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Linux.com Relaunched Under New Management

Posted by timothy on Wed May 13, 2009 02:02 PM
from the things-change-almost-always dept.
mikesd81 writes "Linux.com has been relaunched under the direction of the Linux Foundation. The goal of the site is supposed to be a community hub that lets the Linux community participate and contribute their knowledge. An initial look as the site is today makes it look like a news site. Linux Foundation Executive Director Jim Zemlin insists that the plan wasn't for Linux.com to be a breaking news organization but rather as a resource for the Linux community as a whole."
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darthcamaro and several other readers have noted that the Linux Foundation has bought Linux.com from SourceForge Inc. (Slashdot's corporate parent). The Linux Foundation (employer of Linus Torvalds) will take over the editorial and community stewardship for the site; SourceForge will continue to supply advertising on it. "[Linux Foundation Executive Director Jim] Zemlin says the Linux Foundation wants to build a collaborative forum where Linux users can share ideas and get information on the Linux operating system. A beta of the site will be released in the next few months. ... Linux.com is being redesigned as a central source for Linux software, documentation and answers regardless of platforms, including server, desktop/netbook, mobile and embedded areas." What do you think should be on Linux.com?
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  • ...where's the Ubuntu logo? Just kidding hold your horses...
  • by eln (21727) on Wednesday May 13 2009, @02:18PM (#27942127) Homepage

    Look everyone, a tech news aggregator! What an original idea...this will be revolutionary. Can the year of Linux on the desktop be far behind now?

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      It was the year of the Linux desktop five years ago. It's just that 95% of the users are behind the trend.

    • by skeeto (1138903) on Wednesday May 13 2009, @02:41PM (#27942537) Homepage

      And it messes up your browser (Firefox in my case) too. Check this out:

      http://linux.com/distrocentral/download-linux [linux.com]

      Right now it continually refreshes the page while asking for authentication, spawning a new window each second. I managed to escape from it with some careful mouse wrangling.

      • by tsalmark (1265778) on Wednesday May 13 2009, @03:38PM (#27943479)
        Well that was fun, glad I'm not epileptic. From now on I'm reading the rest of the post before clicking on the link.
      • by AliasMarlowe (1042386) on Wednesday May 13 2009, @03:39PM (#27943491) Journal
        That page also screws up in Opera and Epiphany. It keeps generating a login popup. Bad, bad linux.com!
        • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

          Does it to me too....logins one after another unless you can click cancel fast enough to dismiss them. Using Firefox 3.0.1 with Ubuntu 8.04 netbook remix on Dell Mini 9. Guess my Mac would do the same since the website appears to be ahem, faulty.
        • by Anonymous Coward

          Bad linux.com? Yes, but more importantly: BAD Browser for letting websites create modal dialogs.

      • by jc42 (318812)

        Funny, I don't see it refreshing at all. I get a pop-down saying:

        Authentication Required

        A username and password are being requested by http://beta.linux.com./ [beta.linux.com] The site says: "Linux.com is under maintenance. Please check www.linux.com shortly"

        This has username and password input widgets, plus Cancel and OK buttons. It doesn't seem to have any way of setting up an account, so I tried a couple of dummy loging, hit OK -- and got back exactly the same pop-down windowlet. So I hit Cancel -- and got the same po

        • I used NoScript up until the recent events where it became malware and obscured its code. It can no longer be trusted. I'll look into using a fork when one comes along.
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by Darundal (891860)
      Wow! Almost like a Slashdot 2.0...oh, wait...
  • by mc1138 (718275) on Wednesday May 13 2009, @02:19PM (#27942139) Homepage
    I like the look, I like the layout, now lets just hope that it follows through as intended. If so, this could be a great resource for both experienced pros as well as new users.
      • They are already encouraging people to write tutorials, and of course they have the forums and the Facebook-esque social networking thing.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    What is it running on? Windows?

  • It's about time... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Stachybotris (936861) on Wednesday May 13 2009, @02:20PM (#27942177)
    I had just purged the RSS feed for their site from Firefox last night since I got sick of seeing nothing change since January 1st.

    I'm glad to see that they're back up an running, and even more so now that they're providing more than just news. Here's to hoping that the site flourishes and maintains what I've come to expect so far plus more.
  • They have a section called "DistributionCentral" that's supposed to give lists of popular, desktop, embedded, server, etc. distros and then descriptions of those. All the links want authentication credentials. Screw that. Publish your site or don't. Don't stick up a bunch of publicly available info on the public portion of your site and then set it to require authentication because you don't have the code or markup templates ready just yet.

  • For newbies? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by hkz (1266066) on Wednesday May 13 2009, @02:47PM (#27942637)

    When I first became interested in Linux around 2005 or so and wanted to find out more about it, one of the first sites I tried was linux.com. (Hey, why not, I learnt about distros a little while later.) What a mess it was. The new site is a lot better, but I still don't think it has the portal quality that a site with the standing of "linux.com" needs. Where is the elevator pitch about what Linux is, where is the explanation of the ways it's similar to Windows and the ways it's not? Instead we get press releases from the Linux Foundation. Think of the other 95% of the world when you're scaping linux.com, guys.

    • Re:For newbies? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by skeeto (1138903) on Wednesday May 13 2009, @03:29PM (#27943327) Homepage
      If you think that was bad, check out linux.org right now. It's probably one of the most worthless websites out there, yet it gets to sit at #1 in search results for "linux" because too many people foolishly link to it.
        • by XanC (644172)

          If we're talking about the kernel, kernel.org.

          If we're talking about a full system, debian.org.

          Done!

          • Re:For newbies? (Score:4, Insightful)

            by kimvette (919543) on Wednesday May 13 2009, @04:44PM (#27944543) Homepage

            kernel.org looks horrible though, and does not represent what a (complete) Linux system is capable site.

            kernel.org is designed by geeks, for geeks. What is needed is a central site which is designed by designers, with marketing types' input, for regular people. THAT and getting the "RTFM" and "it's open source, fix it yourself" folks out of positions where they respond to user questions on project mailing lists and messageboards.

    • Re:For newbies? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by elrous0 (869638) * on Wednesday May 13 2009, @03:50PM (#27943669)
      Sadly, and all-too-typical problem with OSS sites. An opening page full of bug fixes, version numbers, etc. and not a single paragraph explaining what the OSS app actually *IS* and *DOES*. Too many of these pages (and apps) are written by code monkeys who think they don't need to bring in actual writers or graphic designers.
      • Sadly, and all-too-typical problem with OSS sites.

        Try extracting anything useful from Sourceforge - and did I mention that you have to register before you can take a look around, poke the tires?

        • Try extracting anything useful from Sourceforge - and did I mention that you have to register before you can take a look around, poke the tires?

          What do you mean? This [sourceforge.net] is a link to Scribus project. The description and download link is right there. Screenshots just a click away. No registration required.

  • After seeing this (Score:5, Informative)

    by just_another_sean (919159) on Wednesday May 13 2009, @03:32PM (#27943363) Homepage Journal

    and having a soft spot in my heart for them since I discovered Linux in 1995 I still think linux.org [linux.org] and The LDP [tldp.org] are way better then this...

      • I'm totally serious and I love Linux or wouldn't be sitting here talking about it 13 years after I found the aforementioned sites.

        What's wrong with linux.org? You don't like red? There is no flash, no ani-crap of any kind. There are a few discreet ads to the
        side that actually offer products I may be interested in buying. (books ftw!)

        The page is neatly laid out to provide you links to news about Linux, documentation for Linux, applications for Linux, etc. Glancing
        at it for a quick minute shows a wealth of us

        • by adolf (21054)

          Oh, but they're both oh so very...1996! That's the problem! Yeah! They need more AJAX Web 2.0 Javascripted-to-death bullshit, or nobody will respect them. Haven't they ever heard of Ruby? On Rails? Sheesh. Why don't they just get with the program already? Why aren't there Flash games built into the advertisements, for fuck's sake? Everyone knows you need a Flash game built into your banner ads before the crowds will come.

          (This post is extremely tongue-in-cheek, since the first useful web page I eve

          • They certainly don't need any AJAX or JS in general, but linux.org in particular could look a little less like a Geocities page.

    • by drijen (919269)
      Fail.

      This site commits the sin of "click here to read the story -> "oh wait, click here again please, to be sent to the actual story".

      Further fail, for being flash driven, and having those ridiculous cnet buttons plastered everywhere. Even worse, the comments system looks like it has been ripped straight from some of those craptacular "PC for morons" sites.

      Way to take a great idea and garbage it.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      Since at least 1998 they have had that same ugly, ugly layout and worthless lists of Linux distros. It's like a crystallization of what was wrong with the OSS community in the 90's. Want to use Linux? No problem, here's a big list of distros that will be completely meaningless to you. Ubuntu is in there, but it's down at the bottom, way below Slackware and MkLinux, which (for all you know) are more popular and easier to use than it. This site was an epic failure in the 90's, and it still is, unfortunately.
  • WTF is it with web designers that insist on stealing my bandwith with their incessant flash crap. Maybe I'll just start linking to your !@#$%! crap with every spambot on the planet till your server melts!

    Hey! take that gleeful smile off your face.

    /fires up lynx/

  • Registered on Linux.com, never got an email confirmation, yet I can retrieve my username with the 'forgot username' form (confirmation that I didn't have a typo), but my account is locked out because it was never activated. Rock on, linux.com.