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SCO Shares Plunge, Canopy Management Change 400

bretberger writes "Shares in Utah's SCO Group went into a tailspin late Tuesday as news spread of both deepening losses and an apparent coup at the software company's corporate parent, the Canopy Group."
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SCO Shares Plunge, Canopy Management Change

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  • Good news (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @07:11PM (#11163388)
    Lots of good news before XMas. Best christmas present if you ask me. No software patents in EU, Microsoft fined and SCO stock down. What more can one ask?
  • News? (Score:5, Funny)

    by neoform ( 551705 ) <djneoform@gmail.com> on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @07:13PM (#11163392) Homepage
    Is this really news, who here actually thought SCO was gonna win? really though..
    • Re:News? (Score:5, Funny)

      by grub ( 11606 ) <slashdot@grub.net> on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @07:20PM (#11163461) Homepage Journal

      Yeah, exactly. And when Laura DiDio said: "The fate of SCO is one of the big question marks. New management at Canopy . . . may push [SCO] to try and settle." I was thinking "Settle for what? Not having IBM kick their collective asses into orbit around the sun?" I don't think they're in much of a position to try bargaining.
      • Re:News? (Score:5, Funny)

        by tdemark ( 512406 ) on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @07:32PM (#11163588) Homepage
        IBM Laywer: I'm thinking of a number. I'll write it down on a piece of paper.
        SCO Lawyer: OK

        The IBM lawyer grabs a pen a scribbles on a sheet of paper, folds the paper in half, and slides it across the table. The SCO lawyer reaches, picks up the paper, unfolds it, and sees this:

        ----------------
        | |
        | _ |
        | / \ |
        | / \ |
        | | | |
        | | | |
        | \ / |
        | \_/ |
        | |
        |______________|

        IBM Laywer: Do we have an agreement?

        - Tony
        • Re:News? (Score:5, Funny)

          by Otter ( 3800 ) on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @07:44PM (#11163707) Journal
          Nice ASCII illustration but you forgot the punchline [snpp.com]:

          Burns: I'm going to write a figure on this piece of paper. It's not quite as large as the last one, but I think you'll find it fair. [draws a giant zero]

          Hutz: I think we should take it.

        • Re:News? (Score:4, Funny)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @07:57PM (#11163799)
          SCO Lawyer #1: Give me a moment to discuss this with my associate.

          SCO Lawyer #1: (aside to SCO Lawyer #2): dude he totally drew a vagina. We're gonna get PUSSY!

          SCO Lawyer #2: (to #1): I know it! It's 100% grade A putang for us! Daryl is gonna be STOKED! I'm gonna step out and call him now. (steps out) Dude! Pop open a foamer and sit down, Christmas is coming early this year.......

          #1 (to IBM Lawyer, stifling laughter and adjusting pants): All right, we've considered your offer and are prepared to accept it. Do we, uh, accept it here or somewhere else?

          IBM Lawyer: What the fuck are you talking about?
      • They'll probably never settle, but according to their shareholder statement [sco.com] on November 4th they placed a $31 million dollar cap on their legal fees. That means there is an end in sight, either through settlement (or more likely another summary judgement against them.) It also means the end might come really quickly -- just ask IBM how long it takes a pack of rabid IP lawyers to devour $31 million :-)

        I suppose $31 million dollars just doesn't go as far as it used to ...

        • Re:News? (Score:5, Informative)

          by bckrispi ( 725257 ) on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @07:54PM (#11163775)
          Reading the article, It looks like the "cap" just means that $31 mil will be the most Boies & co. can charge when this fiasco is finished. This was in exchange for more lucrative terms should SCO win a settlement/be bought out. It doesn't mean "as soon as we spend $31 million, we're dropping the suit".
          • Re:News? (Score:3, Interesting)

            by ThogScully ( 589935 )
            Yes, but I'm sure Boies & Co is well aware it's a losing battle. They'll fight it as long as they can make money doing it and I'm sure they're not interested in sticking it out on the one in a trillion shot that SCO exists for a reason.
            -N
      • Re:News? (Score:5, Insightful)

        by SoSueMe ( 263478 ) on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @07:54PM (#11163784)
        Is this not the same Laura DiDio who has been so reviled by Slashdot in the past as being less than tech-savvy and a mouth-piece for corporations?

        Each of these claims have had some merit as well as critisism of the Yankee Group reports.

        Are they another firm that waits until the writing on the wall is written in neon and suddenly pipe up with a resounding "Me too!"

    • Check out the Didiot's comments:

      "New management at Canopy . . . may push [SCO] to try and settle."

      Honestly, I don't think it matters how hard SCO get's pushed - if IBM doesn't wanna, then it ain't gonna happen... and IBM knows they're gonna win.

      I just picture it as Peewee Herman in the ring with Mike Tyson - near the end of the 12th round, Tyson is untouched, and Peewee is a bleeding smudge on the canvas as his manager thinks "Hmm, maybe we should ask Tyson if he wants to call it a draw."
    • I'm Shocked, SHOCKED! Well not that shocked.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @07:14PM (#11163400)
    Great time to buy! Remember kids, buy low, sell high!
  • by Pacifix ( 465793 ) <zorp&zorpy,com> on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @07:14PM (#11163408)
    Isn't that name kinda ominous? A canopy blocks out the sun, gets everybody under one thing and cuts you off from the primal forces. Perhaps something more honest, like maybe COBRA?
  • by terraformer ( 617565 ) <tpb@pervici.com> on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @07:15PM (#11163412) Journal
    ...is if the parent co, Canopy Group, and all of the corporate criminal scumbags in charge over there lose their shirts and their golden parachutes mid fall. Otherwise, it will be them who are laughing all the way to the bank, despite the validity of the linux community's claims of fraud. This current administration won't go after them. Given what they have been doing lately to fuckups, they would probably give Darl an award...
    • by sl3xd ( 111641 ) * on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @07:48PM (#11163737) Journal
      This current administration won't go after them. Given what they have been doing lately to fuckups, they would probably give Darl an award...

      You seem to be under the delusion that some other administration would go after them. White collar crime is nothing new, as is the tacit guarantee that white collar criminals are virtually unpunished (with a few token ones like Martha Stewart and a couple of Enron officers). The fact is that it's nearly always the extremely wealthy, ivy-league educated that even compete for the presidency. And one thing can be said of the wealthy: They have a great deal more sympathy for the problems of their fellow upper crust than they do for the problems of any other economic strata. Democrat, Republican, whatever... The rich have the belief that they pay the taxes, so they should get the police -- not the areas that actually have crime. They pay the taxes, so the laws should benefit their lifestyles, not the mid and lower class.

      And never forget that Kerry still has even more money than Bush.

      Nor can I think of any president in the last half-century that did much to prosecute white-collar crime.

      And before that, there was the great depression, where everybody was poor anyway...

      Hmm... I've got it! We need another Theodore Roosevelt. A guy that spent his presidency breaking up monopolies and fighting for the working class.
      He's dead, though. And I doubt he'd win a modern election.
      • by dillon_rinker ( 17944 ) on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @08:11PM (#11163894) Homepage
        And I doubt he'd win a modern election.

        Yup. I was looking at the only known picture of TR and FDR last night and said wistfully to my wife "Why can't we have someone like that be president again?" The answer, of course, is television.

        WRT white collar crime - no one walks the streets at night worried that a white collar criminal might kill them pointlessly while looting their pension fund.
  • by Just Some Guy ( 3352 ) <kirk+slashdot@strauser.com> on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @07:15PM (#11163413) Homepage Journal
    <nelson>
    AH-HAH
    </nelson>

    Seriously, SCO should be in the OED under "schadenfreude". I love seeing this stuff!

    • Lisa: Dad, do you know what Schadenfreude is?
      Homer: No, I do not know what shaden-frawde is.
      [sarcasm] Please tell me, because I'm dying to know.
      Lisa: It's a German term for `shameful joy', taking pleasure in the suffering
      of others.
      Homer: Oh, come on Lisa. I'm just glad to see him fall flat on his butt!
      [getting mad]
      He's usually all happy and comfortable, and surrounded by loved ones,
      and it makes me feel... What's the opposite of that shameful joy
      thing of yours?
      Lisa: [nastily] Sour grapes.
      Ho
  • by maddu ( 522722 ) on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @07:15PM (#11163414)
    Who wants to bet that before long Microsoft will march in as White Knight and have proxy control over SCO. Hell, it already controls it indirectly!
    • by Samari711 ( 521187 ) on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @07:22PM (#11163479)
      Why would MS touch it with a 10-foot poll? They got enough negative press for orchestrating the BayStar deal, there's no way in hell they want anything to do with SCO at this point. What's probably going to happen is Canopy will carve out any useful IP and resources from SCO and form yet another company while it leaves SCO as a litigation company. then another Canopy company will buy out SCO, initiating the new change of control procedure which gives Darl & co. a set of nice golden parachutes and they walk away from the mess with all the investor's cash.

      What I want to know is how illegal this whole racket was...

    • by bill_mcgonigle ( 4333 ) * on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @08:49PM (#11164172) Homepage Journal
      Novell will be the one to come in and snatch up SCOX.

      Novell is making Linux the centerpiece of its technology strategy, so it has something to loose.

      Ending this thing once and for all would endear the Linux community to Novell, so it has something to gain.

      It also has $475M [zdnet.com] earmarked for acquisitions.

      Novell has a history with SCO/Canopy. Ray Noorda was the chairman at Novell before he started Caldera. Darcy Mott was Novell's Treasurer, and R. Duff Thompson was Senior Vice President of Corporate Development. Even Darl McBride came through Novell.

      SCOX [yahoo.com] has a $79M market cap. For this small portion of their acquisition warchest, all this goes away and they get real linux street cred. Their marketing department should be lobbying hardest for this one.

      When they're done with that they'll buy UNIX(TM) from The Open Group and geeks will write songs about them.

      Only if they want to crush Redhat, that is.
      • by RickBlaine ( 842883 ) on Thursday December 23, 2004 @12:07AM (#11165399)
        There is absolutely zero upside for Novell in buying SCOX. And absolutely zero downside for not buying SCOX. SCOX is shooting blanks (header files????) on the legal front. And Novell already has linux street cred for 1. buying SuSE, 2. Sending a "STFU" letter to SCOX re the IBM suit and 3. pretty much shutting SCOX down in the "slander of title" suit.

        You don't get street cred for rewarding extortion. Look at where SCOX was before they pulled this BS. About a buck [yahoo.com] a share. And SCOX has diluted shareholder value (in other words, printed and sold more stock) since then. Let's see: option 1. Pay more than 4x the original value of the company for an extortion threat or 2. let SCOX die a slow, painful and public death for being idiots. Anyone thinking of getting good PR by preventing this company from publicly bleeding to death from its self inflicted gut-shot is stupid. Paying off extortionists is *always* bad PR.

        -Blaine

      • Actually acquiring SCO would be crazy. It has so many liabilities that the buyer would have to take on.

        SCO probably still has some assets, and it's possible that Novell might be interested in some of them. But if so, it would better off buying them from SCO's creditors in bankruptcy court.
      • Scox isn't only suing, scox is being sued *big time* by IBM, and by redhat. If you buy scox, you buy those lawsuits against scox.

        Scox has absolutely nothing of any value. No IP, no worthwhile products, nothing. According to scox, by the end of January scox will have $7MM in cash - less than $0.50/share.

        Scox is nothing but a penny-stock scam. The idea of a legitimate company buying scox is absurd.
  • by schon ( 31600 ) on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @07:16PM (#11163425)
    ... Colonel Mustard, in the boardroom, with a letter opener.
  • "Plunged?" (Score:3, Insightful)

    by pclminion ( 145572 ) on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @07:17PM (#11163429)
    I'd hardly call a drop of 7.5% a "plunge." Stock prices always react this way when bad news is accounced, and they usually come back up again. I've made quite a bit of (virtual) money playing this game.

    I've seen companies take a 35% hit based on bad news and return to previous prices in less than a week. Considering the apparent magnitude of the announcement and the ensuing PIDDLY 7.5% drop I'm going to wager on the stock price returning to its recent levels.

    I'm placing a market open order for (virtual) shares of SCOX right now.

    (This is not financial advice, I'd barely even consider it virtual financial advice.)

    • Re:"Plunged?" (Score:3, Informative)

      by wookyhoo ( 700289 )
      SCOX isn't like a normal company though. Having followed their stock for well over year, it tends to go *up* on bad news, so thinking of it like other stocks doesn't really work.

      Of course, it may well go back up again, even though it really *shouldn't*.

      But, who knows. :)
    • Re:"Plunged?" (Score:5, Informative)

      by Megane ( 129182 ) on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @07:58PM (#11163810)
      I'd hardly call a drop of 7.5% a "plunge."

      Especially when the stock was 25% lower less than two months ago.

      I do have to thank SCOX for one thing, though. They got one of the Groklaw readers to pester UCal for a copy of the secret AT&T/BSD agreement under a Freedom of Information request. As it turns out, there wasn't any thing scary in there after all.

  • WHY?? (Score:5, Funny)

    by burbankmarc ( 838977 ) on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @07:17PM (#11163432)
    Now how are people going to get their license for Linux?!
  • Settling? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by DeathFlame ( 839265 ) on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @07:18PM (#11163435)
    "The fate of SCO is one of the big question marks. New management at Canopy . . . may push [SCO] to try and settle."

    Settle? Does anyone see IBM settling? Why would they when they will win.

    • Re:Settling? (Score:2, Interesting)

      by jonadab ( 583620 )
      > Settle? Does anyone see IBM settling?

      Depends how much SCO is willing to offer. Certainly, IBM isn't going to
      *give* SCO anything in a settlement, if that's what you mean, but they might
      be persuaded to call off their lawyers and forget the whole thing ever
      happened if SCO offers them enough. (I'm not sure what SCO has to offer,
      though. All their remaining material assets perhaps...)
  • SCO Insider Trades (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @07:18PM (#11163439)
    Here it is- the regular SCOX insider trades report! Sell, sell, sell- even while it was going up.

    12/07/04 BAYSTAR CAPITAL II L P Beneficial Owner of more than 10% of a Class of Security 10,000 Open Market Sale proceeds of $45,870.00

    12/07/04 BAYSTAR CAPITAL II L P Beneficial Owner of more than 10% of a Class of Security 6,100 Open Market Sale proceeds of $28,745.00

    12/01/04 BAYSTAR CAPITAL II L P Beneficial Owner of more than 10% of a Class of Security 15,000 Open Market Sale proceeds of $61,767.00

    11/30/04 BAYSTAR CAPITAL II L P Beneficial Owner of more than 10% of a Class of Security 70,500 Open Market Sale proceeds of $273,550.00

    11/24/04 BAYSTAR CAPITAL II L P Beneficial Owner of more than 10% of a Class of Security 60,000 Open Market Sale proceeds of $216,181.50

    11/22/04 BAYSTAR CAPITAL II L P Beneficial Owner of more than 10% of a Class of Security 37,500 Open Market Sale proceeds of $131,250.00

    11/19/04 BAYSTAR CAPITAL II L P Beneficial Owner of more than 10% of a Class of Security 10,000 Open Market Sale proceeds of $35,000.00

    11/17/04 BAYSTAR CAPITAL II L P Beneficial Owner of more than 10% of a Class of Security 10,000 Open Market Sale proceeds of $35,465.00

    11/08/04 BAYSTAR CAPITAL II L P Beneficial Owner of more than 10% of a Class of Security 100,000 Open Market Sale proceeds of $372,615.00

    11/05/04 BAYSTAR CAPITAL II L P Beneficial Owner of more than 10% of a Class of Security 22,000 Open Market Sale proceeds of $80,900.00

  • Hope (Score:5, Insightful)

    by FiReaNGeL ( 312636 ) <fireang3l.hotmail@com> on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @07:19PM (#11163443) Homepage
    I hope for only one thing :

    That their (inevitable) demise receive AT LEAST AS MUCH publicity on public news channels / papers that their foolish lawsuits received. To inform the population that it was FUD. Or else they'll have (kinda) suceeded in inspiring a doubt in the minds of many concerning Linux legitimacy. No one on slashdot, obviously, but the common man who heard on news that SCO was suing IBM on UNIX/Linux for code thievery... maybe.
  • by pjwalen ( 546460 ) <pjwalen.pezdispenser@net> on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @07:19PM (#11163444) Homepage
    I was certain the, honorable and the trusted SCO Software would come out ahead of those socialist pirates known as Linux users. Who's with me?
  • A quick look at their three-day graph shows they were below 3 at one point. What happened? We need to live the glory days...put them in the penny-stock category!

    Jaime Escalante says: "You can DO it!"

    Joe
    • sorry...it's been a long day
    • These days, the 'penny' stock category starts at 5 dollars US. Below that point, certain kinds of trading, including short options, are no longer allowed, which is what really differentiates them from 'normal' stocks. I watch SCOX, and it surprised me to see a couple of days ago, they briefly rose above $5.00.
  • DiDio Doin it Again (Score:3, Interesting)

    by LithiumX ( 717017 ) on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @07:19PM (#11163450)
    So what, exactly, is the deal with Ms Didio? I could understand her possibly (giving her benefit of the doubt) originally siding with SCO as an analyst... but over time her constant support, constant praise, and general attempts at propaganda make it more than obvious she's got a heavy leash being held by someone over there.

    Does she expect to retain any value as an "independant analyst" in the post-SCO market? It's all too common for analysts to be paid to support a product or company, but they're usually a little less blatant about it. Who would value her opinion, knowing that her opinion is for sale?

    Though... I suspect (recently) that it's more Canopy holding her leash, than SCO, since she seems to choose Canopy over SCO when she has to (like in her recent comments - she still didn't say anything bad about them, but saved all her real praise for her theoretical overlords at Canopy).
    • by mcc ( 14761 )
      Does she expect to retain any value as an "independant analyst" in the post-SCO market?

      I imagine she expects a lucrative career doing similar PR work for other companies. I cannot imagine SCO is the only company out there for which this kind of service would not be greatly appreciated. Toxic sludge is good for you.

      Who would value her opinion, knowing that her opinion is for sale?

      People are at least in theory falling for the idea her relentless PR for the Canopy group is "independent" at the moment.
  • Sucker! (Score:5, Funny)

    by Darth McBride ( 749942 ) on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @07:20PM (#11163454)
    Attorney David Boies of New York agreed to cap the overall cost of SCO's lawsuits to $31 million in return for a bigger piece - 33 percent, instead of 20 percent - of any settlements.

    Dear David,

    We ran out of money, but we will give you an even bigger slice of nothing.

    Love,
    Darl
  • .. is $4.11 in after hours trading.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=scox [yahoo.com]
  • 5 year trend (Score:4, Informative)

    by Skiron ( 735617 ) on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @07:24PM (#11163494)
    As seen here:

    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=SCOX&t=5y [yahoo.com]

    SCO started the attack on Linux first (early 2003) when their stock was at the lowest point, and it paid off a bit - until now - and they are back where they started, except now everybody hates them :)
  • by WormholeFiend ( 674934 ) on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @07:24PM (#11163503)
    I'm playing the world's smallest violin for SCO.
  • by pyrrho ( 167252 ) on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @07:25PM (#11163504) Journal
    I don't have time to learn a new villian.
  • What? (Score:2, Informative)

    by SassyDave ( 557868 )

    Shares in Utah's SCO Group went into a tailspin late Tuesday.

    So what? The stock is higher now [yahoo.com] than it was when they started all this litigation in 2003.

  • Rumor Has it... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by marcushnk ( 90744 ) <senectus@nOSPam.gmail.com> on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @07:26PM (#11163523) Journal

    That Mustard is a bit of a hatchet man. (walks into a sinking ship and throws so many people overboard that its starts floating.. then points that barely floating ship back in a direction that will assure the safety of whomever is left)
    Couple that with the CFO's leaving and the REALLY piss poor financials that were released yesterday.. I reckon we're about to see the end of this whole saga.
    • No, no, he's not a hatchet man. As I recall, he prefers a lead pipe... In the conservatory...

      Or was it a rope in the study? Damn, I'll have to check my cards...

  • SLT going down, text (Score:3, Informative)

    by LittleLebowskiUrbanA ( 619114 ) on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @07:29PM (#11163556) Homepage Journal
    Shares in Utah's SCO Group went into a tailspin late Tuesday as news spread of both deepening losses and an apparent coup at the software company's corporate parent, the Canopy Group.
    SCO shares closed at $4.51 in regular trading on the Nasdaq Stock Market, down 33 cents, or 7 percent. Then came SCO's dismal earnings reports for the fourth quarter and fiscal 2004; within minutes shares plunged another 46 cents, or 10 percent, in after-hours trading, to $4.05.
    SCO, embroiled in multibillion-dollar federal litigation against IBM and others over its purported rights to the Unix and Linux operating systems, more than quadrupled its fourth-quarter losses. For the quarter ending Oct. 31, SCO's loss sank to $6.5 million, or 37 cents a share; the company had lost $1.6 million, or 12 cents, in the same period last year.
    Investors already were absorbing news, leaked out in bits and pieces earlier Tuesday, about an apparent weekend coup that ousted Ralph Yarro, Canopy's longtime president, chairman and chief executive, along with Chief Financial Officer Darcy Mott.
    Secretaries at Canopy's Lindon headquarters confirmed that Yarro and Mott were "no longer with the company."
    Callers to Canopy were told the company's new CEO is William Mustard, believed most recently to have been a managing director at Smooth Engine, a New York-based consulting firm that provides both interim and permanent executive replacements.
    Mott's replacement had not yet been named. Questions regarding the ousters were referred directly to Mustard. He did not return several calls seeking comment.
    Messages left at the home telephone numbers of Yarro and Mott - both former proteges of former Novell chief and networking tech guru Ray Noorda - also went unanswered; so did questions about how their departure from Canopy might affect SCO and its now 21-month-old battle with IBM, the world's largest computer company.
    Yankee Group analyst Laura DiDio called the ousters "a changing of the guard at Canopy. It is quite literally out with the old and in with the new.
    "With the departure[s] . . . go the last vestiges of the Ray Noorda era. Yankee Group expects that other, equally significant changes will be in the offing for 2005," she said. "The fate of SCO is one of the big question marks. New management at Canopy . . . may push [SCO] to try and settle."

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    Of more immediate concern to investors, though, were SCO's finances. In addition to growing losses, the company's quarterly revenue also tumbled more than 50 percent - $10.1 million compared with $24.3 million a year ago. The decrease was primarily due to a precipitous slide in the company's SCOsource revenue - a paltry $120,000 compared with more than $10.3 million for 2003's fourth quarter.
    For fiscal 2004, revenue was $42.8 million, down sharply from 2003's $79.25 million. Shareholders lost $16.2 million, or $1.07 per share this fiscal year, compared with $5.3 million, or 34 cents, the year before.
    The SCOsource division manages the company's Unix intellectual property, and oversees SCO's largely unsuccessful attempts to sell licenses to Linux users under implied threat of copyright infringement lawsuits.
    SCO CEO Darl McBride, anticipating victory in SCO's lawsuit against IBM, believes SCOSource revenue is destined to revive. The suit, awaiting rulings on motions for dismissal and evidentiary discovery, is not expected to come to trial until next fall.
    "We're in a challenging business environment," he said during an earnings teleconference. "[But] we believe there is value in our Unix licensing business and we offer our customers . . . value they need to be made aware of."
    McBride also pointed to a recent deal SCO made with its chief Linux litigator, attorney David Boies of New York. His law firm agreed to cap the overall cost of SCO's lawsuits to $31 million in return for a bigger piece - 33 percent, instead of 20 percent - of any settlements.
    McBride said that p
    • "New management at Canopy . . . may push [SCO] to try and settle."

      "settle"? Not a chance that can happen. Drop the case is really the only thing that could happen. Why would anyone pay them a dollar? (Unless the settlement, is "we'll drop the case if you agree not to sue US.")

      He's only sued people with enough money to defend themselves. I suspect he'll keep lawsuits open until SCO goes into bankruptcy, for fear that SCO will be countersued for legal fees.

  • Santa comes early to the naughty.
  • Down 10% is a plunge??? Considering they were below $3 In Nov, I'd say that they are still doing okay...
  • by Anonymous Coward
    Basically, this is a closely held thinly traded stock. Any delusions that free market rules prevail is a dream. This stock (according to the merry crew at Yahoo) is heavily painted.

    At close, the stock was around $4 which is down from recent values. Look at the volume though; nearly 400,000 shares. That's a lot for SCO. The daily average is a lot less. Finding a buyer for that much stock at that price seems like a major coup to me, not some kind of disaster.

    The following is a quote from an article by
  • The article quotes Yankee Group analyst Laura DiDio:

    New management at Canopy . . . may push [SCO] to try and settle.

    I doubt that Canopy even HAS enough money to offer to entice IBM to settle, let alone actually be willing to offer it.

    Or are they smoking crack, and dreaming that IBM will pay to settle?

    I'm still planning a trip to Lindon when the lawsuits are over to see the patch of scorched earth that will be left where The SCO Group's headquarters once stood.

    Those of you that haven't already re

  • I've got a perfect plan for a coup (er, I mean "reorganization")...

    Now, if all the members of the board would please line up against this brick wall. Its for a group photo, really....
  • Yankee Group analyst Laura DiDio called the ousters "a changing of the guard at Canopy. It is quite literally out with the old and in with the new.

    "With the departure[s] . . . go the last vestiges of the Ray Noorda era. Yankee Group expects that other, equally significant changes will be in the offing for 2005," she said. "The fate of SCO is one of the big question marks. New management at Canopy . . . may push [SCO] to try and settle."


    And how exactly are they going to settle? Seems to me that with IBM
  • Setting: The boss' office. The President and IT Director are meeting with the lead Sysadmin

    Clueless IT Director to Sysadmin: So, if SCO folds will we renew our Linux license directly with Microsoft next year?

    Long pause ...

    Sysadmin begins to shake uncontrollably, breaks his pencil, quits job, and opens a book store in the Bahamas.

  • by the eric conspiracy ( 20178 ) on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @07:39PM (#11163656)
    I, for one, welcome SCO's new overlords!.

  • Does /. routinely cover tech companies that are going down the drain nowadays or is this just because the company in question initialized a lawsuit that by all accounts is frivolous and will never effect in the industry in any meaningful way?
  • Damn (Score:3, Insightful)

    by BCW2 ( 168187 ) on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @07:51PM (#11163753) Journal
    SCO's going to self destruct before we get to see IBM pound them into dust.

    It's been obvious that things were headed this way for awhile, but I still wanted the judges ruling.
  • bogus report (Score:5, Insightful)

    by frovingslosh ( 582462 ) on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @07:58PM (#11163809)
    SCO was under $3 at the beginning of November. It's last trade today was at $4.17. Yea, stocks go up and down, but to call this a tailspin is a bit extreme. It's taken a couple of bigger drops in the last two months, but the rises have been even larger. Hey, I hate SCO too, but reporting a relatively small dip in the stock as a tailspin is an overstatement based only on bias against them.
  • by Embedded Geek ( 532893 ) on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @08:04PM (#11163845) Homepage
    I love numbers. You can look at them any way you want and make up nearly any story you want to go with them. While some posters are talking about "only a 7%" drop in SCO shares and say this is nothing, you can look at another number and become tingly with delight at a 99% drop in SCO's licensing revenues [theinquirer.net], from $10.3M 20034Q to $120,000 this 4Q (Forbes story with ads here [forbes.com]). This was the big contibuting factor in a total revenue drop of about 60% (and resulting stock drop).

    Naturally, the truth is somewhere in between. This is bad news for SCO's strategies. That does not mean McBride won't be able to convince his minders to hold the course and continue with litigation. Strictly speaking, at this moment, they're still convinced. Neverhteless, it's obviously a bumpy road ahead for them.

    So, don't throw a victory party yet, but I think we're all entitled to spend a few minutes smirking.

  • Classic Quotes (Score:5, Interesting)

    by dynamo ( 6127 ) on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @08:40PM (#11164116) Journal
    ""The fate of SCO is one of the big question marks. New management at Canopy . . . may push [SCO] to try and settle."

    This remark just made my day. Imagine SCO trying to settle, being pressured by it's parent company, sitting with IBM attourneys, trying to 'reach out' to IBM to make some sort of agreement. I figure they'll eventually both agree that SCO has wasted all of their time and money on something that is going to eventually cost it's upper management their careers, and hopefully their freedom (but I doubt they'll realize that quite yet.)

    and this:

    "We're in a challenging business environment," he said during an earnings teleconference. "[But] we believe there is value in our Unix licensing business and we offer our customers . . . value they need to be made aware of."

    It's straight out of The Godfather. Way to tell it, Darl!
  • by raider_red ( 156642 ) on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @11:04PM (#11165075) Journal
    Does anyone else notice a disturbing similarity in name to the Umbrella Corporation?
  • by Rogerborg ( 306625 ) on Thursday December 23, 2004 @07:41AM (#11166848) Homepage

    Bear in mind that the weasels at the top will loot the burning hulk and golden parachute to new jobs with their friends and relatives, while the actual working stiffs at SCO are the ones getting "reorganised" out of the door with nothing to show for their work, some of which will have been performed before SCO went Dark Side.

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