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KDE 3.4 Released 454

Posted by timothy from the 'gradulations dept.
andy753421 links to today's announcement of the official release of KDE 3.4, and writes "Several KDE 3.4 based distributions such as ArkLinux and Kubuntu are soon to follow. Features in the release include built in Text to Speech, a revamped trash system, enhanced PDF support and PC to PC synchronization, as well as a new theme. KDE 3.4 weights in at 6,500+ bug fixes, 1,700+ enhancements, and a grand total of 80,000+ contributions." Reader gotr00t adds a link to the KDE download mirror page . Update: 03/16 20:58 GMT by T : mrevell points out an interview with KDE hacker Aaron Seigo in the latest LugRadio, in which Seigo "dispels various myths about KDE and talks about the desktop environment's future."
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  • One more stat (Score:5, Funny)

    by suso ( 153703 ) * on Wednesday March 16, 2005 @03:31PM (#11957210) Journal
    KDE 3.4 weights in at 6,500+ bug fixes, 1,700+ enhancements, and a grand total of 80,000+ contributions.

    Plus the 1000+ posts that are going to come in this slashdot article from kde vs. gnome folks.

  • Yes, but... (Score:5, Funny)

    by Infinityis ( 807294 ) on Wednesday March 16, 2005 @03:33PM (#11957232) Homepage
    Does it support a 1-button mouse?
  • and i JUST finished recompiling it.

    crap.

  • Don't forget Mepis... (Score:5, Informative)

    by DavonZ ( 13344 ) on Wednesday March 16, 2005 @03:33PM (#11957237) Homepage
    Let's not forget Mepis. Another KDE based distro as well and getting much press as of late.

    http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=me pi s

  • Obligatory cliches... (Score:2, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward
    1) Kongratulations!
    2) All your GUI are belong to KDE!
    3) I, for one, welcome our new K-based overlords!
    4) In Soviet Russia, KDE releases YOU!

    That ought to cover the major ones. Carry on with the inevitable GNOME/KDE/XFCE/X flamefest now.

  • Screenshots (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Grip3n ( 470031 ) on Wednesday March 16, 2005 @03:34PM (#11957240) Homepage
    Everyone loves pretty pictures!

    http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?re lease=265&slide=1 [osdir.com]

  • Kubuntu??? (Score:4, Funny)

    by m50d ( 797211 ) on Wednesday March 16, 2005 @03:34PM (#11957244) Homepage Journal
    I know linux naming conventions are pretty bad, but really, this takes the biscuit.
    • yeah? what's up with all the K stuff? Did Ed Boon and John Tobias invent KDE or something? lol...

    • Re:Kubuntu??? (Score:3, Informative)

      by Eberlin ( 570874 )
      Well, it's based on Ubuntu Linux...Ubuntu means something like "Humanity to others" (the ubuntu.com page will explain this much better than I can) The distro is GNOME based...so the natural thing to do is to slap a K in front of it and it's now KDE-based! Thus Kubuntu. :)

      I've got an Ubuntu installation, btw, and it's pretty cool. Hardware detection was great, runs fairly well on my old 400MHZ PII, and the whole synaptic thing makes for very easy updating. I may eventually try the Kubuntu as I'm looking
    • Gesundheit!

    • Re:Kubuntu??? (Score:3, Informative)

      by KarmaMB84 ( 743001 )
      I think it's even worse when you end up replacing C with K throughout the entire environment. How am I supposed to take it seriously when it seems to be written by a script kiddy? Oh wait...

  • Nice (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 16, 2005 @03:35PM (#11957263)
    In three months, we'll have a story about how it runs on gentoo.

    • Re:Nice (Score:5, Funny)

      by iminplaya ( 723125 ) on Wednesday March 16, 2005 @04:01PM (#11957618) Journal
      In about three hours we'll have a story about KDE 3.4 being released.

    • Re:Nice (Score:2, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward
      I could have told you yesterday after I finished emerging 3.4 what it what it was like. 99% like the rc1, stable as ever, and very fast and light on memory usage. It just sucks to have a distro and desktop manager that just works and is always the latest and greatest.

  • Highlights URL (Score:5, Informative)

    by mgkimsal2 ( 200677 ) on Wednesday March 16, 2005 @03:35PM (#11957270) Homepage
    http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-3.4.php [kde.org]

    Highlights at a glance

    * Text-to-speech system with support built into Konqueror, Kate, KPDF and the standalone application KSayIt
    * Support for text to speech synthesis is integrated with the desktop
    * Completely redesigned, more flexible trash system
    * Kicker with improved look and feel
    * KPDF now enables you to select, copy & paste text and images from PDFs, along with many other improvements
    * Kontact supports now various groupware servers, including eGroupware, GroupWise, Kolab, OpenGroupware.org and SLOX
    * Kopete supports Novell Groupwise and Lotus Sametime and gets integrated into Kontact
    * DBUS/HAL support allows to keep dynamic device icons in media:/ and on the desktop in sync with the state of all devices
    * KHTML has improved standard support and now close to full support for CSS 2.1 and the CSS 3 Selectors module
    * Better synchronization between 2 PCs
    * A new high contrast style and a complete monochrome icon set
    * An icon effect to paint all icons in two chosen colors, converting third party application icons into high contrast monochrome icons
    * Akregator allows you to read news from your favourite RSS-enabled websites in one application
    * Juk has now an album cover management via Google Image Search
    * KMail now stores passwords securely with KWallet
    * SVG files can now be used as wallpapers
    * KHTML plug-ins are now configurable, so the user can selectively disable ones that are not used. This does not include Netscape-style plug-ins. Netscape plug-in in CPU usage can be manually lowered, and plug-ins are more stable.
    * more than 6,500 bugs have been fixed
    * more than 1,700 wishes have been fullfilled
    * more than 80,000 contributions with several million lines of code and documentation added or changed

    • * more than 1,700 wishes have been fullfilled

      (glances around room)

      Shucks...still no Red Ryder BB gun. Maybe with the next release. Guess, I'll just keep play with my decoder ring and drink some Ovaltine.
    • Text-to-speech system

      A new high contrast style and a complete monochrome icon set

      I'll be damned - it is AmigaOS come back from the dead!


    • Does Konqueror still have those horrible menus that expand horizontally rather than scroll vertically like they should?

  • BSD? Huh? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by DarkHelmet ( 120004 ) * <mark@se v e nthcycle.net> on Wednesday March 16, 2005 @03:36PM (#11957276) Homepage
    BSD: KDE 3.4 Released

    Call me ignorant, but what does KDE have to do with BSD?

    • Nevermind. Just got changed to Linux:KDE 3.4 released.

      Damn Slashdot Editors... and stuff. :)

    • It's the most popular desktop environment for BSD? It lets KDE and GNOME stories be put in separate sections so we don't get quite as many flamewars?

    • Re:BSD? Huh? (Score:5, Interesting)

      by timothy ( 36799 ) on Wednesday March 16, 2005 @03:46PM (#11957428) Journal
      Call me ignorant, but what does KDE have to do with BSD?

      Mr. Helmet:

      Well, KDE has about as much to do with BSD as it does with Linux :) Popular desktop on both.

      My intent was to make it basically in the Linux section (since many more KDE users are using Linux -- I assert, without numbers, just observation, and I could be wrong, and a moose once bit my sister and and and), cross-listed in the BSD section.

      A peculiarity of the Slashdot backend means I picked the wrong order / weighting for KDE vs. Linux; I updated the story to fix this. No slight is meant toward Linux users, BSD users, Gnome users, those who enjoy boiled eggs with dill of a winter evening ...

      timothy

  • National Weather Service Alert (Score:5, Funny)

    by SeanTobin ( 138474 ) * <byrdhuntr@hotma[ ]com ['il.' in gap]> on Wednesday March 16, 2005 @03:41PM (#11957358)
    The National Weather Service has issued an alert for the entirety of the United States. An unusual buildup of heat is expected over the next few days related to a sudden and massive increase in processor usage of select personal computers across the country.

    This alert is based off of previous temperature surges related to the release of the 'KDE' software package to users of the 'Gentoo' operating system. As another release of this package has just occurred, the National Weather Service is issuing this alert so relief organizations can be prepared. Special attention is to be paid to the south-western united states due to unseasonably high temperatures, and high concentrations of personal computer equipment.

    An additional National Weather Service extreme temperature WARNING has been issued for the Silicon Valley region.

  • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 )
    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  • Microsoft's Spin (Score:5, Funny)

    by Jherek Carnelian ( 831679 ) on Wednesday March 16, 2005 @03:51PM (#11957492)
    KDE 3.4 weighs in at 6,500+ bug fixes,

    Today, EDS released a report on the quality of open source software.
    Citing over 6,000 known bugs in KDE 3.3 versus zero known bugs in Microsoft Windows, Senior EDS Industry Analyst Joe Isuzu said, "There is no question that open source software is of very poor quality and completely unreliable, the evidence is very clear for anyone to see. Microsoft Windows is head and shoulders above the free alternatives, downhill in a hurricane."

  • Yeah but (Score:2, Funny)

    by rgf71 ( 448062 )
    Does it run on Windows? :)

  • Trash (Score:3, Funny)

    by GerbilSoft ( 761537 ) on Wednesday March 16, 2005 @03:57PM (#11957566)
    a revamped trash system

    Yes, now the Trash can has a Windows logo on it.

  • Clippy Cometh...... (Score:4, Funny)

    by BRock97 ( 17460 ) on Wednesday March 16, 2005 @03:57PM (#11957567) Homepage
    "include built in Text to Speech"

    Exxccccelent. Soon, the final pieces for KDE Klippy will be complete and we will rule the KHelpCenter together! Just imagine it:


    I see you are trying to compile the latest Linux kernel. Would you like help with:
    • Configuring devices?
    • Configuring filesystems?
    • Reinstalling Windows XP?

    BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Good news (Score:4, Interesting)

    by realmolo ( 574068 ) on Wednesday March 16, 2005 @04:03PM (#11957637)
    I have to say, KDE is starting to get really good. And they seem to be cranking out improvements faster than they did in past years.

    A couple more versions, and they'll probably have caught up to/surpassed what you get with a Mac or XP system. GUI-wise, anyway. Underneath it's already better.

    The only complaint I really have about Linux on the desktop these days is the confusing layout of the filesystem. Which isn't KDE's fault. I hate having programs located in 5 different directories, with their configuration files in yet ANOTHER directory. I'm used to it, and it makes sense in a way. But I'd like to see all non-OS exectuables in their own folder under one "Program Files" folder, along with their configuration files. All the "system" files could go under a "System" folder.

    But that'll never happen. It would break EVERYTHING.

    • Re:Good news (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Hard_Code ( 49548 ) on Wednesday March 16, 2005 @04:12PM (#11957736)
      "I'm used to it, and it makes sense in a way."

      No, it doesn't make sense.

      I am not clueless or Myths and misconceptions about the design of GoboLinux [gobolinux.org]
    • XP has
      a) programs under "Program Files"
      b) libraries under "c:\windows32\system32"
      c) config files under "Program Files" or "c:\windows32"

      Windows XP can get very, very messy, too.

      What makes Linux better is often they store config files as .application.config in your personal directory, meaning each user usually has their own configs for user-accessible programs. It's less "efficient" due to more clutter but more "efficient" due to increased customizability and less risk of one person screwing up the setting

    • Re:Good news (Score:4, Informative)

      by flu1d ( 664635 ) on Wednesday March 16, 2005 @04:49PM (#11958252) Homepage
      A couple more versions, and they'll probably have caught up to/surpassed what you get with a Mac or XP system. GUI-wise, anyway. Underneath it's already better.

      Although the beauty of the WM/DE is completely subjective I have found kde-look.org [kde-look.org] to be a great source of beautifying KDE. If you look through there you can find people that have their desktop looking alot like or exactly like Mac OS X or Windows XP (if you're into that sort of thing).

    • Re:Good news (Score:4, Insightful)

      by naelurec ( 552384 ) on Wednesday March 16, 2005 @05:07PM (#11958464) Homepage
      I have to say, KDE is starting to get really good. And they seem to be cranking out improvements faster than they did in past years.

      I feel the QT/KDE teams has been particularly successful in developing a very extensible foundation. Everything fits nicely together which makes it very developer friendly. As a result, as it continues to gain popularity, development has accelerated.

      Confusing layout of the filesystem

      Thats one thing I particularly like about FreeBSD.. the OS and non-OS files are separated (/usr/bin vs /usr/local/bin and /etc vs /usr/local/etc) and there is a well defined file hierarchy (man hier) which the majority of the ports conform.

      Given the detailed description of what each folder is used for makes it clear as to where you would expect to find certain files. The "Program Files" and "System" folder approach falls short. Sure your able to separate the system files and program files, but beyond that, there is no organizational structure. Things like the path variable are effectively useless and included additional content (help files, clipart, sound files, templates, etc..) get buried and may not be discovered.

      Thats one of the big issues I have with Linux. This hierarchy is left up to the various distributions and many times, a strong, well planned layout is simply not there. I find I regularly spend too much additional time searching for files on Linux due to this (though still not nearly as long as digging through the registry and scouring various files on a Windows box) compared to knowing the hierarchy on FreeBSD and having a high level of confidence that a file i am looking for will be in one or two possible places.
  • KDE is already at 3.4, but Gnome is only at 2.1!

  • Now watch the bug reports roll in. (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Kili ( 265889 ) on Wednesday March 16, 2005 @05:12PM (#11958537)
    I'm on the kmail list and in the past 12 hours over 57 bugs have been filed against kmail alone...

    I think I'll do what I usually do... wait for x.1 to be released. If that comes out too quickly I wait for x.2.

    As always: Back up your data BEFORE trying new software.

    Happy compiling...
    • This just really shows that people need to start using KDE 3.4 *NOW*, even an hour a day of when you are just casually browsing the web to find bugs and send. By all means keep 3.3.2 as your main desktop but run 3.4 and help iron it out. If more people wait till 3.4.1 and 3.4.2 before switching then bugs will take even loinger to find. So don't fight it, accept and run both.

  • Bug hits... heh (Score:3, Funny)

    by mp3phish ( 747341 ) on Wednesday March 16, 2005 @06:46PM (#11959714)
    " KDE 3.4 weights in at 6,500+ bug fixes, 1,700+ enhancements, and a grand total of 80,000+ contributions."

    Well that to me means they fixed 6,500 bugs but added 1,700 new bugs, plus the potential for 80,000 more new bugs! Hope they aren't working backwards hehehe ;)

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