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The Rise of the Linux-Based Cellphone
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on Tue Sep 18, 2007 04:21 AM
from the doobie-doobie-dooo dept.
from the doobie-doobie-dooo dept.
mrscotty99 writes with a link to a Linux.com article about the rising star that is the Linux-based cellphone. Author Murry Shohat argues that the transformation of the cell into a mini-PC this summer is a landmark opportunity for Linux. Apple's offering and Motorola's US launch of the RAZR2 V8 (a linux-based device) may be heralds of great things to come for a new OS frontier: "In the cell phone market, consumers will pay for content, and corporations need to deliver secure content to applications in the palm of employees' hands. These trends suggest products that are simultaneously more functional and less expensive than a Treo or BlackBerry and more secure than an iPhone. MontaVista Software claims to have deployed Mobilinux on more than 35 million mobile devices worldwide. CEO Tom Kelley says, 'Linux is growing rapidly on mobile devices because of its solid reliability, its great flexibility, and because it accelerates the development cycle.' Vendors using or contemplating the use of Linux for mobile devices unanimously point to the operating system's footprint, memory usage, and fast growing ecosystem of developers producing software for graphics, multimedia, connectivity, and security." Linux.com and Slashdot are both owned by SourceForge.
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The Neo 1973 is freer than anything motorola has. (Score:5, Informative)
- Touchscreen
- WLAN
- completely open
- A-GPS
Re:The Neo 1973 is freer than anything motorola ha (Score:4, Informative)
1. use VoIP from the cellphone (duh!)
2. GPG-encrypt the data stream, without relying on AT&T's proprietary "encryption" which goes directly to whichever government asks for it
3. use the existing GPG web of trust for keys; generate a new key for the phone and sign it with your main key so if the phone is stolen you lose only the phone's secret key
The above makes you imprevious to plain main-in-the-middle snooping. What is left is information whom you talk to.
4. get an account at a company/group of volunteers who provide a number of servers; the more such independent group of this kind the better
5. have the phone connect only to the nearest server of your group; this is all the phone company can find out about you
6. once there, the server will peel the outer onion layer, connecting to the next hop
7. these servers will be usually already connected as conversations can be aggregated into a single connection; if not, random data can be sent through idle links to thwart traffic analysis
8. unless you're paranoid, the next hop will be your interlocutor's privacy company/group. 2 hops should be enough for most cases, but if you value privacy more than latency, toss in full onion routing.
While Tor is WAAAY too slow to allow for usable VoIP, having a network of servers connected with opaque noise-filled pipes should give you decent enough privacy with just two geographically close hops.
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Re:The Neo 1973 is freer than anything motorola ha (Score:5, Interesting)
About ten years ago encryption was much more in vogue than it is now. The geeks who were the elite of the Internet even so late widely had PGP keys and sometimes went to key-signing events. Publishing on public applications of cryptography was vast: O'Reilly had a PGP guide and Bruce Schneier's great Applied Cryptography [amazon.com] appeared. PGPfone and Speakeasy promised to give us secure voice communication.
Now look at what has happened. Today's geeks rarely show interest in GPG, even when they rave about other free software achievements. Figures like Bruce Schneier chose to focus on other aspects of computer security, and O'Reilly doesn't publish anything to show your average computer-literate fellow how to secure his communications. PGPfone was never maintained, and nothing appears to have come to replace it, even in bold new apps like Ekiga. And the web of trust has stagnated because (reliable) key signings are rare.
Your idea of a GPG-capable phone is something I find cool, but sadly encryption no longer captivates people like it once did.
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Especially if some of those hops are routed via bluetooth or WiFi rather than GPRS... (the call might just disappear into a mesh network, well away from telephone wiretaps)
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"We're almost for sure going to use their AR6K
chipset in our next product."
I hope that just means they haven't updated that portion of the site in a while, and not that they still have no clue what the hardware design is.
I see elsewhere that Oct and Nov are set for testing, and late
Re:The Neo 1973 is freer than anything motorola ha (Score:4, Informative)
The end user version is the one named "Phase 2" (GTA02, "Mass Market").
Allong with hardware specs, you'll find there an estimated timeline :
* Sep 20 - GTA02v3 design finalised.
* Oct 20 - GTA02v3 design produced, and shipped to qualified developers.
* Nov 20 - GTA02v3 design verified through testing by developers.
* Dec 10 - GTA02v3 produced in moderate volume
* Dec 20 - GTA02v3 goes on sale
* Dec 25 - GTA02v3 arrives
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Wake me up when openmoko supports CDMA networks. (Score:2, Insightful)
By contrast, I am confident that Motorola WILL release a variant of their phone that works on Sprint's network.
Open source ideals are great and all, but if it doesn't meet my requirements (I'm not going to buy it.
And for the foreseeable future, "Does it work on Sprint's network?" is one of my requirements.
Re:The Neo 1973 is freer but has no wlan (Score:4, Insightful)
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Unfortunately it looks like the schedule has slipped and general availability will be Christmas.
Personally, I'm holding out for a UMTS version, although they've given no indication when this is likely to happen. (I've had enough of the crappness of GPRS to last me a life time).
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http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_GSM [openmoko.org]
4 choices (Score:5, Insightful)
Obviously, you can go with a market leader like Symbian and Nokia's S60 software stack to get something out the door in a hurry.
Alternatively, you can pay a bunch up front to get the hardware working with Linux, but the benefits are a royalty-free OS license.
You could always ask Microsoft for some help, but your fast time to market and full-featureset come at the price of outrageously powerful hardware requirements.
Finally, you can go with BREW, Qualcomm's stripped-down, barebones OS.
Each OS has its benefits and tradeoffs. Linux's benefits are code "ownership" and full source access, not to mention a well-known API and a large pool of developers. The major tradeoff that I've seen is the enormous latency in normal usage. A keypress takes a significantly longer time to process on a Linux phone than on, say, a BREW phone or an MS Smartphone.
There's a lot of growth to come in the cellphone market, so Symbian has a long fight against these up and comers. And there really isn't anywhere for anyone (excluding Symbian) to go but up.
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In comparison, now that hackers have dissected it, the iPhone is a tiny laptop in m
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Now, the FIC NEO1973 will hopefully show the industry how it's done.
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I've been doing all of those things, with the exception of the P2P voice development, on my HTC Universal (Orange M5000) [engadget.com] for nearly two years now- and that was by no means the first device which offered this kind of functionality.
Please, if you're going to credit anyone with opening up the true power of Smartphones don't make it Apple.. any openness of their device is purely accidental, not unlike the Sony PSP, and is likely to be reduced more and more as they patch. With regards to actually promoting e
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iPhone - well, that is clearly a closed system. Any "openness" is a lucky hack.
BREW - ugh...
Linux-on-phone - You would expect it to be free, but with the exception of OpenMoko, it seems like Linux-on-phone tends to be "Tivoized". The quotes in the article summary imply that manufacturers l
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Or there's Nucleus, VxWorks, QNX, one of the several proprietary phone OSs (you'll probably only pick one of these if you're part of the same group that owns the OS)... there are lots of RTOSs out there that are suitable for phones, especially the low-end phones that you wouldn't want to run a heavyweight OS on.
The thing I'm surprised about is that nobody (we hear about) seems to be using BSD. The BSDs are traditionally easier to port than Linux, and have a much friendlier license to commercial use; so wh
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And it has commercial support from several vendors (MontaVista for example) for running on various ARM based CPUs and platforms including those used by the cellphone companies.
BSD based cell phone (Score:2)
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I'm not sure if you're including this in your
The major tradeoff that I've seen is the enormous latency in normal usage. A keypress takes a sigificantly longer
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Sorry, I forgot to add this to my previous post. My Razor has one of the slowest interfaces I've ever seen on a phone, including phones I had five plus years ago. Button presses are often dropped. The user interface is horrible, kludgie, and beyond snail-slow. IIRC, my Razor is running Symbian. My point being, crappy user interfaces which create high latency key presses (or worst of a
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I hate to burst your bubble but Linux typically has lower latency than most other commercial RT OSs. Linux in no way, shape, or form, is considered a high latency beast, save only on the desktop, and that's because it is geared toward throughput, not low latency; which in turn explains why Linux typically stomps on Windows for throughput.
I've not done any phone development but I do RT development. If are experiencing latency issues, I suggest it may
Apple's Offering? (Score:3, Insightful)
By my accounts, Apple has been hostile to the open source community. They take and don't give back. Look at their track record with OSX and not setting up a source repository.
Making iPods intentionally not work with anything but iTunes (which was cracked only days later)? Creating iWork instead of helping the OS X version OpenOffice.org?
Apple would BE Microsoft, and Charman Jobs would be Gates, if they had the option.
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Why wasn't the hash used on the old iPods sufficient? And if it was just to ensure integrity of files stored on the iPod, why not just go ahead and publish how the hash is computed, instead of the community having to reverse engineer it?
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OpenOffice tries to be Office, and word suck.
iWork is similair applications but in a new fresh way, how dare you compare Pages with OO writer?
Just stay with your openoffice in whatever os
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Darwin is Open Source. WebKit has been a great contribution. But they never give back. Get your facts straight first, then think, then post.
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See also Open-source Darwin? Not yet [macnn.com]. My favorite part: "Apple is stonewalling open-sourc
iphone OS is open sourced (Score:2)
Don't forget about Qtopia (Score:5, Insightful)
Other Linux Mobile Phone Manufacturers (Score:4, Informative)
This is the year of the Linux phone! (Score:2)
I wonder how long it will take until Amiga Inc. revives the never released Amiga DE and decide that it's the shit for 2008s mobile phones!
Just make your own, if you're nerd enough (Score:3, Interesting)
Perfect cliche (Score:2)
I want to pay for content too!! (Score:2)
Yeah, where's my Linux Phone, I got spare $ to burn on ringtones and wallpapers.
I have a NEO1973 (OpenMoko) .. (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm looking forward, for example, to having my own answering service onboard with a user-selectable set of recordings to playback (IVR-style application), and some music-making apps are on the horizon as well
Lovely bit of gear; I will definitely upgrade to GTA02 when its available, too.
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Yes that is the phone I want to get. But because I can't try it in the shop I have a question which you may be able to answer: can you carry the OpenMoko around in your pocket, or is it a belt pouch phone? I have seen the dimensions on the web site but it is not the same as holding one in your hand.
PDA (Score:2)
Dan East
*SMACKS FOREHEAD* (Score:3, Funny)
Motorola's US launch of the RAZR2 V8
I could have had a V8!