4.x is a big, big step. If I were a distro, I'd make a major version bump just for gcc's major version bump if for no other reason. You want your clients to be very aware of all the potential fallout from the gcc upgrade, especially this early.
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_THE_ DISTRIBUTION (Score:4, Interesting)
And it seems that also the doing well on both the corporate (Novell Desktop, SuSE entreprise) and the freesoftware side with this glorious new release.
i really whish OpenSuse the best, yet im not installing right now since 9.3 still does all i need and i have a lack of spare time already. but i will be soon!
if you are installing make shure to check out:
http://www.suseforums.net/ [suseforums.net] -- all things suse inlcuding community support, and
http://packman.links2linux.org/ [links2linux.org] -- the missing (some times not fully legal) mulitmedia packages.
g'luck,
Cies Breijs.
Xen 3.0 (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Xen 3.0 (Score:4, Interesting)
http://www.opensuse.org/Xen3_Status_and_Updates [opensuse.org]
we can see that they have package a far from ready "xen 3.0" with their supposedly stable release of their distribution. maybe it really IS a more-or-less stable branch of the "still in development" xen cvs tree, but the xen developers don't see it fit yet to be released, so why should novell/suse?
i mean, maybe some of these "limitations" are really non-features/problems in the final xen3 (when it comes out), but this seriously doesn't sound all that great:
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A bit off-topic, but... (Score:5, Funny)
...frankly, with a name like that, I wouldn't be able to write much of anything.
No disrespect to O0o0Oblubb!O0o0O... (Score:5, Funny)
I love my Suse (Score:4, Interesting)
I'm a whatever tool works use it kinda guy and the same applys for distros. It's good to see all linux distros being updated and offering newer and better linux experiences. It's a shame Microsoft already took the slogin "Where do you want to go today?" because thats what each new version of Suse makes me think.
OSS version? (Score:4, Interesting)
Did anyone else notice other OSS software in the list that SuSE left out of the OSS version claiming that it is NOT OSS when in fact it is?
And OpenXChange (Score:5, Informative)
Many of them, I think, are missing because of their dependency on (non-open-source) Java, which is not included. (In other words, Eclipse itself is OSS, but since it relies of non-OSS Java, they leave it out too.)
I have no idea about the bitstream vera fonts, though - that makes no sense to me at all, since I was sure they were distributed as open source...
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Torrent mirror (Score:4, Informative)
By the way, I have tried the 10.0 RC1 and it was really great. The only thing not working is my P910i sync, but I'll work on that.
Re:This is a quality distro (Score:4, Informative)
As for Novell 'shouting out' about OpenSuSE, please keep in mind that Novell is a corporate entity doing business with other corporate entities and is much more likely to tout the products that it sells, thus generating revenue which can then support community projects like OpenSuSE. OpenSuSE is not a make or break for Novel, it is more a gesture towards the community and a thumb in the eye of RedHat/Fedora. I am more impressed with Novel's decision to continue offering a supported consumer version of SuSE rather than abandoning the consumer market like RedHat.
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