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Shuttleworth Announces Karmic Koala
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ScuttleMonkey
on Fri Feb 20, 2009 03:02 PM
from the make-the-bad-man-stop dept.
from the make-the-bad-man-stop dept.
An anonymous reader writes to mention that Mark Shuttleworth has announced the next release in the horribly alliterative Ubuntu family, "Karmic Koala." The new version hopes to include a newer, shinier, faster startup, better small screen support, a spruced-up desktop look (no more brown), and many minor tweaks and updates. "A newborn Koala spends about six months in the family before it heads off into the wild alone. Sounds about perfect for an Ubuntu release
plan! I'm looking forward to seeing many of you in Barcelona, and before
that, at a Jaunty release party. Till then, cheers."
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Cool (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Cool (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Cool (Score:5, Informative)
I've always been fascinated how the Debian (and derivatives) releases have functioned. Each branch is like a car in a merge ramp; as it reaches 'stable', it speeds up and aligns itself with the other cars on the road ready to be released on the information superhighway.
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Re:Cool (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Cool (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Cool (Score:5, Funny)
I'm lost with the guns, cars, and stones. Could someone make a software analogy?
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Re:Cool (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Cool (Score:4, Funny)
Also another exception: if it screws you somehow, it's not on intent.
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Re:Cool (Score:5, Insightful)
Debian unstable is like a Windows RTM, except it's more stable.
PS. Don't mod this funny like you did last time, it's fucking true.
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Re:Cool (Score:4, Funny)
I don't use Windows. Could someone phrase this for a Debian user?
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Really, is it that bad? (Score:5, Interesting)
Am I the only one who likes the brown color scheme?
I find that it's easy on the eyes without being outright drab, but maybe that's just me.
Re:Really, is it that bad? (Score:5, Interesting)
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Re:Really, is it that bad? (Score:5, Interesting)
I've got sick on blue from Windows and OS X, Ubuntu's theme was liberating when I first set eyes on in and until the Darkroom theme came along I never really felt the need to change it.
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And just like a koala (Score:5, Funny)
It only looks cute and cuddly. Actually try to cuddle a koala and it'll bite you, claw you, and shit on you.
Or so I've heard...
Re:And just like a koala (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:And just like a koala (Score:5, Insightful)
So a bit like some children then ?
Some? You are obviously not a parent.
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Damn (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Damn (Score:5, Funny)
Krusty Krab
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But then Plankton would keep trying to pirate it!
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Plundering Plankton?
Meanwhile Linux Continues To Be A Trainwreck (Score:3, Interesting)
It's 2009. Over twenty years since the original Macintosh was released. Twenty years since the fundamentals of UI element spacing, text rendering, text kerning, verticle and horizontal text alignment, colour usage...
And the latest Ubuntu, the 'gold standard' for Linux desktops, is a complete mess:
* Text kerning problems all over the place
* Alignment problems in almost every single text field or label
* Almost random colour choice for UI elements
* UI elements having no consistent alignment or spacing
* UI elem
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The text alignment and kerning problems are something I really can't understand. Every time I do my yearly 'let's give Linux a try again' it is depressing to see the same horrible font choices, text that is never properly aligned in text boxes, and kerning problems.
It's like trying to put out a newspaper or magazine that doesn't have any real professional page layout people working on it. It is so jarring to read that it really doesn't matter what the actual content is.
Re:Meanwhile Linux Continues To Be A Trainwreck (Score:5, Insightful)
Please, file bugs with specific examples. You are probably right: the people of that particular profession are not on the dev team and the devs that are working on Ubuntu probably don't even _know_ what they are doing wrong. Better yet, file it at Redhat or Novell, where the cashflow to hire the right people exists (Canonical won't do it).
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Re:Meanwhile Linux Continues To Be A Trainwreck (Score:4, Interesting)
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Re:Meanwhile Linux Continues To Be A Trainwreck (Score:5, Informative)
If you file it in Launchpad, then the devs will assign it to the proper component. Definitely include a screenshot. Is the problem only in websites? Link to the bug here and I'll triage it (I use Kubuntu, though, but I can install an Ubuntu virtual machine).
The Ubuntu bug tracker is great for iffy bugs because the competency level of Ubuntu users is assumed to be rather low. However, sometimes (and I hope that this won't be the case with this bug) the devs cry "opinion" and don't work on the bug. But the whole fonts thing is well enough known that they may appreciate the input from someone who does know a bit on the subject.
Thanks!
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Re:Meanwhile Linux Continues To Be A Trainwreck (Score:4, Informative)
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Re:Meanwhile Linux Continues To Be A Trainwreck (Score:4, Interesting)
That's why I mentioned Novell and Redhat as two places to file bugs will they will be solved, and not ignored. If you can cite specific examples, I will happily help get the bugs filed at the right places.
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This is mostly nonsense.
Some of these issues are real some of the time, but nearly all of your post just sounds like you're complaining that things aren't exactly the same as what you're used to.
The latest Ubuntu works beautifully for anyone who actually wants to get stuff done rather than complaining that the "open file" dialog doesn't automatically grow when you change your font size preference or whatever.
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Then stop spreading the same boring anti-Linux nonsense.
Not your call, not my call, not anyone's call. Programmers are free to work on what they're interested in doing. Distributions tend to pick sane defaults, and there's no need to complain about having other options.
Who cares? If you're really an expert and know better, turn the message o
WTF? (Score:5, Informative)
...Stupid package management with insane dependencies. ...
And you say this as a Mac user, using an OS that doesn't even have a unified package management system (And no, .pkg files don't count, since they aren't unified and there's no built-in update of uninstall mechanism)?
Your post should have been marked troll, flamebait or Macfanboi, and I say that as a Mac user myself who owns three Macs.
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It will definitely include... (Score:3, Funny)
...DropBear as the default SSH. Should have been called "Killer Koala."
"the horribly alliterative Ubuntu family" (Score:5, Funny)
Shouldn't that read "the appallingly alliterative Ubuntu family"?
Re:Another one! (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Another one! (Score:5, Funny)
The ratings were pretty high for Kinky Klingons, but seems like they were cast aside for being less exotic.
I have a tendency to make things up
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Re:Another one! (Score:4, Interesting)
I just wonder if the next will be Leaping Lizard.
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When they get to "P" it damn well better be "Platypus".
Re:Another one! (Score:5, Funny)
They tried, but it had a bad effect on reliability. The system would come and go, would come and go-oo-oo...
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Re:Another one! (Score:5, Funny)
The system would come and go, would come and go-oo-oo...
On behalf of the entire Slashdot community, I thank you for getting one of the worst songs ever written stuck in everyone's head.
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We are honoured to witness the birth of the "verbal rickroll".
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I hear that Koala's on the other hand are much less over-marketed
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Koala's whats?
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Re:Another one! (Score:5, Funny)
Can't believe the
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Re:Another one! (Score:5, Funny)
Ah, that explains the "no more brown" bit.
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Re:Cat got you karma-whoring-80-column ass? (Score:4, Interesting)
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I think you meant kloud komputing.
The problem with eucalyptus ... (Score:5, Interesting)
... is that it scatters its seeds by explosion, into the remains of a forest fire (which it promotes via its extremely flammable sap and the tinder pile of leaves and shed bark it creates around itself - apparently "in the hope of" getting the fire started B-) ). A row of eucalyptus trees during a fire can become the equivalent of a walking artillery barrage targeting a fuel dump.
So I certainly wouldn't want to compute on a eucalyptus cluster - even if it is a "cloud" floating far away (like over the Berkeley Hills - high enough to be visible from I5 north of Sacramento). I'd worry about it taking out the data center and my data with it and "distributing" it up to the tropopause and onward with the prevailing wind.
As for my laptop, no WAY I'll install any eucalyptus package on that. It's got enough problem with those lithium batteries with the energy density of a hand grenade without adding something more with the energy density of napalm.
= = = =
And I thought Ubuntu had an unfortunate choice of names. Good grief!
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...they're finally getting a new theme? Seriously, of all the things to mention in the summary, you focus on the not-brown? There's a page long rant about cloud computing, about the eucalyptus project, and why the release is named koala. And you mention that, like every release, there's talk of it possibly not being brown?
You must be new to ubuntu.